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PostSubject: CAW Old model Army percussion revolver   Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:59 pm

Hello guys,

Here is the review of a very beautiful revolver : the western old model army !



To begin, i have to say i'm french so be forgiving with me please, it's my first review too... Very Happy




1 / The box

Here is the box made by CAW:





Let's go ! When you open the box you have, if i can say, the minimum :

- The revolver
- The manual
- A key
- 12 littles caps to put on the 5mm cap
That's all!




The manual seem to be good but the japenese is not my hobby so watching the pictures is the only solution.
(I have put the manual in the "modelgun instruction" you will be see over there)




2 / The revolver

First, i have to say it's really a beautiful model gun, it's better a really beautiful "collector" gun. Yes i don't know if I have the courage to try it with a cap, i'm afraid to get it dirty Smile

Look at the grip in real wood cyclops










3 / How it works?

Ok first i have to say i'm going to explain what I have understand. There is something i haven't understand yet.

Well we must to remove the cylinder :

Pull this part to the front of the gun



pull the hammer in first position like that


Then push cylinder outside by right side

Ok the cylinder is out and ready to be charged. You can put a 5mm cap and recover by a little gold cap. I tell again it seems to be like that because i have not 5mm cap at this moment (i try to find 5mm somewhere...)



So you can replace the cylinder.

Pull the hammer in the second position like that and you are ready to fire .




Now, there is another thing but this is it i don't understand :
You can push down this part of revolver :


But i don't really know what is the utility !!! The manual is not very clear Very Happy Very Happy
So if someone know, he can help me.


4 / After fire

You can unscrew the "rounds" on the barrel to clean your bcylinder with the key in the box.



I don't know the utility of the other side of the key , this one :



Again, if someone knows, i will happy to learn.



It's time to conclude and i must say i'm really happy with this model gun. Ok i don't try to fire yet but i love this revolver.
I'll try to update this review when I will find 5mm caps.

Bye and see you Wink



Another photo to show the size of the gun :








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PostSubject: Re: CAW Old model Army percussion revolver   Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:12 pm

Some nice images there.

This was known as a cap and ball revolver ( pre one piece bullet ) so the cap part you know about , the job of the handle ( called ramrod ) is to correctly seat and seal the lead ball ( projectile ) after the black powder has been poured into the chamber.
The lead ball would be a tight fit in order for the powder to build up enough pressure to fire it properly and the ramrod was needed to achieve this.

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PostSubject: Re: CAW Old model Army percussion revolver   Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:19 pm

Nice review and great pictures!
Looking forward to see your next ones, too :-)
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PostSubject: Re: CAW Old model Army percussion revolver   Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:02 pm

Excellent work! 'sunny'

It is a very nice revolver.
I was thinking before about buying one... your review makes me think more strongly about doing so!

A bientot, mon ami 'Very Happy'

Kiwigunner

PS Your English is also excellent! Just a minor detail: in English the term for the part you describe as the "barrel" is called the "cylinder" - but we understand what you meant ok! The barrel is the long tube you point at your target, and the bullet would exit in a real gun......'study'
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PostSubject: Re: CAW Old model Army percussion revolver   Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:32 am

Hello,

Thanks for your comments, it is hopeful.

Kiwigunner, i have changed the "barrel" to "cylinder". I don't understand, i knew the barrel and I don't know why I used it...

Anyway, i have a Marushin M9 too but I don't think doing a review because it is really "classical". I'm going to receive a HWS colt SAA model gun kit, the review will be here soon Smile.
After that, i think to stop model gun because it becomes impossible to find caps, and without caps it's not very funny...


PS: I rezized photos because I think there are too bigs, I add some photos too.
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PostSubject: Re: CAW Old model Army percussion revolver   Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:26 pm

monsieur,

Yours is old model army. The reason a pin hold cylinder, can slide forward is to take off the cylinder without moving loading level downward. I have new model army from CAW, "new" does not have this feature so that every time I remove the cylinder, I need to move the loader downwards.

Don't worry about the instruction, that doesn't write about something you need to really pay attention.
You may notice a grip screw collar has bit of spike shape, this is not collar to idle when you tighten a grip screw, very detail oriented make by CAW. Also, firing nipples sits in slight radial fashion.

I know this model is not cheap, but it really values for the money, that is why I bought one for me. CAW is planning to release Colt 1860 navy sometime this year.

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PostSubject: Re: CAW Old model Army percussion revolver   Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:45 pm

Hi Shazhib,

So you have a new model army, lucky man, I wanted one but I was too late to order and the stock was out Crying or Very sad
Anyway, Thanks for your help to understand my revolver (even I haven't unerstand all, like" Also, firing nipples sits in slight radial fashion").
In my case, I think i'm goint to buy a CAW Colt Navy 51, I like it too Smile (more than 1860).

Merci et à bientôt les amis Wink

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PostSubject: Re: CAW Old model Army percussion revolver   Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:33 pm

"Radial fashion" - I think this means that nipples are not parallel to cylinder (like cartridges in revolver), but they are slightly skewed (bascules) toward outside. This is visible in one of your pictures:
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PostSubject: Re: CAW Old model Army percussion revolver   Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:46 pm

AH ok !!

Thanks Smootik I understand now Smile

It's ok now .

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PostSubject: Re: CAW Old model Army percussion revolver   Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:03 pm

Good!

Seems, the things are sort out.
If you need new model army or 51 navy you cannot find anywhere, let me know.
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PostSubject: Re: CAW Old model Army percussion revolver   Mon May 23, 2011 11:32 pm

Inspired by your review I took the opportunity soon afterwards to buy an early MGC 1851 Navy Colt! 'sunny'


Had to review it straight away! of course! 'lol!'
http://mp40modelguns.forumotion.net/t2967-review-of-the-mgc-1851-navy-colt-modelgun

I prefer metal over ABS plastic or HW plastic - but don't know what other METAL percussion revolvers are still available.
Back in the 60's and 70'swhen they were first marketed, percussion replicas didn't become as popular as the cartridge replicas.
But I'd love to get a metal version of your gun if there is one!

Thanks again for the review! 'cheers'
Kiwigunner



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PostSubject: Re: CAW Old model Army percussion revolver   Tue May 24, 2011 3:12 pm

That is nice one Kiwigunner.

CAW navy 51 has more detailed shape (of course, it was made far more recent than MGC), feeling of solidness of metal gun always surpass plastic gun no matter how other aspect is better.

I wish I can have one here if it were legal.

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PostSubject: Re: CAW Old model Army percussion revolver   Tue May 24, 2011 3:19 pm

You're right Shazhib, the CAW is more detailed but, like I say to Kiwi, my CAW has the barrel scratched by the little part which locks the barrel.
Do you know if is the same thing for the Colt navy ??

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PostSubject: Re: CAW Old model Army percussion revolver   Wed May 25, 2011 12:29 pm


Momocampo: I wouldn't worry - it happens to real guns, as you can see in this photo! 'Arrow'




and Shazib: thanks for complimenting the Navy Colt. Arigatou gozaimasu.

I wonder if someone will make percussion replicas once again??'Question'
In New Zealand you can buy real antique percussion revolvers without a licence: A Navy Colt costs NZ$1200 - $2000 !!

A modern copy you can buy for NZ$500 BUT you need a special licence and have to belong to a pistol club where it will be stored in a steel safe.

I believe the reason is a real antique will explode and kill you if you fire it 'Mad'
(the old steel is not as good as modern steel) - so I might try to by a cheap antique one day 'sunny'

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