Loading MGC type Cartridges

LOADlNG MGC C.P. TYPE CARTRIDGES.


Your modelgun will only function correctly if your cartridges are prepared and loaded correctly. This is intended as a Step by Step guide on how to do this.
Cleaning of used cartridges will be dealt with in a seperate article...

First of all, unscrew the cap from the cartridge and empty the case of it's components.



Tools required are

1. Loading tool 2. Cotton Bud (Q-Tip) 3. Small Brush.
Mascara brushes are ideal for this! Get your Girlfriend, Wife, Mother or just go yourself to the nearest Make Up shop and borrow sample brushes (Debenhams are ideal )



Silicone or Lithium based grease make perfect lubricants



The all important Cap, in this case Marushin 7mm



Check that all the parts are present... Cartridge case, Primer, Cap, Piston, Cartridge Top...



Step 1. Run the mascara brush through the cartridge case and over the threads to ensure cleanliness



Step 2. Dip the Cotton Bud in either only a little Silicone Oil or WD40 and smear the inside of the catridge bore. This aids lubrication and gives a little extra smoke effect too.



Step 3. Place the "Primer" into the cartridge, smaller diameter in first



Step 4. Squeeze a little grease from the tube, this much should be plenty, and smear it over the outside edges of the cap. DO NOT smear grease onto the powder charge in the cap.



Step 5. Place the cap into the cartridge, powder charge facing up



N.B. Faulty caps are sometimes found. If the "charge" falls away from the plastic cap like this, discard it as it will not ignite correctly.

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Step 6. Push the cap down to the base of the cartridge using the loading tool.



Step 7. Ensure that the "Primer" lies flush with the base of the cartridge when the cap has been pushed into place



Step 8. Smear a little grease around the rubber 0-Ring on the piston. Check the 0-ring for splits or cracks. Damaged rings will not seal correctly and must be renewed.

Step 9. Making sure the firing pin of the piston is grease free,



position it into the cartridge like this and push gently until it sits flush with the top of the threads.




Step 10. Screw the cartridge's top into place,

 


and there you go,



ready to move onto the next one


Ref: https://mp40modelguns.forumotion.net/t927-beginner-s-guide-to-cleaning-cartridges
Cleaning Cartridges

Cerwyn








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MadMike
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That is a great step-to-step explanation! Thank you very much for this, it will not only help all beginners, it is good for old-hands too I am sure. I can tell you about faulty caps too! At first I tried to use them anyway, but with bad results as they almost never ignite properly. So I ditch them when the filler falls out.
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Thank you very much MadMike! I'm glad you like it and hope a section like this will be worthwhile for Beginners and old hands alike.

I intend tackling Marushin 9mm and 5.56mm cartridges next in the same format.

I would like to try Step by Step guides for Cleaning and preparing cartridges and then onto stripping and cleaning specific model guns next.

What do you think?

I don't pretend to know everything, God knows I don't! so if anybody spots a mistake, or has better methods, then please correct my errors.

I hope that many forum members will contribute to a section like this...

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That is great Cerwyn. Loads of pictures and step by step taking you through everything. I think that this is going to be a very handy section, especially for newer members, but as was mentioned also for those more familiar. The pictures really help with that 'ahh, so that is what I have been doing wrong!' scenario. Keep em coming.
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Thank you Spencerman, I'm glad you find these useful, I'll keep them coming then

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Last edited by cerwyn on Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:21 am; edited 2 times in total

Heyyyyyyyyyyy

Very nice introductions

Thank you they surely will help me!

But what exactly is that silicone stuff?
What's it usually for?
Where to buy?

At the moment I just can't imagine what it is in german and where to find...

Thanks for helping!

It is silicone grease. Some greases come in aerosol/spray (like Loctite 8021) and they are typically used for airsoft replicas. I most often use such a grease, as it is easiest to get. It works well, but does not stay very well on parts, and when spraying a lot gets sprayed around ;-)

This thick one is also silicone grease, but in paste. I had problems with this, too, as I could not find any "white lithium" or similar in my country. Later I found that it is grease used for bearings, it is called "lithium" or "white lithium" and there are different companies that produce it. You can find a list of some American producers on this website and see if they are available in Germany. I think that if you look for various Schmiermittels on ebay.de or Amazon.de you should find from description if there is silicone or lithium paste.
http://www.lithiumgrease.com/

thanks

if you find it in poland, i should find it in germany too

i mean we are neighbors and your products shouldnt be that different...
well at least i think so...

I searched for such a grease today but just couldnt find anything... employees just had no idea what kind of grease i search...
what is it usually used for? Why exactly do "normal" people buy somehting like that and what do they use it?
Is it for making things slippery, slithery? Or making those rubber rings expand?



Next thing is:
I have those 9mm wa shan cartridges of the M9
https://mp40modelguns.forumotion.net/modelgun-reviews-f4/wa-shan-m9-dolphin-t323.htm

Those cartridges are very similar
Do I load them the same way as MGC?
and does this little part with the rubber ring that you smear full of grease with the tip that points onto the open cap actually have to TOUCH the cap (powder side) ?

Hi BadBean

If all else fails, you can get the same grease I use here:

The grease is to lubricate the 0-ring and allow it to slide and slither smoothly within the cartridge body. The piston part the 0-ring's fitted to is pushed hard against the cap by the gun's detonatr pin, then has to slide easily back against gas pressure to produce blow-back.
Any undue friction here can cause poor firing and blowback.

The grease acts as a secondary seal too, but it also needs to burn as cleanly as possible. This particular grease used sparingly, seems to work well.

Load WaShan cartridges as the MGC type. Place the piston flush with the top of the threads. The gun's det.pin will push it into the cap.

If all else fails... try Wales...

Just kidding, thats what my english teacher always said (he is from wales)

In my case: If all else fails try ebay^^
what else...

Thanks for the link
Just bought it. Wanted to have it NOW but well... I have to wait ^^

BadBean wrote:

If all else fails... try Wales...

Just kidding, thats what my english teacher always said (he is from wales)

In my case: If all else fails try ebay^^
what else...

Thanks for the link
Just bought it. Wanted to have it NOW but well... I have to wait ^^

No problem, once you recieve it, try an electrical specialist retailer, take the grease in to show them and they'll probably have an equivelent for you 'Bean.

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