More Remakes from Marushin... Updated August 08

Post by jim

Happy New Year everyone...let's kickstart with something exciting:

1) MP40 HW (built model) - due to be released after April 2008 (?), this will be the first MP40 made with heavy weight material



2) Metal M16A1 & XM177E2 with parkerised finish (built model again - not the kit) - don't know if they'll somehow make the 30rd mag as well...



3) Colt .25 Auto / Browning M1910 in silver ABS (dummy models)



*Source: noda-ya.com

Hi Jim!

And a very happy new year to you also

Good news indeed that Marushin are releasing these HW models. It's a damn shame that getting these into the UK is going to be difficult now although not impossible

I'd be very interested to see more of the HW MP40 as it's my favourite gun of all.
I wonder how the HW abs compares to the standard material? Am I right in thinking that some of the pistols tend to be more prone to cracking etc as the HW abs can be more brittle?

Most encouraging though is the fact that Marushin intend to continue production of the pfc MP40...
Their recent release of the GBB 8mm Airsoft MP40 had us worried that the pfc variant would disappear
Thankfully they seem keen to continue

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Post by MadMike

All is quiet on New Years's Day ... ? That's great news that Marushin will offer factory assembled long arms again. It looks like it is up to them to prevent the modelgun hobby from dying. Anyway let`s see if the HW MP40 will be as sturdy as the ABS version.
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Post by jim

I'm afraid to say that the HW material is MORE brittle than the ABS and for the full-auto MP40 I don't think it'll withstand constant firing...maybe it'll be better to leave it as display items...

From another website I can see another addition on Marushin's Modelgun line-up for 2008 - M92SB HW (noticed I didn't put "Beretta" next to it - I believe "Pierce Bullet" will be stamped on the slide & "MI" (for "Marushin Industry" on the grips for this one again)

Post by MadMike

Is modelguns already offering this model?

http://www.modelguns-worldwide.com/fact-xm177.htm

It comes with parkerized finish, but could be a custom made model as well. It has the newer (kit version) receiver, no production date stamped into it, with newer "SMG" marking. It also comes with the M655 barrel and front sight (bayonet lug), so it is not a M629 XM177E2, but a later M653 "M16A1 Carbine" truely ...

The box looks like the old box used by marushin 25 years ago.

A very interesting model. What do you think?
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Post by jim

I think this is a real deal...from what I recalled Marushin had indeed released M653 as well as their M16A1 & XM177E2...and for some reason they dropped M653 from their catalog later...

As Madmike might know - only old MGC bothered to make as many M16 variants as possible (both pfc & airsoft)...so if anyone can afford this extremely rare M653 - QUICK!

Post by MadMike

I don't know if they ever made a M 653 (14,5 inch barrel carbine with retractable buttstock), but they made a so called M655 (14,5 inch barrel with fixed rifle buttstock). Do you mean this?



This is a factory assembled M 655 Carbine, stamped 4 80 so I suppose it was made April 1980.

Marushin,as most modelgun and Airsoft companies is propably wrong with the M 655, as the M 655 was an experimental sniper rifle. The Carbine with fixed stock was propably a Colt M 651 ...

Man, how I love those AR-15s ...
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Post by shazhib

Good catch Jim.

On top of those model, Marushin is planning to release:

Enfield Police version (short barrel) with wooden stock.

Mauser M712 carbine. Since this will be categorized in long gun, this will be in black body, not shiny gold.

S

Post by jim

Madmike,

Oops...I too feel something was wrong about the M653 so I checked again...and it's ACTUALLY M655 (some might say the only difference between it is 2... )

But like you says - the MKK M655 isn't really a M655...so please forgive me for the mistake as MKK made bigger mistakes (therefore the one from Jay is something else )

So will you get the factory-assembled M16s later on? I know I'll get the XM177E2 definitely...

shazhib,

Yes I know the Enfield Police is coming soon...but I already have a pair of Enfields so I'm not sure if I'll get this one (if the packaging this time is better than the dummy .25 & the M1910 then I might get it).

Mauser M712 Carbine...I love the M712 BUT definitely not the Carbine (don't ask me why...I can't figure it out either)

Jim

Post by jim

Hi shazhib,

Maybe I should clarify on my earlier post: if the design of the box for the Enfield Police this time is better than the relatively simplistic box design for the dummy Colt .25 & the M1910 earlier on then I might consider getting this as my 3rd Enfield...

