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PostSubject: Re: Difference between "Inert" and "Dummy" rounds?   Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:36 pm

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I think that modelguns wont supply parts to you if you haven't brought the gun from them.
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PostSubject: Re: Difference between "Inert" and "Dummy" rounds?   Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:36 pm

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8ace is correct, may last few requests to Jay were met with the same thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Difference between "Inert" and "Dummy" rounds?   Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:37 pm

Post by fivefive

oh that sux...

so who can i get those dummy rounds from??

Francky or shazib ???? do they do them? it's not on their website though ....
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PostSubject: Re: Difference between "Inert" and "Dummy" rounds?   Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:37 pm

Post by shazhib

fivefive,

The rounds you put the link on is from Kokusai. Kokusai has both firing and dummy rounds for 38 special. I think you can use mulberry one as well.

Why don't you send a PM to Francky. I'm sure he has one or source one for you.

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PostSubject: Re: Difference between "Inert" and "Dummy" rounds?   Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:38 pm

Post by fivefive

hey shazhib

so if i can get some Kokusai dummy rounds for 38 special, i can load them into the m10 and dry fire with it right???

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PostSubject: Re: Difference between "Inert" and "Dummy" rounds?   Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:38 pm

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hey guys, please help me out with this one please. Which dummy rounds should i get for my kokusai modelguns S&W m10 revolver?? as in which one of the following is more suitable?? thanks





thanks a lot,

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PostSubject: Re: Difference between "Inert" and "Dummy" rounds?   Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:39 pm

Post by shazhib

fivefive,

Could you be able to upload a photo of cylinder from front side? I want to see a shape of cylinder insert.

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PostSubject: Re: Difference between "Inert" and "Dummy" rounds?   Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:40 pm

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actually, you know the mulberry field rounds, at where the primer is, are they loose just like what the cartridge is doing???
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PostSubject: Re: Difference between "Inert" and "Dummy" rounds?   Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:40 pm

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it looks similar to this lol: -

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PostSubject: Re: Difference between "Inert" and "Dummy" rounds?   Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:41 pm

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oh crap, anyone know if it is true that the dummy rounds will also be loose at where the primer is?? just like those cartridges???

i hate those moving parts at they make sounds when you move the gun itself....

does it mean that i should get inert rounds instead of those dummy rounds then???

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PostSubject: Re: Difference between "Inert" and "Dummy" rounds?   Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:41 pm

Post by ricks

The way the laws are going, I wouldn't want to carry that around even in the US - good chance of getting arrested, shot...

BTW - if a few zealous anti-gunners got together for golf, could that be considered a "DUMMY ROUND?"
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PostSubject: Re: Difference between "Inert" and "Dummy" rounds?   Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:42 pm

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fivefive,

mulberry's dummy round has fixed primer, in other words, it is not a separate parts from a buttom of cartridge. You can insert mulberry's dummy in to Kokusai cylinder (the one as in your photo, "small insert cylinder"), but it is a little bit tighter than that of authentic Kokusai cartridge come with the gun. I don't know if Kokusai model can take dummy from a real cartridge.

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PostSubject: Re: Difference between "Inert" and "Dummy" rounds?   Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:43 pm

Post by fivefive

yes, the m10 can take inert rounds just fine

anyway, have u guys tried the speedloader??

Do you think that mulberry's dummy round will be heavier than Kokusai model cartridge??

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PostSubject: Re: Difference between "Inert" and "Dummy" rounds?   Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:43 pm

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fivefive,

Here is some photo of the rounds.

From the top to buttom, Kokusai firing rounds, Kokusai dummy rounds and mulberry dummy rounds


Kokousai firing rounds has live inner piston which is not pressd to stay, makes a rattle noize


Kokusai dummy rounds, no primer parts.


Mulberry rounds. Although I said it is a one piece rim the other day, actually, it is a separate parts. But inner spring is quite strong, inner piston is pushed towards rim storngly so that it won't make that annoying rattle noise.


You can use a speedloader with Kokusai K-frame revolver. My M19 with HKS speedloader.


A look from buttom of mulberry rounds.


From front


Hope this will helps.

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PostSubject: Re: Difference between "Inert" and "Dummy" rounds?   Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:15 pm

Post by fivefive

wow, thanks a lot great pics, anyway, may i ask which one of them are the heaviest???

Kokusai firing rounds, Kokusai dummy rounds or mulberry dummy rounds ??
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PostSubject: Re: Difference between "Inert" and "Dummy" rounds?   Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:17 pm

Post by shazhib

I would say, there isn't much of difference, to be honest.
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