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PostSubject: Wa shan Beretta M84 FULL METAL black brand new available here   Wed May 11, 2011 11:10 am

Hello,

Just an information, if you are interested by this model gun, go to uncompany website (www.uncompany.com, other guns section and wa shan).
The price is 238 USD without shipping fees.

I might be interested but since my Wa shan Glock which is a real crap, I stop this brand Smile

See you

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PostSubject: Re: Wa shan Beretta M84 FULL METAL black brand new available here   Thu May 12, 2011 5:30 am

However - this Wa Shan M84 is generally a much better performer than the G17 (but of course it depends on the QC as well)...if you started off with this M84 then you might not be so disappointed with Wa Shan Wink ...
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PostSubject: Re: Wa shan Beretta M84 FULL METAL black brand new available here   Thu May 12, 2011 9:16 am

Ok Jim, I believe you but sorry I can't retry now Smile
Maybe one day, I decide to take a M9 but nothing is sure...

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PostSubject: Re: Wa shan Beretta M84 FULL METAL black brand new available here   Thu May 12, 2011 10:45 am

Momocampo wrote:
Ok Jim, I believe you but sorry I can't retry now Smile
Maybe one day, I decide to take a M9 but nothing is sure...

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WaShan's M9 Dolphin really is a great modelgun in my experience. If WaShan/HwaSan/Y.T.Corp are still supplying them with metal barrels and firing blocks and, as Jim says the factory's Quality Control is still good, it should still be a good modelgun.
It's such a pity your Glock proved so dissapointing. I can understand your apprehension about buying another though after such a miserable experience first time around.

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PostSubject: Re: Wa shan Beretta M84 FULL METAL black brand new available here   Thu May 12, 2011 11:09 am

You're right Cerwyn, I have a serious apprehension.
The Wa shan model gun are quite expansive too, so if I retry and I receive a bad model, I will be really sad.
So for the moment, I wait.

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PostSubject: Re: Wa shan Beretta M84 FULL METAL black brand new available here   Fri May 13, 2011 7:45 am

It can be said that Wa Shan need more skills in order to copy (or to replicate) Tanaka or even Glock's relatively sophisticated "non-hammer" firing system - that's why Wa Shan's simpler M9 & M84 can run smooth...

Tanaka's versions have its own problems as well but since they're built in plastic so some glitches had been avoided (e.g. lighter plastic slides for smooth firing actions) Wink ...

Understand how you feel Momocampo Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Wa shan Beretta M84 FULL METAL black brand new available here   Fri May 13, 2011 10:00 am

It's strange, I don't know why I feel you are together to push me to buy another Wa shan model gun, I'm wrong? Smile
Because of you, I'm trying to buy some airsoft pistols I have to have money for this M9....Are you proud? lol

Just a question, the Wa shan M9 can use ksc luger 9mm cartridges too? (if I sand them).

You will know when I will order this wa shan M9....I'm weak...

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PostSubject: Re: Wa shan Beretta M84 FULL METAL black brand new available here   Fri May 13, 2011 10:30 am

Don't buy it :-)

Get a model from the "review requested" list ;-)
http://mp40modelguns.forumotion.net/t2207-review-requests
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PostSubject: Re: Wa shan Beretta M84 FULL METAL black brand new available here   Fri May 13, 2011 10:45 am

Ok Smootik but why don't buy it??
I have seen your link but where is your "request list"? Wh shan M9 isn't a good model gun?
Can you be more clear please?

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PostSubject: Re: Wa shan Beretta M84 FULL METAL black brand new available here   Fri May 13, 2011 2:01 pm

Hi Momo'

I'm sure smootik will confirm this, and I certainly don't wish to "put words in his mouth", but smootik is joking with you Wink
Humour is often difficult to make itself understood when written or read in different languages.

