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PostSubject: Mgc Mac 11 help   Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:39 pm

Hi all

Just bought an mgc Mac 11 and have fired 5 rounds through it without a problem, using the silicone grease from Maplin.

Is there a field strip guide at all, to clean it etc, any help is appreciated.

I got the normal mg caps with it (5mm) yellow box, I do have the silver prop powder, would a wee tiny bit of that in the caps create a nice wee flash from barrel and ejection port.

Thanks again in advance
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PostSubject: Re: Mgc Mac 11 help   Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:32 am

Hi all

I meant to ask, is there anyway to get a metal part to replace the plastic bit where the bolt slides back and forth.

I'd like to make it all metal (soft metal) nothing illegal.

Is that possible

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PostSubject: Re: Mgc Mac 11 help   Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:44 pm

Metal upper and lower receivers used to be made for the airsoft M11's but the company stopped making them some time ago, only way to get them it too buy second hand airsoft M11 that had the conversion but to be honest i never see them for sale.
I saw another company on youtube making both again but have never seem any airsoft shop here on in HK selling the kits. Not sure even if you spent the money the airsoft metal kits would work but i dont think there is much difference in size (if any) between airsoft and modelgun versions.
As i say you will be lucky to find a kit and if cost is anything to go the for kits for 93r's to turn into robocop guns were astronomical.

As for taking the M11 apart

first pull the little lever on the lower receiver on the front of the gun you can then push the pin on the upper receiver out.
pull out the upper receiver
pull the cocking handle back to bring the bolt back and then turn handle so the gap (the sights) are sideways then pull the cocking handle out, you can remove the bolt.
The det pin in the chamber is removed by removing the grub screw with an allen key, the getting a thin metal rod putting sown the barrel and lightly tapping the det pin out, its in tight.




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PostSubject: Re: Mgc Mac 11 help   Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:22 pm

Thank you pal

I'm quite happy with it, I've fired about 10 rounds through it, 6 in semi and 4 on auto, not a miss fire or jam, bit I've been using that silicone grease that people mentioned and it seems to be really good :-) I stuck a wee bit of proppowder in 1 shot and had a nice spark from the ejection and barrel.

I'm really glad I found out about model guns as they are really good to mess around with (sensible messing around) not running about the street shouting "yeeha" lol.

I've still to try the uzi that I got back, but they put a new detonator in and said they tested it and it fired flawless, I know your gonna get jams and miss fires, even real guns do that, so I don't expect too much, but that's why it didn't work and I had to send it back, the detonator pin was bent, and when the bolt was moving the catridges forward, they were sticking.

Thanks again for the advice :-)

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PostSubject: Re: Mgc Mac 11 help   Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:40 am

Hi all

I meant to say that the Mac 11 I have is a .380, is there a way of converting it to fire 9mm catridges, like the ones I have for the uzi

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PostSubject: Re: Mgc Mac 11 help   Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:40 am

claymore wrote:
Metal upper and lower receivers used to be made for the airsoft M11's but the company stopped making them some time ago, only way to get them it too buy second hand airsoft M11 that had the conversion but to be honest i never see them for sale.





They stopped making them as they were deemed 'weapons grade' steel as I understood it. I never heard which country or testing authority lead to that conclusion though!??! I have a converted KWA M11 GBB with the G&P steel conversion kit and it sure weighs and feels like weapons grade stuff. They are extremely rare and collectable now of course since G&P stopped making them (about 4-5 years ago). Last one that came up on Gunstar (I think) sold for over £400.

As to whether it would fit an MGC - I wouldn't know, but probably not and as Modelguns are closer than GBB's to RS I don't think the Law would take kindly to it...(imo)
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PostSubject: Re: Mgc Mac 11 help   Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:22 pm

dvdripped wrote:
Hi all

I meant to say that the Mac 11 I have is a .380, is there a way of converting it to fire 9mm catridges, like the ones I have for the uzi

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Hi, I've never heard of a conversion as such, but some are converted to fire the "closed" M84 rounds. These are also 380, but are not open like the MGC MAC 11 cartridges are. A new Det pin is required. I think there have been some threads on this...
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PostSubject: Re: Mgc Mac 11 help   Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:46 am

