Walther P38

Hi,
i have the opportunity to buy an old p38.
Do you know this model ? (it is in zamac)
Is it a good model gun ?

There is a strange screw, it doesn't exist on the original ?

Thanks for yours answers.
Philippe

Bon Soir Phillipe!

This P38 looks like a Denix version - and although it is difficult to see in the photos, it might have a number 2637.
The magazine is not normally removable.

I had a Denix P38 once and sold it quickly because the Japanese models are much better quality and realism.
I now have both an ABS Marushin versions and an all metal MGC version (dummy).

Cheers,
John

PS and Non! the screw does not exists on the original

Hi
Could also be an old metal Marushin one, look the same as the Denix from this side with only a few differences.
Marushin one has the word japan on the right side of frame above the front of the trigger guard,
but as Kiwi said hard to tell from that pic, a pic of the slide fron the left will tell all:)
ATB

Bonsoir and Thank you,

I'm sure it's not a Denix and you can remove the magazine.

I've seen it quickly and the quality look pretty good, but this screw was an inconvenient for me, but now i realise that there is not a lot of model gun to buy in France, so...

Philippe

Here's a photo of a real P38 (right hand side) for comparison.

You could always use a Dremmel or file to remove the slot in the screw head, and make it resemble a Pin with a flat head - it would not look so obvious.


Cheers,
Kiwigunner

There's a replica P38 listed by www.zib-militaria.de that resembles your model:

The screw you mention above the trigger is there, this one has serial number 2637, but the right side appears to have "SMG MARUSHIN" *** SEE BELOW*** stamped on the frame. just above the trigger guard (as far as I can tell from the photo) It's described as having moving parts, and dry fires. If it IS a Marushin model 47 Euros sounds like a good price to me

EDIT: a clearer larger image shows stamping to read more like MADE IN SPAIN" NOT SMG MAUSHIN as correctly suggested by JohnnyV below

Hi Cerwyn
looks like an early Denix... but the " P8 " not P38 is interesting???
are they the only pictures? are you sure it does not say "made in Spain" on the right?

as we know with the Mac11 and Luger etc Denix were never affraid to cast from Japanese modelguns, and i think they did use the marushin P38 as a model for their versions.....
what we need is a close up of the left side:)
though it could be a cut and shut mix of Marushin/Denix parts.... still guessing here:)

Hi John,

Try as I might I can't get the zoomed image sharp enough to guarantee it's "SMG MARUSHIN", but it looks very much like it to me (mind you, my eyesight ain't as good as it once was ). ZIB-Militaria do stock Spanish made replicas, we can only but assume they must be Denix, but they also have replica MG42, MG34, there's even a lovely looking MP28 listed, maker not specified

The photos I posted earlier were of the "aged" version, here are some of their "new" version showing Left-side details







Same serial number 2637, P.38 on this one while the "aged" version has P.3 (again I think) which is interesting as you say. I've e-mailed them to ask if these are Denix or Marushin, that'll sort it hopefully

Hi Cerwyn; my eye-sight is also a challenge at times!
As Johnny has indicated, this is the non-firing replica is made by Denix. It is not as heavy as the original (1 lb 9.3 ounces versus 2.1 lbs for the original) but it has the same look and feel of the original. Although it doesn't have the same double-action feature, the slide / receiver can be pulled to the rear, cocking the weapon, and the hammer will fall when the trigger is pulled. The slide will not stay locked to the rear since there isn't a magazine follower to hold the slide open, and the magazine can't be removed from the magazine well in the pistol grip. The safely selector switch is also fixed and does not move.
(I think you can see the "join" in the photos if you enlarge the picture ) But their attention to providing some numerical details is curious - particularly when they "missed" getting "P38" correct!

But as a holster filler, movie prop or a reasonable look-alike for a P38, the Denix model works well enough - I had one for a bout 3 months before I auctioned it off and bought a Maruzen Airsoft P38 (lovely bb gun) AND a Marushin HW ABS P38 PFC model.

I also have an early MGC dummy modelgun - and yes: I DO have a like of this German designed weapon. The double-action and the safety/loaded/unloaded chamber indicator were features I find intriguing!

I guess if Peticopo indeed has an early Marushin, then it might be worth having as a rare modelgun?

Kiwigunner

Just to add to the mix it could be CMC ??
Speaking of which, what about this one below:
(yes barrel sight seems odd, but it all seems original! )

Hi,
End of the story, the seller says me that a thief have taken this old zamac p38 in his shop .

So if the thief read this text, he can put pictures...

But it's cool I've just bought this 1980Marushin Commercial P38 on ebay, it's new with his box. I prefer the military look even if the grip are a little too orange.

Philippe

Hi,
Good news,
I just went to buy this P38 on « Priceminister », it seems to be similar to the first one but has brown grips, it is in zamac.
The marks are : P38 nmg 42 1974 japan
Do you know it ?

Thanks