I believe he's suggesting you buy one of the modelguns listed in his Review Request List so you can write one of your superb reviews for us all to enjoy Laughing see here:

smootik wrote:
I'd love to see reviews of: Tanaka H&K USP, MGC H&K VP70, Marushin CZ75, TT-33 (Hudson or WaShan) as well as small Colts: .32 and .25.

Compiled list of requests:

  • MGC H&K VP70
  • Marushin Cz75
  • any TT-33
  • Colt .32
  • Colt .25
  • any revolvers
  • Marushin Beretta 92FS kit assembly
  • MGC Sig P220
  • Tanaka Glock 18
  • Shoei MP44
  • Shoei FG42
  • any Colt 1911 (for the 100th anniversary)


The following requests are already done:


As for WaShan's Beretta M9, I am very happy and impressed with mine Very Happy It's been an excellent firing model, feels great, is heavy, makes the right metallc noises when racking the slide etc.
It did suffer from a weak selector switch screw thread, which IS common on this model. It was repaired by drilling out the damaged threaded hole, pressing a steel insert in to plug the hole, re-drilling and tapping a new thread to make a much stronger fixing point for a longer screw.
Using MGC P220 cartridges, it's one of the very few modelguns that'll fire 5 or 6 magazines in Full Auto, one after the other , without stoppages.

It will fire KSC 9mm cartridges, but only after sanding them down to reduce length. They're a little too long to fit in the magazine otherwise.

I bought mine privately, as a used model. They were relatively cheap to buy then, a few years ago, but they have increased in price a lot recently. They aren't cheap anymore that's for sure. Which makes your Glock such a big dissapointment.
If the M9s that WaShan/HwaSan/Y.T.Corp make now are as good as mine, I'd recommend it to anyone Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Wa shan Beretta M84 FULL METAL black brand new available here   Fri May 13, 2011 2:41 pm

Ok thanks to you Cerwyn !
I didn't understand the Smootik's joke, sorry, it's true it's difficult to see the humor with another language.
Ok Smootik, with Cerwyn's help, I have receive the message, you will have others reviews soon Smile

If KSC luger 9mm can be use in Wa shan M9, maybe I will buy one, I will see. It's a shame that MGC p220 are not available.

For the moment, I have to sell some airsoft guns to have money for the M9.

See you Wink

PS: In the list, I think I have make a review for Marushin M92 kit Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Wa shan Beretta M84 FULL METAL black brand new available here   Fri May 13, 2011 3:00 pm

It was a joke :-) Sorry if I was not clear enough.
As you make many of nice reviews, I thought to promote "wanted" list ;-)

I do not have a WaShan M9, but M84 that I have is fairly nice. I am very satisfied with it so far:
http://mp40modelguns.forumotion.net/t1900-wa-shan-beretta-m84-full-metal

You are right that you reviewed Marushin kit. One on "wanted" list was for step-by-step assembly instructions that lowlight has volunteered. As often happens in this hobby other things kept him away, but hopefully this will be done over this summer :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Wa shan Beretta M84 FULL METAL black brand new available here   Fri May 13, 2011 3:11 pm

No problem Smootik.

If you want, I can do a review about M9 Marushin Kit. For that, I just have to dissassemble one of my M9 and re assemble it with taking photos: simple.
The only problem for this at this moment, is the time. For now, I don't have enough time to do a good review. My time is for my children...
Anyway, You can trust me, I can do it if you want.

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PostSubject: Re: Wa shan Beretta M84 FULL METAL black brand new available here   Fri May 13, 2011 3:59 pm

It must be said that this hobby of ours can be, and is shared between us on almost every continent. Even though language can sometimes be a little difficult to understand fully, there are no other barriers between us Modelgun owners.

It's often been said this Forum is easily one of the most friendly and helpful on the 'Net. It's great to be a member of it Very Happy It's even better to have new members join and contribute regularly, posting superb reviews and photos. Enthusiasm like that is infectious Very Happy

It's about time I got myself "into gear" and reviewed some of my collection Embarassed I've a list of Articles, Strip Down Guides and Reviews as long as my arm to write...

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