Caps for a Hudson Mauser

Post by artemis

I received a Hudson Mauser M1930 Broomhandle (pics on p.2 of Buy/Sell section) from Francky yesterday.

Compared to the Marushin M712, it’s crude in workmanship and detail. The internal mechanisms are very basic and of poor quality. In short, the pistol looks to be of amateurish manufacture.

The pistol did not come with any caps. I tried to use my 7mm Marushin cap in the bullet, but the cap's too large. Checking the Japanese manual, I found 5mm mentioned in the pics. Was wondering if either the 5mm MGC or Marushin caps might work on the Hudson Mauser?

Krish

Post by Claymore

are the rounds open rounds or cp style, if they are open ones then they are old rounds that take a paper cap not plastic (my open barrel thompson rounds are like that) if so plastic caps wont fit so unles the gun can be adapted for cp style you will be stuck

Post by artemis

Mark,
the bullet looks the same-albeit slightly smaller-as the Marushin bullet. There is also a little detachable rod like thing inside, instead of the washer that the Marushin comes with.

I'll post a pic this evening. It's frustrating not being able to fire it


Marushin above and Hudson below.


Hudson(L)

Post by Mark

The Hudson cartridges are like no other manufacurers design and they take some extra care to load correctly.
As you know, the cap sits face up in the cartridges base and the "piston" fits in the cartridge body. Now, the "piston" has to have on it's smaller end, a gasget (typically,Hudson would supply a sheet of orange plastic gasgets that resemble O-rings) to seal in the gasses that would escape past the piston.

It appears that this cartridge takes the Marushin/MGC 5mm caps instead of the 7mm caps.

The "hole" on the Hudson cartridge's side is ment to allow the sparks and gasses to escape from that point so they will show up better at the muzzle and the ejection port.
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Post by artemis

Thanks Mark

Now, what are the chances that my Hudson will break if I use it to fire the caps? Francky said that he wouldn't try to fire it personally due to its age and quality. I for one only bought it so I could fire it. I simply am not interested in keeping it as a replica.

So, will it blow up when I fire or not is the question!?

Post by Claymore

If Francky does not reccomend it then it will probably break, the 5mm caps are as powerfull as the 7mm i think so i dont think the problem would be the power of the cap but the age of the gun.
Thats the trouble with the older models there have been a number of older models i would of liked to of picked up but a lot are in a bad condition some are not blowback and many only take open round and paper cap and cannot (without serious playiong about with) be converted to cp rounds.
At the end of the day all these modelguns break somewhere in the end but parts are available for the a lot, see if Francky get get any spares for the model then if it does break you will be OK.