There are several options for MGC M11 rounds that I know of:
- the M84 conversion mentioned above (but I haven't tried)
- MGC open rounds (no longer made) requires open deto
- MGC CP-HW BLK rounds (no longer made, but parts are interchangeable with the CAW rounds)
- CAW CP-HW BLK rounds - current production
- Tanio Koba M11 EasyCp rounds - current production - requires TK deto
- C-Tec M11 rounds - current production


The Tanio Koba and Ctec take 7mm caps. Not sure about the M84 round. The others are 5mm caps. Hope that helps some.
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PostSubject: Re: Mgc Mac 11 help   Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:42 am

M84 take 7mm and the last vid i did on the M11 the MGC was firing the M84. Problem is the m84 round is larger than the normal M11 round so you can only get around 16 rounds (at a real squeeze) in the mag (a 30 round mag at that), so the 16 round mag would be a waste of time.

i dont think full 9mm rounds are a viable proposition for the M11, they will be too big so stick to the rounds made for it, they work fine.
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PostSubject: Re: Mgc Mac 11 help   Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:33 pm

Hi all

I have a problem than I'm hoping a uk member in here can help.

After firing over 10 rounds, I always field strip and clean, I put it all back together and this has happened.

It won't cock back as the firing pin won't stay in its place, how can I get around this or fixit.

Any help is appreciated

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PostSubject: Re: Mgc Mac 11 help   Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:52 am

You can see on the rear of the bolt that the boss located where the ejector enters it is broken away. You may be able to carefully grind the area flush, slightly oversize the hole and insert a small piece of brass tubing to act as a sleeve and replacement boss in order to keep the ejector in alignment. If it were mine, I'd sure give that a shot as finding a replacement MGC M11 Heavyweight bolt might be difficult. I've successfully done it on other M11 bolts where the ejector tunnel was worn so much that it was no longer a round opening, but elongated. This caused ejection issues. Found some brass tubing at the hobby shop and was able to get things back in order.

On a related note, the bolt you pictured is a HW bolt and I'm pretty sure there should be a rubber spacer/buffer/bumper on the ejector rod. I couldn't see the buffer in your 2nd pic.
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PostSubject: Re: Mgc Mac 11 help   Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:12 pm

I've wondered if anyone in the uk is able to do me a firing pin, just like the one picture, but maybe a couple of mm longer, so the pin stays in the hole.

I've had a close look and feel if I was to drill the hole slightly bigger, it would come out the top.

Any help is appreciated

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PostSubject: MGC MAC 11   Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:15 pm

I've just stripped mine to see how it compares (mine is unfired!) and the rubber "bumper" on mine just fell apart!!

I've looked and it is part 36 in the kit, I assume that this part would be impossible to find, so I would have to replace it with something hand made...... Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Mgc Mac 11 help   Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:34 pm

Browning - Regarding the bumper, a piece of heavy rubber tubing may work.  Or, possibly a replacement part from CAW may be available since the model has been re-released by them with a similar bolt design on the rear.
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PostSubject: Re: Mgc Mac 11 help   Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:36 am

Would the firing pin (a couple of mm longer) would that work

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PostSubject: Re: Mgc Mac 11 help   Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:47 am

Ljerr2

Do you still have your new caw Mac 11 for sale or is it sold pal

Where can I get a caw one

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PostSubject: Re: Mgc Mac 11 help   Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:48 pm

Had the same problem with my MGC MAC11. Solved it like described. But after repair my ejector rod (the part that pushes away the shells) is bent and causes malfunktion. Is yours straight?

BTW: Has somebody ever shoot a fully loaded 32rd-mag with that modelgun or is the friction/spring pressure too huge?

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PostSubject: Re: Mgc Mac 11 help   Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:06 am

Hi pal

I've yet to get a new bolt and pin

Once I do, I'll post an update

I'm still after a pin, but not sure if they can be bought or not

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PostSubject: Re: Mgc Mac 11 help   Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:00 am

I did find this breakdown illustration on the forum, hope it helps.
http://mp40modelguns.forumotion.net/t1992-mac-11-take-down-instructions
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