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PostSubject: I feel stupid (again)... Cartridge Loading Question   Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:12 pm

Post by shooterMCgaven

Hello!

As I have said before, I am very new to modelguns and I have one final question that I have overlooked in my previous posts. Get ready, this has got to to the noobyist question in the world: when I am loading the cap into the cart, do I just push it in with the loading tool, or do I need to take anything out of the bottom first, then put it in? I am sorry for this noob question, but I am very new to modelguns and I plainly don't know what to do.

Thank you in advance, & any help is appreciated.
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PostSubject: Re: I feel stupid (again)... Cartridge Loading Question   Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:14 pm

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nah, you just put it in with the loading tool without taking out the little round thing in the bottom of the cart

I had a link explaining precisely how to load one,

Here it is :

http://www.modelguns.co.uk/mgc_carts.htm

Everything should be clear enough
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PostSubject: Re: I feel stupid (again)... Cartridge Loading Question   Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:14 pm

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is this method also compatible with 5.56mm carts?
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PostSubject: Re: I feel stupid (again)... Cartridge Loading Question   Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:15 pm

Hiya,
Don't be afraid of asking questions mate, I ask stupid questions all the time! One thing I learned really quick about this forum is that there are plenty of people here that know the answers and want to help!

http://www.modelguns.co.uk/mgc_carts.htm is a good clear information sheet. I guess it covers all calibers that use the piston firing pin and O Ring method?
The Marushin MP40 type are a little different because the firing pin doesn't move.
I did have a link to the step by step instruction sheet for them but I can't find it!
I'll keep looking and scan it if I find it.
Basically though the preparation is the same, make sure the inside of the cartridge is spotlesslyclean.Lay the parts out ... there's the Endcap complete with the firing pin
7mm cap, shaped washer and the casing.
Give the inside of the casing a wipe with some light oil, I found WD40 great for this but don't use it on the O ring type rounds. It'll give more smoke effect.
Place the shaped washer into the casing, make sure the dished face is facing the gun's detonator pin.
Lightly smear a little lithium grease (light bearing grease is great) on the edges of the cap and place it into the casing, make sure the powder charge is dry and facing the rear of the cartridge.
Push the cap down into the nose of the cartridge with the loading tool
until it seats properly.
Screw the end cap on and there you go.
When you fire the gun, the bolt picks up the round from the mag and pushes it into the chamber.
It'spushed until the gun's detonating pin enters the hole in the bullet's nose.
The dished washer is shaped to fit the gun's pin so make sure it's in the right way!
The bolt pushes the bullet, the pin then pushes the washer and cap down inside the cartridge until the cap hits the firing pin in the endcap.
The resulting bang creates enough pressure to force the cap and washer back up the casing, all that recoil sends the bolt back too and the cycle happens again.
Keeping the inside of the casing clean and lubricated is the key here. If it's dirty and dry, the cap won't slide properly so you won't get good firing, ejecting nor automatic feeding either.
A light squirt of WD40 on the gun's firing pin before firing gives more soke too!
Hope that helps!
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PostSubject: Re: I feel stupid (again)... Cartridge Loading Question   Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:16 pm

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cool, Thanks for the help guys! And thanks for the cleaning tips!
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PostSubject: Re: I feel stupid (again)... Cartridge Loading Question   Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:16 pm

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And dont feel too stupid asking that sort of question, that is what we are here for. The first time that I loaded some, I was so careful to use plenty of lubrication to help it work great, being a shooter always making sure that everything is kept well lubricated came naturally, but was not so careful to make sure that the caps kept dry! Needless to say, they didnt work. Now, I felt stupid.
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PostSubject: Re: I feel stupid (again)... Cartridge Loading Question   Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:17 pm

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lol, it's nice to hear that I am not the only one with these kinds of questions.
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PostSubject: Re: I feel stupid (again)... Cartridge Loading Question   Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:18 pm

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lol, don't worry about it, we're all like that
I think it should work for the 5,56 as cerwyn said, it explains how to load any caliber (I think) that use O rings
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PostSubject: Re: I feel stupid (again)... Cartridge Loading Question   Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:18 pm

Another cleaning tip for you Shooter,
When you get hooked on your new hobby, and you will, you'll have dozens of brass rounds in need of cleaning.
It's a horrible, tedious job but it needs doing.
Get yourself a small Ultrasonic cleaner, the kind they use for cleaning jewellry, they're only about $40 - $50
Once you've dismantled your rounds, drop them and the guns firing pin and chamber into the cleaner with some hot water and some detergent (washing up liquid)
Switch thecleaner on and run it (usually 3 minute cycles) 4or 5 times changing the water if you need to. It will turn black with dirt.
Take them out and dry them off with a towel or hair dryer.
To make sure the inside of the chamber is spotless, I've been using a Lyman Vibrating Tumble polisher intended for real brass ammunition cases. The cases are tumbled in a powder for 2-3 hours and come out like new, absolutely gleaming.
All you need do then is wipe the insides with a Q-tip dipped in WD40 or similar and you're ready for reloading.
It took me awhile torealise how vital cleanliness is, constant jams and misfires are a pain but a thing of the past now.
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PostSubject: Re: I feel stupid (again)... Cartridge Loading Question   Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:19 pm

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thx for the extra cleaning tip Cerwyn! I have actually been looking into buying an ultrasonic cleaner, but thx for giving me an approval.
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PostSubject: Re: I feel stupid (again)... Cartridge Loading Question   Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:20 pm

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For guns that use O rings in their cartridges, I would not reccomend using WD40, as it is known to corrode the rubber. Use a silicone lubricant
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PostSubject: Re: I feel stupid (again)... Cartridge Loading Question   Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:20 pm

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100% pure silicone oil right?
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PostSubject: Re: I feel stupid (again)... Cartridge Loading Question   Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:21 pm

Hiya,

How areyou getting along with your cartridges now? All systems firing?

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PostSubject: Re: I feel stupid (again)... Cartridge Loading Question   Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:21 pm

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Yes, thank you for asking. Everything is in working order.
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