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PostSubject: MGC trommel magazine for the P08   Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:54 pm

Someone knows something about MGC trommel magazine for the P08?
How many rounds are loaded into this magazine?
I know that the original Luger trommel magazine is for 32 rounds.

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PostSubject: Re: MGC trommel magazine for the P08   Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:20 pm

Hi PPU

I don't think I've ever seen an MGC Trommel mag for their Luger before, that is certainly an interesting one!

Our more knowledgable members should be able to tell us something about it hopefully.

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PostSubject: Re: MGC trommel magazine for the P08   Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:35 pm

I have already answered. It is possible to load 6 or 7 rounds into this magazine.
There is a very rare trommel magazin for 32 rounds. MGC has made few about 40 years ago.



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PostSubject: Re: MGC trommel magazine for the P08   Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:46 pm

Standard pistol magazines for MGC Lugers hold 7 rds. So is the Drum section of your Trommel mag' a "dummy" type without working internals
I'm looking forwards to learning more about this magazine...

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PostSubject: Re: MGC trommel magazine for the P08   Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:16 pm

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PostSubject: Re: MGC trommel magazine for the P08   Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:21 pm

There it is, MGC and 68 markings

Where did you find this magazine PPU You certainly appear to have access to a vast range of both replica and converted blank firing weapons.
Looks like one impressive collection

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PostSubject: Re: MGC trommel magazine for the P08   Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:42 pm

I found this magazine at Yahoo auction in Japan and wanted to buy it
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PostSubject: Re: MGC trommel magazine for the P08   Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:14 am

I saw one in which someone sacrificed a Tanaka Gas Snail Mag by cutting the "clip part" away and stick it together with the MGC clip - of course it is a dummy for cosmetic purpose only...
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PostSubject: Re: MGC trommel magazine for the P08   Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:44 pm

The only reference I've found so far to an MGC produced Snail Drum was in an American Auction House listing amongst hundreds of Militaria "lots" (auction now long since closed unfortunately)

There wasn't much information there, apart from its description as a Luger Trommel Magazine, produced by Japanese maker MGC in 1968. No drum internals, slight surface rust pitting...

Reading through articles about the Luger's history, one wrote that the Artillery version was able to accept the Snail Drum mag from Bergmann's MP18 which might explain why such a strange looking mag' was ever fitted into a pistol( )

I don't know which modelguns MGC produced in the 1960s, the last model Lugers they made used a cartridge about 8mm diameter, not 9mm so I'm all the more interested to know if PPUs MGC Trommel is built for 9mm cartridges or otherwise.
Would a Luger made back then be a Dummy cartridge type or use Open type cartridges

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PostSubject: Re: MGC trommel magazine for the P08   Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:54 pm

Cerwyn wrote:

Reading through articles about the Luger's history, one wrote that the Artillery version was able to accept the Snail Drum mag from Bergmann's MP18 which might explain why such a strange looking mag' was ever fitted into a pistol
I think it was actually the opposite. Original snail drum was made for Luger (1908), and it was already in use by the Army.

When MP18 was developed (1918), Bergmann wanted to provide "stick" type magazines, but the Army insisted to share common magazine with Luger, as it would make their life easier - investment protection. Bergmann developed MP18 with a fixed attachment for snail drums. It was not convenient - that attachment was sticking out of MP and snail drums with their strange shape were still difficult to transport.
For later series of MP18, and for MP28, it was decided to go back to original stick magazine. CAW MP18 modelgun has a socket for stick magazines only.

I will try to find in which of my books I originally read about that.
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PostSubject: Re: MGC trommel magazine for the P08   Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:32 pm

smootik wrote:
Cerwyn wrote:

Reading through articles about the Luger's history, one wrote that the Artillery version was able to accept the Snail Drum mag from Bergmann's MP18 which might explain why such a strange looking mag' was ever fitted into a pistol(

I think it was actually the opposite. Original snail drum was made for Luger (1908), and it was already in use by the Army.

When MP18 was developed (1918), Bergmann wanted to provide "stick" type magazines, but the Army insisted to share common magazine with Luger, as it would make their life easier - investment protection. Bergmann developed MP18 with a fixed attachment for snail drums. It was not convenient - that attachment was sticking out of MP and snail drums with their strange shape were still difficult to transport.
For later series of MP18, and for MP28, it was decided to go back to original stick magazine. CAW MP18 modelgun has a socket for stick magazines only.

I will try to find in which of my books I originally read about that.


Thanks for the correction smootik
Have you seen one of these MGC examples before

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PostSubject: Re: MGC trommel magazine for the P08   Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:30 pm

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Thanks for the correction smootik
Have you seen one of these MGC examples before
Never before, it's the first one! It is a bit like finding new things hidden at attic :-)
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PostSubject: Re: MGC trommel magazine for the P08   Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:20 pm

If only my attic turned up treasures like this

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PostSubject: Re: MGC trommel magazine for the P08   Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:13 pm

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PostSubject: Re: MGC trommel magazine for the P08   Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:48 pm

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