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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Sep 29, 2008 6:27 pm

Reading about this makes me want an AK, but one that works like 8aces will.
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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Sep 29, 2008 7:44 pm

Spencer-Man wrote:
Reading about this makes me want an AK, but one that works like 8aces will.

Very Happy I think that modelgun owners across the World reading this will want one when they see 8ace's working Smile Smile

I wouldn't mind betting Hudson offer him a job cheers Exclamation

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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Sep 30, 2008 8:21 am

Hmmmm modelgun design consultant..... Any idea what the salary is for that Very Happy


I shall hopefully know by the end of the week if it all works and I hope it does for her sake as it could be a date with Mr hacksaw if she doesn’t Mad

Fingers crossed

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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Oct 22, 2008 9:50 am

I am really impressed by your work and skills! I remember some nice modifications and custom guns you have made in the past, but this is really outstanding. Keep up the excellent work.
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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun Oct 26, 2008 3:13 pm

Many thanks for the words of encouragement Very Happy  it has been needed as it hasn’t been as straight forward as I first thought.

I thought I’d show the difference between the old and new type mags.

As you can see the new and old Hudson mags are quite a bit different and have gone back to using thin steel. I have a feeling that Hudson used real AK mags and replaced the springs as they seem identical to known real AK mags


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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun Oct 26, 2008 3:21 pm

Success at last bounce  bounce  bounce  bounce

After much tweaking she finally works.

Sadly I only have a 14 of rounds but I have put them through 3 times with 1 jam and 1 misfire

I had to make some major changes.

1: Use 1x7mm cap (with longer det pin)
2: Remove the auto sear
3: Change the mag follower for old type
4: Add a spacer to strengthen the main spring

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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun Oct 26, 2008 6:49 pm

GIMME Exclamation ,GIMME Exclamation ,GIMME Exclamation I want it now Very Happy Very Happy

Yet again a superb conversion,and now its working as they were meant too.

Perfect Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Oct 27, 2008 1:21 pm

Excellent, Excellent 8ace that has to be the only AK that works maybe you should have a word with Hudson and give them some advice.
By the way kickback, LOOK INTO MY EYES LOOK INTO MY EYES you dont want the AK you want to give it to me Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 05, 2008 7:59 pm

CONGRATULATIONS 8ACE cheers cheers cheers

Well done mate, that looks fantastic now Very Happy All your hard graft has paid off Exclamation


So what's it feel like having the ONLY fully functioning Hudson AK47 on the Planet Question

You must be over the moon mate and I'll bet the calls for tuning and parts will come flooding in now Very Happy Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Nov 06, 2008 8:26 am

It was great until Kickback came round and mugged me Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Nov 06, 2008 3:47 pm

Did you get any more video before Kickback pinched it Question Question Question

You're too modest an'all, you did a fantastic job getting that AK to work. Just think there isn't ANYONE, ANYWHERE that's managed that to our knowledge... not even Hudson Exclamation

Let's hope Kickback gives us a treat of several magfulls blatting away... are you listening Kickback boyo Question Don't you go hiding that under your bed now....

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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Nov 07, 2008 8:00 am

No sadly I didn't get anymore vids done No but kickback is hopefully getting some more rounds to see what it does with a full mag Very Happy

It's not (MGC Thompson firing) perfect as it still has the odd extract issue and I was disappointed that the auto sear addition didn't work Exclamation (might need a lighter bolt assy) but I’m pleased with the results.

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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Nov 22, 2008 9:36 pm

Congratulations mate, that really is a nice job there. What magazine did you use in the end, the old Hudson one, the new Hudson one, or a real one??
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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun Nov 23, 2008 1:17 pm

Cheers cheers

Sadly the new aluminium rounds will only fit the new Hudson mags so using real ones is out. I did use the follower from the real/Hudson old one (not sure which one it came from now) as the new Hudson mag follower seemed to boat about a bit

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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Apr 01, 2009 7:22 pm

Been working on another AK modification which I have finally finished Very Happy

I have changed a few things from the first one by making the trunnion/bolt/bolt carrier from scratch to sort out the eject/feed problems

With the trunnion I have tried to fill as much of the space around the chamber so the rounds have nowhere else to go but into the chamber

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The bolt is a two part unit (similar to the original AK one) but with the bolt face extended to fit the trunnion, also the extractor is more inline with the ejection port.

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Here it is shown with the bolt closed

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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Apr 01, 2009 9:25 pm

mate what can i say, i go on holiday and come back feeling depressed that i have to go back to work and then i watch this vid and i feel happy again Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy . Excellent work though excellent is just not a descriptive enough word for the work and skill you have put into this AK not only does it fire extremly well but it sounds superb, i really think Hudson should offer you a job.
brilliant work mate brilliant
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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Apr 02, 2009 10:35 am

Fantastic cheers

Impressive isn't near enough to describe the work you've put into this 'ace.

errrmmm, anybody got an AK47 they want to sell Question I think I'd like one now there's a man that can get them working Wink

Which cartridges did you use on this one 'ace Question The brass ones or the new Aluminium type Question

I know what you mean Claymore, looking at these photos and the vid has cheered me up this moning too and it's not even my gun Laughing


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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Apr 02, 2009 11:48 am

Cheers guys,

I'm very pleased with how it turned out (wasn't to sure if my design would work). It uses the aluminium rounds which do help the ejection but I’m only using 1x7mm cap and not the normal 2x7mm with brass spacer as supplied from Hudson.

Oh I forgot to mention that I have used the original Hudson (zinc) hammer and hammer spring but I did add a steel insert into the hammer similar to the earlier one I did, also I have not added the auto sear.

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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Apr 02, 2009 12:01 pm

It goes to show how much more efficient your design is if the rounds only need a single cap to produce such smooth firing Exclamation

What you need to do now is borrow Kickbacks' aluminium rounds and you'll have a mag'full to demonstrate with Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Apr 02, 2009 1:55 pm

Well guys I will be round 8ace's house in a few hours to play with the new design AK myself Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy ,Sorry Claymore Wink but if its better than mine...well your's may go missing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Yet more great work from our own Modelgun Master what more could our forum ask for Very Happy ,give it up for 8ace cheers cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 03, 2009 4:18 am

That is outstanding!
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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 03, 2009 11:05 am

Well guys the new AK design was as good as we thought it would be and it works great Very Happy Very Happy ,another great job from 8ace Very Happy Very Happy ,but sorry to say claymore.....its mine now!! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil i've nicked it!! Wink

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Can I play with it too Question

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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 03, 2009 4:42 pm

Awesome work, if you have the time, can we please see some before and after pics??

Really awesome!
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PostSubject: Re: Hudson AK47 Project   Hudson AK47 Project - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun Apr 05, 2009 3:18 pm

No problem 2sharp Very Happy

Here's a before picture
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And here's an after picture
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