Post by jayrbenz

Hey Mark, here's mine:

1 Serial number on right side of barrel 10077
2 Mag housing : No Seam Blued
3 Bolt : Type two. late
4 Ejector : Mid/Late Type
5 Recoil : Tube type
6 Trunnion : Chrome
7 Receiver : Uncut
8 Grip : " Made in Japan"
9 Muzzle Nut : Early blued
10 Trunnion screws : Small hex head type
11. Forearm: Early Dark Brown
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Post by kickback

Hi Mark,here are a couple you can add to your info. that i have purchased over the last couple of months :-

1. open barrel,serial no.010910 on r.h.s. of resting bar.
2. overlapped welded mag housing blued.
3. late type bolt
4. centre ejector
5. steel recoil tube
6. black trunnion
7. receiver "uncut"
8. grip "japan"
9. blue steel muzzle nut
10. small trunnion screws

and the other is

1.blocked barrel with no serial no.
2. overlapped blued mag housing
3. late type bolt
4. centre ejector
5. large recoil spring
6. chromed trunnion
7. cut receiver in front of mag housing
8. no japan markings on grip
9. muzzle nut black zinc
10 large trunnion screws.


I think i have done this correctly please excuse any errors.



Kickback

Post by Mark

Cool! Thanks for the information on your MP40's!

The more information that I receive on the MGC MP40's the better and the details that you supply help to determine the production history of the MGC MP40.

It appears so far that MGC produced the MP40 to a certain time in 1970? or so that they either cheapened up the production in an effort to cut costs or? As the serial numbering process stopped and the two-piece recoil spring assy was replaced with the large recoil spring. Where there these changes due to the change in Japanese law(s) or simply, the end of the MP40's production run? I.E. they where using up the last of the parts in stock?

The solid barrels where obviously made after the changes in Japanese law in 1972? If the MGC MP40 was manufactured all the way until 1977 then it might be reasonable to assume that the barrels where made solid in 1972 when they first changed the law(s)

The two piece magazine housings where possibly a cost cutting step or they just wore out the original die set for the one piece magazine housings.
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Post by figaro

Like new condition MGC MP40.
Obviously very late model.
1. No serial number that I can find.
2. Late two piece magazine.
3. Mid to late, still has bolt face.
4. offset ejector.
5. spring recoil, no tube.
6. blued trunion.
7. Seems to be a slot cut behind the mag housing.
8. No Japan marking on trigger guard.
9. Black muzzle nut, completely blocked barrel, not moveable, seems to have some resin blocking muzzle.
10. Black plastic forearm, plastic resting bar?

Overall very light weight, spring slides forward very gently. No firing pin in chamber. mag has mgc markings fake waffen mark.
Very, very clean, but does not feel like real gun for some reason.
*Excuse my movie fliers in the pics, these were taken for Ebay, did not sell will not be relisting it, but I am interested in trading for MP44.
(This one is too nice to screw up using on a film.)
The mark on the plastic is a thumbprint, it looks nasty in the pic, but it rubbed off. Sorry.



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Post by scultzsgt

Hey Mark, here's mine:
I bought this mp40 way back in 1974 and over the years it has seen some abuse(my children played with it). So I decided it was time to put her back the way she was when I bought it. Here are the details on my MP40:
1 Serial number on right side of barrel N03651
2 Mag housing : No Seam Blued
3 Bolt : Type one. early
4 Ejector : Early/Mid Type
5 Recoil : Tube type
6 Trunnion : Mid Blued
7 Receiver : Uncut
8 Grip : no "Japan" or" Made in Japan" stamping
9 Muzzle Nut : Early: Machined, non-threaded pressed on, usually with a blued steel finish (missing lost over the years)
10 Trunnion screws : Small hex head type
11. Forearm: Early Dark Brown
Here are pics of my MP40
before restoring:



after re-blueing:



after replaceing the forestock and pistol grips and making a dummy magazine:


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Post by Mark

Hi and welcome to the forums schultzsgt!

