CAW Hudson MAD MAX Shotgun Cartridge

Subject: CAW Hudson MAD MAX Shotgun Cartridge Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:48 am

Cartridge: CAW - Hudson MAD MAX Shotgun

Manufacturer	CAW
Designation	12 gauge
Type	CP-HW
Carts per box	2
Length
Diameter
Weight	108g
Parts	4
O-ring size	na
Caps	7mm - 7 caps per cartridge
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Used in:	Hudson MAD MAX Shotgun

Note: Scroll down page for photos and more details

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Cerwyn

Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria.
also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.

Subject: Re: CAW Hudson MAD MAX Shotgun Cartridge Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:50 am

ljerr2 wrote:: Thought some of you might be interested in the new CAW cartridges available for the MadMax. These are the brass carts that hold SEVEN 7mm caps each!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice flash and bang! See for yourself:
https://vid163.photobucket.com/albums/t319/ljerr2/DSCN2323_zpsbirukhcw.mp4

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Cerwyn

Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria.
also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.

Subject: Re: CAW Hudson MAD MAX Shotgun Cartridge Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:53 am

claymore wrote:: Looks and sounds good but 7 caps! thats going to be expensive to fire

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Cerwyn

Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria.
also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.

Subject: Re: CAW Hudson MAD MAX Shotgun Cartridge Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:53 am

Cerwyn wrote:: Impressive

I wonder if CAW have cartridges that are suitable for MGC M31 Pump Action Shotguns
That sort of sound and flash would transform one of those.
7 caps each shot would be expensive, but I've been known to regularly fire 100-120 caps with SMGs in a session.
Is there any information about these CAW cartridges anywhere please

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Cerwyn

Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria.
also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.

Subject: Re: CAW Hudson MAD MAX Shotgun Cartridge Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:54 am

ljerr2 wrote:: Yes - 7 caps each time you pull the trigger. Does seem a bit excessive, but as Cerwyn has said - I too have been known to go through a box of caps quite quickly on an "auto-firing day"!
Makes you wonder how they came up with 7 as the magic number?

These cartridges are quite interesting compared to the typical MadMax shell. These look more like a giant version of CAW's triple-cap carts for the SAA pistol. They are made almost exclusively of brass, with the exception of the "primer". They have an internal firing pin and do not use the MadMax's detonators. Heavy brass construction is probably a good idea to contain the pressures of 7 caps igniting simultaneously.

They do not look realistic because of this construction, and are VERY HEAVY! However, for the final effect, I think they are worth it. Loading the seven caps (all in a line, one on top of the other) is fairly easy and straight forward. Unloading the spent caps I found to be kind of a pain, but again, worth it in my opinion.

Unfortunately, mostly due to weight and design, they seem to be suited for the manual action of the MadMax, but a similar design for a M31 pump action probably wouldn't seem practical.

I believe they were designed to be able to just drop right in a MadMax, but I decided to remove my detonators to try them. My thinking was that this would provide a cleaner, straighter shot for the flame effect. It also makes it easier to clean the barrels after firing.

I got my CAW carts from our friend Shaz. If you guys want a pic or two, let me know and I'll post some up soon.

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Cerwyn

Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria.
also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.

Subject: Re: CAW Hudson MAD MAX Shotgun Cartridge Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:56 am

ljerr2 wrote:: Here is some more info on the CAW MadMax brass carts.

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Here you can see the brass cartridges compared to the Hudson cartridge. Also pictured is the cap loading and unloading tool. It is easy to note that the brass rim is significantly thicker than the typical cartridge dimension, however, they both sit in the barrels to the same depth since the Hudson cart is initially held out slightly due to the contact of the caps and detonators. The brass cartridge has a recess in the end to fit over the 3-prong detonators. Each unloaded cartridge weighs in at a hefty 108g or 3.8oz.

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Here is the illustration that comes with the cartridges to help explain the loading procedure.

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Cerwyn

Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria.
also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.

Subject: Re: CAW Hudson MAD MAX Shotgun Cartridge Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:57 am

smootik wrote:: Wooow, that's quite a developement!
I'd love to try those, even if this means going through caps at an alarming rate ;-)

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Cerwyn

Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria.
also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.

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