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PostSubject: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:39 am


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PostSubject: Re: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:20 pm

Hello.
It is possible to reproduce it with modelgun by three methods though it is
Muzzle Flash.

I will instruct in the simple expedient.

Prepared thing
CP-Cartridge、Cap, ultra thin styrene board, and magnesium powder

Cap and inner are put in CP-Cartridge and the magnesium powder of a small
amount competes on inner as usual.
If the powder is put too much at this time, it becomes a misfire.
And, the lid is firmly done with the ultra thin styrene board clipped to yen
of 7mm at the end and completion.
Good Muzzle Flash goes out because pressure hangs in this ultra thin styrene
board. 



 
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PostSubject: Re: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:51 pm

Like this?

I think it is possible that you took this photo originally and sent it to one of the forum's members Question Very Happy
I'm sure your video of the CQB M4 resulted in lots of e-mails asking about flash Wink

I have tried using Magnesium powder, very finely ground, without much success. The Mg in this photo looks much bigger, has it been shaved from a block of Fire Starter Magnesium?

How thick is the styrene you use please wataru?

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:18 pm

It is suitable in the method of the image.
To put out red to the flash, the cutting down powder of Tahonootsts
is put for me.

It is a little different for M4 method.
The bolt of the main body of M4 is processed to a central fire.

The motor tool is used when cutting down from the block of Fire Starter
Magnesium.

I think that the styrene board is the same thickness.
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PostSubject: Re: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:50 pm

Wow that looks fantastic Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:17 pm

Here's more of the CQB M4 ...


Please forgive me Wataru but what is meant by Tahonootsts please?

Some of the guys here have successfully achieved good flash from short barrel pistols but getting flash from longer guns has, apart from shotgns, been impossible.
You've achieved it with your CQB M4 wih style and I'm very interested to learn more about your modifications to the Bolt and Centre Fire systems. These sound very interesting.

I have been longing for muzzle flash from my MP40 and M3A1 Grease Gun but without any success.

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Fri Oct 10, 2008 2:58 pm

Tahonootsts is a cylinder by which the car ignites the state of
emergency.
Do you understand from such an explanation?

The flash of M4 is impossible in cap1 piece.
To improve the gas omission apart from the Centre Fire system
The metallization of the chamber is necessary.
If the chamber is not metallized if it makes it to the Centre Fire
system, the cartridge cannot be maintained.
When you are interested in the Centre Fire system of M4, the image is
contributed!

Always I am sorry by poor English.
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PostSubject: Re: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:21 pm

Please do not apologise for any lack of English wataru Exclamation Very Happy I envy your ability to write in English, I wish I had the same ability with Japanese Exclamation

Tahonoots is a cylinder by which the car ignites the state of emergency ... Would this be a warning light in a motor car's instruments? Could there be a red powder inside a lightbulb of some sort you mix with magnesium Question

The modifications to your M4 sound very interesting and complex.

So both the Cartridge and the Detonator Chamber are heavily modified Question Does it now operate more like a real gun Question
Is the cartridge now struck from the "primer" end to allow all the gases and flames out through an open barrel Question

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:55 pm

Hello.
Tahonootsts is this the supporter uses in the soccer match. Please
cut down and mix it with magnesium.


It is a bolt head of M4.

The bolt head remodels it to Centre Fire.
And, it is fixed to movable with the screw back and forth.

The place where this processing is done in Japan is only one company
now.

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:48 am

So Tahonoots is a type of signal Flare then Exclamation I think it'll be like the type used by sailors and yachtsmen as an emergency signal Question

Mixing a small amount of the powder with Mg gives that orange - red colour then Very Happy

I really need to try this...

Your M4 now has a Centre Fire Bolt head which I'm guessing strikes the cartridge "primer" in it's centre Question
You suggested earlier that the chamber is heavily modified too... could you share that with us too please Question

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:07 am

Hello.
Bolt head & firing pin becomes such feeling.

The thing of the image maintains the cartridge with firing pin though it is a
chamber.

My chamber is maintaining the cartridge with built-in a stainless
pipe in the chamber now.
The image is contributed later.

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:52 pm

Thank you Wataru, I'm pretty sure all our M4 and M16 series owners will be studying your images with interest Very Happy

Do you operate the machine tools yourself, designing and making all your owns parts Question

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:28 am

Hello.

When it can help the M4&M16 user, it is glad.
 