Jim

Post by Mark

Hmm, a HW Marushin made mp40 eh? Looks like i will have to save some money towards one of these. Although, i must admit it is sort of a strange decision that Marushin made to make a HW version of the mp40 unless it is meant for the airsoft version.
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Post by shazhib

mark,

I hear you what you say.
I am assuming Marushin is making MP40 in HW because:

- airsoft is selling very very bad recently due to power regulation, need to get some cash
- If it were in HW, an owner can enjoy bluing so that Marushin expect addtional sell
- cutting down of airsoft production creating a surplus of HW material, Marushin shifts it to modelgun
- Observing Browning 1910 sold very well, Marushin put more weight on modelgun??

S

Post by shazhib

Hi Everyone ,

The contribution below contains AIRSOFT REFERENCES as to make my case for recent modelgun revival (seemingly at least)...

I think the bad sales on airsofts mainly based on AEGs (Marui as the main casualty) because of the Chinese flooding the world with economical full-metal electric guns recently...

For power regulation (i.e. 0.98J) I don't think most airsoft makers are affected (namely KSC, Marui) because even before this new regulation the power of most of the semi-auto handguns lies well below 0.98J so it won't be a problem...

Marushin & Tanaka are the biggest losers - their non-blowback Maxi series (MKK) and the Pegasus revolvers as well as the high-powered bolt-action rifles (Tanaka) loses all the appeal immediately (but I wasn't affected because they released some "Export Version" outside Japan)

Before I got expelled I'll switch back to modelguns immediately...

As everyone can see Marushin now turns back to modelguns so expect more makers (CAW, HWS, Tanaka...or even KSC) to follow suit - we might be able to see Tanaka remake the Mini-14 series and maybe KSC redesign the internals and release modelgun CZ75...at least that's what I hope...

With power now out of the question - both airsofters & modelgunners have to stick to "Blowback Action" only - but for modelguns, the sparks and the smokes are more attractive isn't it (apart from cleaning the rounds - so PLEASE come the disposable rounds).

Then for MP40 from Marushin...they're running out of options (they've already made zinc, factory ABS and then recently kit ABS) - so it's natural for them to make MP40 in HW - something they'd never done before - maybe later we can see a all-silver ABS MP40 as a way to boost up sales...

Finally...should I thank the new airsoft power limit because it revives the modelgun market ?

Post by Spencerman

So if I read this right does that imply then Shazhib that hw model guns can be blued?
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Post by ljerr2



I will have to make room for one of those XM's. Does anyone know the anticipated release date? Is it also an April ETA?

Post by shazhib

ljerr2,

Seems it is April, but Marushin never be punctuate around the release day in a past.......

Post by MadMike

We talked about it on the mp40modelguns forum a few months ago. Marushin was said to plan rereleasing the factory assembled M16A1 and XM177E2. I think I found some pictures on Yahoo Japan. They are fully assembled and come with the steel 20 rd magazine and parkerized (grey/green) military finish and the kit manual. Interesting to know if there are other changes? Is the XM flashhider metal? Maybe one of our Japanese members can help.

The Parkerised finish certainly looks nice on the XM177 doesn't it?
I wonder if Marushin have sorted out the poor screw thread on the butt stock tube by now? I recall having great difficulty tidying the thread up using grinding paste just to get the butt tube to screw into the receiver.
I wasn't the only one to experience this problem assembling the kit if my memory serves me right.
With any luck, these factory models might even fire properly too...


Cerwyn

Post by MadMike

DENTrinity is now offering the factory assembled version of the XM177E2 and M16A1 for 312 USD each. Although this is not a new model, I am glad to see that the modelgun hobby is not dead at all

Modelguns-worldwide are offering them too now. You can see some nice pics there. Interesting is that they still offer a more expensive, "tuned" version where the modifications are done by them ...

Post by shazhib

I saw XM at the store.
I was bit dissapointed as to the color....I expected it to be little bit more grey...it is too green. Also, body painted in almost same color with mag....hmmmm.
Flash hider is made from plastic, not metal. I haven't touched it, so don't know how it feels, but heard a bolt moves slightly smoother that the one from kit.
shaz,

Post by MadMike

Thanks for the update! I wish I could walk into a modelgun shop here and check the various models out. Judging from the pics I too think the od/green finish is not very realistic. I would like a grey (parkerized) finish more. The finish of the magazines (Marushin and MGC) should be grey, not dark blue or od/green.


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"Coming Soon" could be anytime knowing Marushin's delivery promise dates but it's getting closer

The trouble with that is ...more than one forum user have mentioned a fault in the ABS receiver tube ( basically letting go) so I dont think the HW will last very well at all ( ABS being tougher than HW )

They may look nice to display and handle but may suffer badly from lots of use

A HW barrel and lower receiver may be nice though

DOC

Have to agree with you Doc, HW has a lot of problems and i doubt this 40 would last long but i would still like one, although as you say maybe a few HW parts put onto the ABS model would be a good way to go.