Armelite expolded diagram

Post by jay851

right guys
has anyone got an exploded diagram of any of the armalite range of model guns that they could email me.
im starting a new project and need a doner gun for the trigger group.
any help much appreciated.

jay
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currently own:
hudson m3a1 greasegun
mgc early type open barrel thompson smg
kokusai s&w military/police 4" bull barrel

Post by Claymore

Jay, i take it you mean the M16 range if so i have MGC instructions and marushin for the XM177.

Post by jay851

hi chaps
i'm trying to put together a pfc mp5 but a bit stuck on the trigger group.
so i'm just trying to find a doner gun(not kebab ) but after having a chat with mark,i'm not sure the m16 trigger group will work.i may have to make one similar to the real mp5.
claymore,could you mail me a copy of them anyway mate.

cheers
jay
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currently own:
hudson m3a1 greasegun
mgc early type open barrel thompson smg
kokusai s&w military/police 4" bull barrel

Post by Claymore

yep will do but give me a few days. What about the ingram mac 11 trigger assembly, from what i have seen a lot of the guys in Japan have used the ingram for donor parts.
Good luck with the project

Post by jay851

cheers claymore.
the mac fires from an open bolt i believe,where as the mp5 is from a closed bolt so the trigger would be different.
anyone know much about the beretta m12,that looks similar.

jay
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currently own:
hudson m3a1 greasegun
mgc early type open barrel thompson smg
kokusai s&w military/police 4" bull barrel

Post by Mark

Jay, the MGC M12 is open bolt too..So, i think that narrows down the search a little bit.
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MGC MP40 Marushin MP40 Nakata MP40 TRC MP40

Modelgun manufacturers, past and present:CMC,CAW,Hudson,HWS,LS,MGC(R.I.P. 1960's~2007) Marushin,Marui,Kokusai,Shoei,Tanaka and Western Arms

Post by jay851

hi mark
oh well mate,looks more likely that im going to have to make something myself.i have been looking at some diagrams off the internet of the mp5 trigger mechanism and it does look quite technical.there are plenty of places selling trigger parts in the u.s,not sure if buying them is against the law over here though . any more progress on your project mark.

jay
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currently own:
hudson m3a1 greasegun
mgc early type open barrel thompson smg
kokusai s&w military/police 4" bull barrel

Post by Mark

Hi Jay,

Yes, unfortunately, the MP5's trigger group is quite complicated and there are some tricky parts to make and it would be nice to use real fire control parts..But, i am sure that both of our respective countries governments would think that we where trying to make real guns Besides, Washington state prohibits any machinegun parts here in the state so , i really don't have much of a choice myself.

So, it's either homemade or use modelgun components. My project is on hold for a while until i get some time to work on it I still think about it everyday though and i will get it done...Also, i have to buy some tooling to finish it anyway..
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Wanted to buy: MGC Sten MK3....trades?(still)

MGC MP40 Marushin MP40 Nakata MP40 TRC MP40

Modelgun manufacturers, past and present:CMC,CAW,Hudson,HWS,LS,MGC(R.I.P. 1960's~2007) Marushin,Marui,Kokusai,Shoei,Tanaka and Western Arms

Post by Commando

Jay, mate you need to buy the lower receiver from elsewhere, you would not be able to make the trigger assembly from scratch which is usable. Try ordering one from US. H&K trigger mechs are complex, therefore if you make one be careful because missfires are common with unpatented Mp5s.