As such, there is power when the Centre Fire processing is given even
if Muzzle Flash is few.
Muzzle Flash of animation below is also possible as long as the knack
is gripped.

In addition, my M4 will improve the version in the future.
For instance, 30rd-mag for a real gun can be used.

It processes it by using the milling machine in Waca.
Parts with a difficult production are subcontracts.

Please look at the Web site of me who doesn't do everyone.
http://vickers-cal45.jugem.jp/


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PostSubject: Re: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:38 am

Please be aware that the devices referred to are 'road flares', which come as standard in the glove boxes of new Japanese cars. They are used in the same way as in the US, when you break down at night etc, you can twist and ignite one end and lay them on the ground. Please do NOT attempt to deconstruct a marine signal/distress flare - these are quite different in nature and contain an explosive launching/bursting charge.

I once bought some road flares from ebay to take camping in case of emergency.

Stay safe!
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PostSubject: Re: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:44 pm

GZ22 wrote:
Please be aware that the devices referred to are 'road flares', which come as standard in the glove boxes of new Japanese cars. They are used in the same way as in the US, when you break down at night etc, you can twist and ignite one end and lay them on the ground. Please do NOT attempt to deconstruct a marine signal/distress flare - these are quite different in nature and contain an explosive launching/bursting charge.

I once bought some road flares from ebay to take camping in case of emergency.

Stay safe!

Thanks for the good advice GZ22!

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:30 am

It is my comment, there is an improper part, and ?.
If you should delete the comment, it makes it like that.
I am sorry if feelings were impaired.
It controls it voluntarily for a while.

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:09 pm

No problem at all wataru Wink

Meanings are sometimes lost in translation from one language to another so things can be unclear or confusing sometimes.
I actually referred to "distress flares" because I'd never seen the "Road flares" before.

My own ignorance confused things here, so please do not worry Very Happy .

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:29 am

We wish to express our gratitude for the message.
It prays for the development of the forum of the future.

・・・I really appreciate it.

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PostSubject: Re: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:20 am


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PostSubject: Re: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:52 pm

Thank you Cerwyn.

The video was seen. Good Muzzle Flash has gone out.
I also have taken a picture by modelgun love person's gathering on
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PostSubject: Re: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:54 pm


Another impressive video from youtube... Japanese enthusiast MrModelgun has produced several superb videos

I suspect that Firing sound and Muzzle Flash have been digitally enhanced on this video, but if not, I'd like to learn how he's created such realistic effects





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0coUMMi41BA&feature=sub
Having had some interesting discussions with MrModelgun, I'm assured that the muzzle flash achieved in this video is indeed genuine, not digitally enhanced.
A "secret" mix of magnesium powder and some other compond is used. Cartridges are MGC P220.
I can only suppose that a powder used in flares carried in all Japanese cars is used with Magnesium. This flare was first discussed by forum member wataru some time ago. Quite how the powder is mixed and loaded into the cartridge is unclear at the moment.
I have just aquired a small quantity of drilled cartridge pistons, which are the same thickness as MGC types. Drilled in the same fashion as Hudson pistons, these allow more gas and smoke to vent out. I've seen good results today using Magnesium powder and MG caps loaded into P220 and fired in my WaShan M9 Dolphin.
Now I know that works, I'll try my Stirling next.



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PostSubject: Re: Muzzle Flash ... Again!   Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:54 pm

Another impressive video from youtube... Japanese enthusiast MrModelgun has produced several superb videos

I suspect that Firing sound and Muzzle Flash have been digitally enhanced on this video, but if not, I'd like to learn how he's created such realistic effects






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0coUMMi41BA&feature=sub


Having had some interesting discussions with MrModelgun, I'm assured that the muzzle flash achieved in this video is indeed genuine, not digitally enhanced.
A "secret" mix of magnesium powder and some other compond is used. Cartridges are MGC P220.
I can only suppose that a powder used in flares carried in all Japanese cars is used with Magnesium. This flare was first discussed by forum member wataru some time ago. Quite how the powder is mixed and loaded into the cartridge is unclear at the moment.
I have just aquired a small quantity of drilled cartridge pistons, which are the same thickness as MGC types. Drilled in the same fashion as Hudson pistons, these allow more gas and smoke to vent out. I've seen good results today using Magnesium powder and MG caps loaded into P220 and fired in my WaShan M9 Dolphin.
Now I know that works, I'll try my Stirling next.




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