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Cerwyn
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BadBean
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| Subject: Re: Hudson Mad Max Sawed Off Shotgun - Hammer mechanism seems not to work  Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:52 am | |
| Sorry for taking me so long... so here is a picture of the barrel I marked the spot where you can set a screw wrench and push it upwards the first milimeter are pretty hard but push strongly and then the rest is very easy. then you've got the metal bar from the inside in your hand. just remove the two screws and you can remove the pins. ready to clean!  | |
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Cerwyn
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BadBean
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| | Subject: Re: Hudson Mad Max Sawed Off Shotgun - Hammer mechanism seems not to work Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:38 am | |
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BadBean
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| | Subject: Re: Hudson Mad Max Sawed Off Shotgun - Hammer mechanism seems not to work Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:39 am | |
| Oh my f* gosh!
Those are huge!!!
Sorry for that but... at least now you can see EVERYTHING haha | |
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Cerwyn
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| | Subject: Re: Hudson Mad Max Sawed Off Shotgun - Hammer mechanism seems not to work Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:53 am | |
| - BadBean wrote:
- Oh my f* gosh!
Those are huge!!!
Sorry for that but... at least now you can see EVERYTHING haha Life-size photos  Thanks very much BadBean, I'll put something together with these over the next day or two. Thank you for your valuable contribution, this is the first Guide to Shotgun Detonator Pin we've had here, it'll be very useful
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BadBean
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| | Subject: Re: Hudson Mad Max Sawed Off Shotgun - Hammer mechanism seems not to work Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:14 pm | |
| I am glad i could help  | |
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BadBean
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| | Subject: Re: Hudson Mad Max Sawed Off Shotgun - Hammer mechanism seems not to work Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:05 pm | |
| And again I need help
Well testing the MadMax again and wasting lot of caps...
I realized not all of the three caps detonated. Two handed or single handed. Doesn't matter.
Mostly only one or two caps detonated, sometimes none.
Cocking it again and simply pulling the trigger again made the rest of the caps fire (mostly)
Do the MadMax owners know that problem? | |
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Cerwyn
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| | Subject: Re: Hudson Mad Max Sawed Off Shotgun - Hammer mechanism seems not to work Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:03 pm | |
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Make sure all your caps are dry. Any dampness from either water or oil will cause them to fail to fire.
However, if only one of three fires at the first try, but subsequent pulls of the trigger work, I'd guess that maybe the caps aren't pushed into the cartridge to exactly the same depth.
The cap sitting closest to the detonator will fire first time, the second attempt fires the next etc.
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smootik
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| | Subject: Re: Hudson Mad Max Sawed Off Shotgun - Hammer mechanism seems not to work Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:46 pm | |
| - BadBean wrote:
- Do the MadMax owners know that problem?
Yup, wrote this on the first page: - smootik wrote:
- problem with three caps is that (at least in my model) they do not fire all at the same time. Usually only one or at most two caps in a cartridge go BOOM. It is quite loud even with just one ;-)
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Mortimer
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| | Subject: Re: Hudson Mad Max Sawed Off Shotgun - Hammer mechanism seems not to work Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:36 pm | |
| - smootik wrote:
- three prongs inside each barrel. They seem to be the same size/depth, but it's not easy to measure them precisely.
- cartridge bottom (flat, middle gets hit by ...uhm... the hammer).
- cartridge top, with three caps installed. The are pushed inside fully, after shooting they require a needle-like tool to pull them out. Trying to pull out a live cap is not the best idea - when I stupidly tried to remove them for storage, the first exploded in my face. Fortunately I always wear glasses (just in case), and cap was pointing parallel to my face. Still, from about 30cm distance (15 inches for those of you on Islands
 ) I did feel the heat.
- broken shotgun, you can see two holes through which hammers will jump out.
- broken shotgun, top cartridge is properly sitted, bottom one does not have caps aligned to prongs.
- disassembled bottom grip (left) and barrel underside (right). This shows two protruding areas on grip face which are what cocks hammers via two silver "thingies" (I always run out of proper English words for such parts).
When cocking you need to push real hard, until you hear two consecutive clicks - this corresponds to two hammers.
As you can see from my other photo in Hudson thread, there is not enough clearance, parts touch and pot metal chips off from underside.
  
 
 What a great post! Thanks, this is really helpful. | |
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Mortimer
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| | Subject: Re: Hudson Mad Max Sawed Off Shotgun - Hammer mechanism seems not to work Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:55 pm | |
| - BadBean wrote:
- I'm only into weapons, because I am such a Film Freak!
So, I'm not the only one. | |
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Mortimer
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| | Subject: Re: Hudson Mad Max Sawed Off Shotgun - Hammer mechanism seems not to work Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:10 pm | |
| www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6uvIy1YdFQ - BadBean wrote:
- The shotgun in the video is almost exactly the one I have!
Exept for his shotgun got a metal body, I believe its very rare to find. Anyone knows about this metal body Mad Max shotgun? Did Hudson also produce metal body version, or some other company also has "Mad Max" shotgun (with metal body), or maybe this is someone's home made unique version? | |
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smootik
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| | Subject: Re: Hudson Mad Max Sawed Off Shotgun - Hammer mechanism seems not to work Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:34 pm | |
| - Mortimer wrote:
- So, you need to break it hard to make it work... but with breaking it hard many times, it's getting damaged?
The piece of edge that is missing fell off at the first time - because I had to "break" shotgun further after these parts touched. It does not seem to damage again, as there is more space between pieces now after you "break" it. Surface is quite brittle though. As for the metal one - I do not know that Hudson made them. Perhaps someone used metal barrels from this airsoft version (not Hudson afaik) to make custom version: http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_info.php?products_id=25041 | |
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BadBean
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| | Subject: Re: Hudson Mad Max Sawed Off Shotgun - Hammer mechanism seems not to work Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:43 pm | |
| The one in the video looks very much like a hudson.
I think once I saw one at jpctrade.com
The barrels a plastic and I believe the body too, just with a metal finish. | |
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