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PostSubject: Marushin MP40 Cartridges   Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:58 pm

Post by jay851

anyone got some of the older style marushin mp40 cartridges they wish to part with,they are the ones that are the same diameter all the way down and im having alot of trouble getting hold of any.
also,does anyone know whether the new marushin mp40 mags will fit the older metal marushin mp40.

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PostSubject: Re: Marushin MP40 Cartridges   Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:58 pm

Post by Claymore

I only know 2 places where you can get rounds and you probably know about them already.

www.modelguns.co.uk

www.modelguncollector.co.uk

Where did you get the model from, if it was from modelguns.co.uk then he will sell you rounds and i am sure that if they are around he can get them but he only sells rounds if you bought the model from him. modelguncollector will sell rounds if you bought from them or not and say they say can obtain older rounds.

Apart from that i dont know of anywhere you can get them, i have tried endoshiji before on spares but never got a reply and i cannot find any sites (in english) in japan where i could get spares, rounds or caps.
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PostSubject: Re: Marushin MP40 Cartridges   Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:59 pm

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Hi Jay, I guess that i am not sure what you mean:
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they are the ones that are the same diameter all the way down
I was under the impression that the MP40/Uzi cartridges where the same other than the older paper cap type cartridges. I think that the newer MP40/Uzi cartridges will work although they might look a little different. The older all zinc Marushin MP40's possibly might use the later magazines, but since i haven't checked myself, i can't say for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Marushin MP40 Cartridges   Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:01 pm

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it was purchased privately so modelguns.co.uk is a no no,and i have asked modelguncollector and they are looking into it but with no luck yet.
when i got the gun it came with two types of cartridge,an older type that are near 10 mm in diameter that work with the gun,and some new 'untested' ones which are about 9mm in diameter and have a smaller diameter at the front to resemble the end of a bullet. these new ones will not work as they will not be held in the magazine lips due to them being smaller in diameter,and i am presuming these are the new style cartridge for the abs mp40.

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PostSubject: Re: Marushin MP40 Cartridges   Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:01 pm

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Do any of these cartridges look like what you have?
They are:
1. Marushin MP40/Uzi (PFC)
2. MGC Sig 220 (CP)
3. Hudson Sten (CPHW)
4. MGC/KSC Beretta (CPHW)
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PostSubject: Re: Marushin MP40 Cartridges   Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:02 pm

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hi mark
none of them resemble the old cartridges i have,but the mp40/uzi one is the same as the new ones that i have,can you measure the diameter and length of that one please. how can i post a pic and i'll put one of the old cartridge up.

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PostSubject: Re: Marushin MP40 Cartridges   Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:03 pm

Post by Mark

Hi Jay, the Marushin cartridges are 9.5mmx27mm.

Jay, you can use http://www.photobucket.com/ register and then use the "browse" button to find the picture that you want and then, hit the "submit" After the picture(s) have up-loaded, at the pictures bottom, there will be:

URL

Tag

Img

You will need to "copy and paste" the Img file onto the reply area of the forums.
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PostSubject: Re: Marushin MP40 Cartridges   Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:04 pm

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right,got my canera going so here are some pics of the carts that work with my mp40. they are 28mm long x 10mm diameter,any ideas.





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PostSubject: Re: Marushin MP40 Cartridges   Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:09 pm

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Woh, you stumped me on those! They are certainly different, and i have never seen any cartridges like them before..They do however, have a MGC style HW piston and other MGC sourced parts like the "primer" The diameter really through me off and makes me think that these are custom cartridges.

I really have not seen these anywhere! Strange! Something obliviously limited production wise if they aren't custom.
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PostSubject: Re: Marushin MP40 Cartridges   Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:10 pm

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Wait, i forgot, is your MP40 an all metal Marushin or?
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PostSubject: Re: Marushin MP40 Cartridges   Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:11 pm

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mark, yes it is the all metal marushin mp40.

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PostSubject: Re: Marushin MP40 Cartridges   Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:11 pm

Post by Mark

Jay, i am still stumped as to what manufacture/type those cartridges belong to. They look more and more like custom cartridges to me...or...Early MGC .38 super cartridges. Can you post pictures of the detonator? I am sure that you can convert your Marushin MP back to the Marushin MP40/Uzi cartridges. With the proper loading sequence and grease, they work just as well as any other cartridge type and will blow back the heavy zinc MP40 bolt with no problem. The Marushin MP40/Uzi standard cartridges are all that i use in my MGC MP40!
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PostSubject: Re: Marushin MP40 Cartridges   Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:12 pm

Post by jay851

i guess thats what i will have to do mark as i have some of the newer carts.could someone please give me the dimensions of the newer marushin mp40 mag where it goes into the mag well,as i was told by someone that the newer mags are smaller and will wobble quite badly.
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PostSubject: Re: Marushin MP40 Cartridges   Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:13 pm

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Jay, i have read that Sten "type" magazines fit the zinc Marushin MP40's..Now, whatever Sten "type" magazines really means is questionable do they mean real Sten magazines? The Hudson Sten Or the rare MGC Sten magazines? The Magazines that the later ABS Marushin MP40 uses are the same size as real MP40 magazines. So, if the real Sten magazines are slightly larger than the real/late Marushin MP40....I will try to get the dimensions for you later..
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