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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090 Age : 65 Location / Country : North Wales Registration date : 2008-07-20
| Subject: Most Accurate MP5??? Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:36 am | |
| Post by Spencerman I was wondering what is the most accurately reproduced MP5 replica, firing or not? I have seen many airsoft electric versions that are completely off when it comes to the ejection port. Plastic guns, off when it comes to the ejection port. MGC gas blowback MP5k, off when it comes to the ejection port. I saw a picture in the background of http://www.gunsnguys.com/home_ie5_1024.htm website of an MP5k and the ejection port looks spot on. I wondered if this was a Maruzen gas blow back gun, as I have not yet seen one of these properly yet. I would like to know, as I need one for display, and the ejection port is visable, and I am afraid that if I know that it is not right, then it is not good enough for me. The ejection port being so very wrong on MP5 "replicas" has long been something that has really pissed me off, especially when they claim to be 100% realistic, or 1:1 real gun detail, and yet this one thing seems to always be wrong. What is wrong with these people, are they blind??? That is like painting a volvo red and calling it a Ferarri. Any suggestions? _________________ | |
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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090 Age : 65 Location / Country : North Wales Registration date : 2008-07-20
| Subject: Re: Most Accurate MP5??? Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:37 am | |
| Post by Reemo Maruzen is not a good replica H&K.
Classic Army all metal H&K line is better but not great - depends on the models. Some are closer than other - they use the same lower on everything which is wrong.
MARUI has great copies but is all plastic. (Creaky cheap feeling).
JAC made some great copies (especially the often ignored Navy lower and grip) but unfortunately are ALL plastic.
The winner?? KSC makes an HK33 (retractible stock) which has blued pressed steel mags (!!) is ALL METAL and is PERFECT in person......the gun is only medicore as an AEG, but as a replica it slays! Feels great in your hand.
PS>.........that MP5K in the photo you saw on G&G site is a MARUI. _________________ "This is your life......and its ending one minute at a time." | |
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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090 Age : 65 Location / Country : North Wales Registration date : 2008-07-20
| Subject: Re: Most Accurate MP5??? Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:40 am | |
| Post by Reemo I'm partial to the Armalite family, however this is a custom Mp5K "Navy seals stretch" model that I built for somebody. Its a very modular weapon.......The silencer unscrews, and you can pull the full stock off with 2 speed clips - and it's right back to the concealable Mp5K - just reintsall the sling end cap. It was based on a Marui - the rest is lots of custom work including machining the stock adapter. _________________ "This is your life......and its ending one minute at a time." | |
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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090 Age : 65 Location / Country : North Wales Registration date : 2008-07-20
| Subject: Re: Most Accurate MP5??? Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:41 am | |
| Post by Spencerman I think that I have found it! The most accurate MP5 would seem to be the new G&G MP5A4, available from uncompany. It has an opening ejection port (apparently the hop up switch is contained inside). This is the sort of thing that I was after (I think). There is also a new classic army version that seems to do the same, but it has a stupid laser etched logo on the right of the magazine well, which is a definate big no no for me. I also do not like the large flash surpressor that is on it, which also makes the G&G version more appealing as it can be removed rather easily from the looks of things. Now, I had a couple of questions and figured that the airsofters out there would probably be able to answer them for me. Firstly, it would appear that the G&G version doesnt have trademarks (nothing too new there for mp5 copies). Could anyone confirm this for me? Second, I already have an ics model MP5 A5, and I prefer the retractible stock, so I would be looking at simply swapping that over with the fixed stock on the G&G A4 version, but I believe that this is where the battery is stored on this gun, not in the front foregrip? Can this be changed easily or not? _________________ | |
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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090 Age : 65 Location / Country : North Wales Registration date : 2008-07-20
| Subject: Re: Most Accurate MP5??? Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:42 am | |
| Post by Reemo G&G has no real trademarks - on any of their guns.
Even worse? They stamp each gun with the motto......"G&G - Capital of greedy Island".....retarded.
