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PostSubject: SHOEI MP40   Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:23 pm

SHOEI company will produce a MP40 model in the future.
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PostSubject: Re: SHOEI MP40   Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:17 pm

Now that is a must have for me Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy ,any idea on a release date?

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PostSubject: Re: SHOEI MP40   Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:25 pm

This will be after completion of production of MG42 Airsoft (after completion of FG42).
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PostSubject: Re: SHOEI MP40   Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:42 pm

Will it be a dummy or firing model Question
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PostSubject: Re: SHOEI MP40   Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:31 am

This MP40 will be of two types: dummy version and fire cap model.
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PostSubject: Re: SHOEI MP40   Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:19 am

This sounds exciting ... Shoei build quality is superb without a doubt. I wonder, in reality, how much better a cap firing Shoei MP40 could be compared to an MGC version

Even though MGC MP40s haven't been produced for years they're still around. They're expensive, but I'll bet Shoei's will be much dearer.

It'll be interesting to see one... I can't wait...

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PostSubject: Re: SHOEI MP40   Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:42 am

The price on ΜΠ40 will be about 1000 USD or even less Smile
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PostSubject: Re: SHOEI MP40   Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:52 pm

That's a good news, indeed!

I think that previous sales must have been good (MP44 is sold out afaik) for Shoei to decide trying another model. It is a good sign :-) MP40 is also very popular among reconstructors.
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PostSubject: Re: SHOEI MP40   Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:55 pm

hmmm... whilst any "new" model must be exciting and Shoei do make exceedingly good guns ..it would be an odd choice to make an MP40 in my humble opinion.

There are already countless "other" MP40s out there ( from MGC to Marushin to Denix ) so the market must be smaller than their MP44 and FG42s

If anywhere near $1000 USD then this is going to narrow the field even more as you could get two or three of the others for this

Shoei are not known for their superlative firing and its a lot of money for a dummy model.

I dont doubt it would be super accurate and detailed but it would make more sense to make something that was a bit more scarce and in higher demand.

dont ask me what .......but Id like to see a metal grease gun ( because the hudson one is a bit poo ) before another MP40

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PostSubject: Re: SHOEI MP40   Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:34 pm

I think they are trying to target a different (than Denix, airsoft) market here, the one they are selling to right now. People buying Shoei replicas buy them for quality and a certain uniqueness. Most people go for cheaper replicas, as they are good enough for what they want.

So far the choice for MP40 replica is:
- MGC: firing, steel, but very rare, very expensive, spare parts are not easy to get
- Nakata: firing, metal, very rare, expensive, spare parts not easy to get
- Marushin: firing, metal, quite rare, expensive, spare parts common with ABS version (?)
- Marushin: firing, ABS, mid-priced, available, as assembled or kit versions
- Denix: dummy, metal, cheap, inaccurate and without some working parts
- TOP, SRC, AGM: airsoft, metal, cheap, not so accurate
- springers: airsoft, plastic, extremely cheap and very inaccurate.

All firing metal ones were made in 60's and 70's, I think.
I would say that Shoei MP40 would target MGC/Nakata/metal Marushin.

PS: interesting enough this is MP40's Modelgun Forum ;-)

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PostSubject: Re: SHOEI MP40   Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:37 pm

For a long time already metal models of MP40 from MGC and Marushin are not manufactured.
The market of this model from SHOEI will be same (or even more) as models of MP44 and FG42.
I hope to get museum quality of MP40 model for the price in 1000 USD.
This model will have stamps, which are very important for collectors
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PostSubject: Re: SHOEI MP40   Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:59 am

The people I know that bought FG42,Mkb and MP44 ( and I know quite a few ) bought them because there is no alternative (apart from the MP44 and good deactivated ones of these are now £2000 +)

I really dont see any of these guys buying a $1000 MP40 model.

Dont get me wrong guys ...I LOVE the MP40 which is why I have three MGCs , one MP38 BF, a Nakata a TRC , an Asahi and two Marushins (one airsoft )

....but personally I dont think I could justify $1000 on another model.

oh and one Marushin Jnr MP40 Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: SHOEI MP40   Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:31 am

How are your models look like real MP40 in size, weight, design, stamps,... ?
In the Russian Federation now I can buy MP 38 (museum quality) made of metal for 2200 USD
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PostSubject: Re: SHOEI MP40   Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:31 am

DOC wrote:
The people I know that bought FG42,Mkb and MP44 ( and I know quite a few ) bought them because there is no alternative

So for MP40 they bought a Denix, one of airsoft models, or another replica?

As you already have MGCs and Nakata to satisfy your MP40 needs, I agree that another MP40 for 1000$ might be a bit of overkill. I still think that there should be a market for Shoei-quality MP40, even at that price mark. However you could rent MP40s for film productions and make them earn money for a Shoei brother :-)

PS: didn't know about TRC and Asahi making MP40, thanks for update! I also found that Marushin manufactured airsoft version, probably from the same molds. What is "BF"? blank-firer, or a company name?
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PostSubject: Re: SHOEI MP40   Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:08 am

I'd agree with Doc, one of my personal favourites is the MP38/40, it always has been since I was a kid.
I have an MGC68 MP40, 2 X Marushin abs MP40s, an Airsoft GBB Marushin MP40 and a Marushin MP41.
I couldn't see myself justifying a $1000 on a Shoei version. I just don't need another MP40

A Shoei MP38 on the other hand, could be tempting. If they produced the '38 to their usual exacting standards, complete with accurate stamps... it'd be VERY tempting.

But even so, MGCUK produce a blank firing MP38... Yes it's much more expensive than $1000, they were planning on producing a PFC '38 which would suit my requirements fully. Given the choice between a dummy and a firing version, I'd go the firing route myself.

A metal Grease Gun would indeed be a highly desireable model, as would a Type 100 Japanese SMG.

I have recently bought a Shoei MP44, which is a beautifully made model, and a fabulous looking gun. It is easily the most expensive model gun I've bought, but, as Doc said, there is no other serious choice. I could've bought a much cheaper Chinese made AGM electric Airsoft MP44 BUT I personally don't find electric driven guns appealing... they're just not realistic enough.
Shoei quality is outstanding, no doubt, but is there room in the market for another MP40 and one priced at $1000

PPU, who produces/supplies those full metal MP38s in your photograph please I wasn't aware anyone else made the '38 alongside MGCUK.

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