Also, thanks for sharing your pictures and adding your information on your MGC MP40 into the registry! It's especially nice to have an original MGC MP owner add to the information base. I have one of my MGC MP's that I have been adding more authentic details onto to make it look "right" compared to the real MP40's.

On the subject of the MGC MP40's, I think that it is time to show you guys what I think is a great find and a really rare MGC MP40 that I picked up a few months back.



Yep! That's right, Serial number 1000!

This MGC MP40 is almost black in color..

"Made in Japan"

This particular MP isn't perfect and has plenty of scratches on it but hey..

The forearm is in great shape.

Again, the finish is far blacker than any other MGC MP that I have yet seen.

Note the brown color of the forearm.

Theres a little surface rust too..

Interesting bolt face. I have not seen this type before..

Now, here's the specifications on serial number 1000

1. Serial number: on Right Hand Side NO. 1000
2. Magazine housing: No seam, Black
3. Bolt: I have not seen this type of bolt before. Pre type one? (it fully supports the cartridge case without the small weak "tabs" on the feed ribs that bend/break off easily)
4. Ejector: early "blade" type
5. Recoil assy: Tube type
6. Trunnion: Early Chrome
7. Receiver: Early Uncut
8. Grip frame: "Made in Japan" stamped
9. Muzzle nut: Early Machined, pressed on blued.
10. Trunnion screws: Small
11. Forearm: Early Dark Brown
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Post by Doc

Hi Mark

Yes I have one of those bolts in an MP40 and the central mounted ejector too, nice as they are more like the original although I haven`t plucked the courage to fire this one yet .

DOC
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Post by schultzsgt

I'm curious as to why my mgc68 MP40 doesn't have the words "Japan" or "Maded In Japan" stamped onto the trigger guard. Anyone have any ideas? Another question what is it worth now?
Here's a blast from the past this is the ad I took into the hobby shop when I had them order my mp40. If you look close they have the pic of the mp40 mirrored for placement on the ad

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Post by Phil_D

Wow - look at those 1974 prices, That was year I allowed to shoot my grandads SMLE

If you check on the forum the last MGC 68 sold went for £425? ($850) but i know of one that is for sale at £795
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Post by schultzsgt

Well when I ordered my mp40 it cost me $84.00cdn and that included the sales tax and the shipping to the hobby shop. Another one of those "If we only knew then!!"

Post by Claymore

2 more for you

1. No 17418
2. chrome trunnion
3. offset ejector
4. mag housing overlapped
5. bolt late type offset
6. steel tube
7. receiver cut
8. Japan on grip
9. small trunnion screws
10. blue nut

1. No 4968
2. chrome trunnion
3. offset ejector
4. mag housing overlap
5. bolt late type offset
6. steel tube
7. receiver not cut
8. made in Japan on grip
9. small trunnion screws
10. blue nut

Post by Doc

I was looking at my nuts the other day (as you do) and is this what you were talking about Mark with ref to early and late Muzzle nuts ?



Left one is blued but with very shallow grooves, middle is gold colour average machined grooves but the right one has lovely deep grooves and is blued .

all are push on

DOC
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Post by Mark

Yes, actually they are what I was referring to in my description of the muzzle nut(s) that MGC had made for their MP40 during it's production run. The knurling depth as well as the machining finish changes over the production span. The colors of the applied blue finish vary as well due to either the steel used or the cleaning process used prior to the bluing solution bath. The gold colored muzzle nuts that I have found over the years are mostly on the late production examples. Also, the gold finish is usually really bright appearing on the example that I have inspected. Sometimes, the gold finish resembles zinc dichromate. Lot's to learn about these "toys" eh?
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Post by lasse47

1.0726
2.chrome
3.open barrel
4.mag housing no weld
5.bolt early type
6.small hex
7.made in japan
8.blue nut
9.whit original ww2 sling
Cheers Lasse

Post by lasse47

mark my bolt is wierd is not like that one u have!
And it dosent have that pigup from mag housing like ours...
have taken a lok at the pics and catalog pics and its not like them mine mgc!???
Cheers Lasse