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kevin dangerously
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PostSubject: Marushin Browning Hi-Power HW   Marushin Browning Hi-Power HW Icon_minitimeWed Apr 22, 2009 7:06 am

I just got a Browning Hi-Power form Den-Trinity and the first thing I noticed is that the trigger took a lot of pressure to release the hammer at the end of the pull. I thought this is just the way the Browning is but whats happening now is that the trigger mechanism is actually pushing up on the slide so hard that the slide dislodges from the frame after a couple of pulls of the trigger. This was from pulling the hammer back and then pulling the trigger. I have not actually fired it yet.

Has anybody experienced this or other wierd trigger mechanism stuff with this model?
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PostSubject: Re: Marushin Browning Hi-Power HW   Marushin Browning Hi-Power HW Icon_minitimeWed Apr 22, 2009 5:14 pm

Kevin,

That sounds something wrong with your HP.
The trigger pull for Marushin HP is fairly light, shouldn't be that heavy and do not need to pull so many times.
I wonder if a bar thing, attached to the end of trigger, sit in a wrong way?
I suggest to take a slide off, take a photo and label here.
I or somebody can help.

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PostSubject: Re: Marushin Browning Hi-Power HW   Marushin Browning Hi-Power HW Icon_minitimeSat Jun 06, 2009 9:05 pm

I returned the Browning to DEN and they sent me a new one. Unfortunately the replacement has the same problem. Well, the trigger doesn't cause the slide to dislodge but I test fired it and it did dislodge. It must be a design defect with Marushin.

The only idea I can come up with is to glue a thin piece of plastic to the left side of the frame so that the right side of the slide is more snug.

I'll try to get a photo up soon.
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PostSubject: Re: Marushin Browning Hi-Power HW   Marushin Browning Hi-Power HW Icon_minitimeWed Jun 24, 2009 9:11 pm

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my camera sucks, but this is what the slide looks like when it pops off.
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PostSubject: Re: Marushin Browning Hi-Power HW   Marushin Browning Hi-Power HW Icon_minitimeThu Jun 25, 2009 9:57 am

Hi Kev,

It's a bit difficult to tell what's happening from your photo but it does sound, as shazhib suggests, that the trigger mechanism is fouling the slide somewhere.
You mentioned that the trigger is heavy to pull and that it seems to dislodge the slide even when dry firing. If the slide can be seen moving up or sideways whilst you squeeze the trigger I'd take a careful look at how that mechanism is sitting. It shouldn't be pushing against the slide at all.

During firing, the slide's blown back so quicky and with considerable force it's possible it's riding over the obstruction knocking it off it's guide rails.

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PostSubject: Re: Marushin Browning Hi-Power HW   Marushin Browning Hi-Power HW Icon_minitimeThu Jun 25, 2009 10:33 am

kevin dangerously wrote:
my camera sucks, but this is what the slide looks like when it pops off.
Try taking picture from a larger distance. Cameras usually have a certain minimum below which they would not focus properly. For your Sony this is 50cm. If something is closer, camera will ignore it and find another area to focus on.

However, if you switch the camera to "Macro" mode, camera starts to look for closer objects, and minimum distance is reduced to just 6cm.
Also do not use "zoom" for closeup photos as it increases minimum distance even more - zoom out completely. Keep about a hand's length (~20cm) between camera and object, it should help.
"Macro" mode is activated by button with flower ("up" direction). If you press it, you will see onscreen at upper left side a flower icon (macro, focus on very near objects), mountain icon (landscape photography, focus on infinity and ignore anything close) or empty (automatic focus with 50cm minimum).

Regardless of the distance, cameras need a bit of help to properly focus. Most compact cameras can only focus if you have a vertical edge (different colours or a line) somewhere near center of the screen. If the surface is uniform or has horizontal lines it won't work. With horizontal lines you can always rotate camera, focus (half-press) then rotate back (carefully keeping similar distance) and take the picture properly focused.

It is practically the same method for many other cameras.

Hope it helps Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Marushin Browning Hi-Power HW   Marushin Browning Hi-Power HW Icon_minitimeFri Jun 26, 2009 6:01 am

Cerwyn wrote:
Hi Kev,

It's a bit difficult to tell what's happening from your photo but it does sound, as shazhib suggests, that the trigger mechanism is fouling the slide somewhere.
You mentioned that the trigger is heavy to pull and that it seems to dislodge the slide even when dry firing. If the slide can be seen moving up or sideways whilst you squeeze the trigger I'd take a careful look at how that mechanism is sitting. It shouldn't be pushing against the slide at all.

During firing, the slide's blown back so quicky and with considerable force it's possible it's riding over the obstruction knocking it off it's guide rails.

Yeah I'm sure its the trigger mechanism. I just have no idea how to fix it.

It seems that the Browning trigger mechanism is based on applying plessure to the trigger which pushes into a lever in the slide, which in turn pushes down on the hammer release on the back of the frame. This hammer release needs so much pressure as to slip off the hammer itself.

It would work if the trigger release didnt require so much pressure to slip off. Instead of slipping, the pressure gets stuck in lever in the slide, forcing the slide upwards.

Maybe I could file down the hammer so it slips more easily?
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PostSubject: Re: Marushin Browning Hi-Power HW   Marushin Browning Hi-Power HW Icon_minitimeFri Jun 26, 2009 6:43 pm

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Ahh macro did work, thanks smootik. Usually it does go a little soft so I didnt even think of that.
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PostSubject: Re: Marushin Browning Hi-Power HW   Marushin Browning Hi-Power HW Icon_minitimeFri Jun 26, 2009 8:16 pm

Those are much better photos Exclamation Very Happy That'll give the pistol experts here something to work on now Wink

I'm glad of those tips myself too smootik, thanks mate

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PostSubject: Re: Marushin Browning Hi-Power HW   Marushin Browning Hi-Power HW Icon_minitimeWed Jul 08, 2009 2:26 am

Any ideas guys? Anything look backwards?
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