If G&G did some REAL licensed trades, they would be in busness - most guys wont touch a G&G gun........no trades and horrible gearboxes (BIG recall on G&G boxes last year) are their downfall. _________________ "This is your life......and its ending one minute at a time." | |
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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090 Age : 65 Location / Country : North Wales Registration date : 2008-07-20
| Subject: Re: Most Accurate MP5??? Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:42 am | |
| Post by Spencerman That sounds rather dissapointing, although I cannot see any stampings on the gun at all. Is that stupid logo thing definately on this gun? If so, where abouts would I likely see it? You can see that the pictures of it on uncompany do look pretty good. Do you think that the classic army version is better then? Because they have a stupid B&T logo laser etched on the side of the frame, which just makes it look a little like a toy to me. Here are a couple of sites that shows a couple of detailed images of the G&G version, and still I cannot see any stamps: http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=26332 http://www.specshop.pl/product_info.php?products_id=1261_________________ | |
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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090 Age : 65 Location / Country : North Wales Registration date : 2008-07-20
| Subject: Re: Most Accurate MP5??? Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:43 am | |
| Post by Illuminati The new CA B&T MP5 may be quite accurate, but im not sure myself. | |
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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090 Age : 65 Location / Country : North Wales Registration date : 2008-07-20
| Subject: Re: Most Accurate MP5??? Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:44 am | |
| Post by LDR Just bought a second hand TM Mp5K, not got it yet. Though i was told that these airsoft have no kickback at all? Was just reading about the MGC gas/battery MP5K, and wondering if that had any kickback? Also i've been told that this gun is very noisey...just wanted something with a little kickback and noise!
Any opinions?
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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090 Age : 65 Location / Country : North Wales Registration date : 2008-07-20
| Subject: Re: Most Accurate MP5??? Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:44 am | |
| Post by Claymore I thinkl the TM mp5k is a great little gun, not much kickback but it makes a great noise and fires at a hell of a rate of notes. If you want total realsim you are not going to get it from this model but it still looks great to me and as i say fires very fast and rips up paper targets with a lot of noise. Great fun to shoot. | |
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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090 Age : 65 Location / Country : North Wales Registration date : 2008-07-20
| Subject: Re: Most Accurate MP5??? Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:46 am | |
| Post by Reemo Guys take a look at the newly reissued YE (Youth Engineering - YE was a company that went out of business over 10 years ago) MP5 with Escort Gas Blowbck system....they are taking preorders this month (Redwolf etc).......it costs roughly 499.99 US dollars. The advantages? Realistic.....all metal body........and the ESCORT gas system!! REAL recoil, full blowback with every shot. (The Marui MP5K and all electrics have ZERO kickback and dismal rate of fire with that tiny pencil battery) The YE is fed from an external power/air supply.........like a paintball rig.......the hose comes out the bottom of the pistol grip. This would be the most realistic MP5 experience in the model gun world for sure. Cant wait to finally shoot one. PS... IGNORE the low fps rating on various web sites - the Escort system is 100% adjustible - my MP44 with the Escort System now hits nearly 600fps in semi auto. Yet I can bring the pressure down and its under 300fps. Pics of YE reissue with NEW escort system...(Old system was NOT the same blowback). _________________ "This is your life......and its ending one minute at a time." | |
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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090 Age : 65 Location / Country : North Wales Registration date : 2008-07-20
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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090 Age : 65 Location / Country : North Wales Registration date : 2008-07-20
| Subject: Re: Most Accurate MP5??? Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:47 am | |
| Post by Reemo If they arent taking preorders yet, then wait a few......its being reissued with the NEW escort system.....Escort is busy right now getting ready for LOTS of reissues (and some new guns) with the full blowback system in it (Like the SHOEI guns).......expect an AK with the new escort system too! They are all due out (one at a time) this summer, through the Fall. _________________ "This is your life......and its ending one minute at a time." | |
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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090 Age : 65 Location / Country : North Wales Registration date : 2008-07-20
| Subject: Re: Most Accurate MP5??? Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:48 am | |
| Post by jay851hi guys i have a mgc mp5k pdw and i think its a great little gun.it does have a noticable kick and the noise is good as it is gas.the pdw version is better than the mp5k version as it was redesigned and also has hop.range is good and weight is o.k as the stock is metal.i am currently selling it at the moment if anyone is interested. Ultra rare mgc mp5k pdw airsoft smg.these have not been made for some time now and are quite hard to get hold of.it is a gas/electric hybrid which means bb's are loaded into the breech using an electric motor which runs off of 4 x aa batteries in the cocking tube,and thev bb's are powered out of the barrel by the gas which is in the mag.the feeding mechanism gives a bit of recoil and the gun has hop to give it good range.it has a nice weight to it as the stock is made of metal. jay _________________ currently own: hudson m3a1 greasegun mgc early type open barrel thompson smg kokusai s&w military/police 4" bull barrel cheers jay _________________ currently own: hudson m3a1 greasegun mgc early type open barrel thompson smg kokusai s&w military/police 4" bull barrel | |
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