A.C.G P.BERETTA M92FS

Happy new year.

It is M92FS of A.C.G(AMERICAN COLLECTORS GROUP) obtained recently.
Has an overseas mania seen the actual thing?
The slide, the frame, and the barrel are made of HW. From the beginning to made of steel parts



Because the hole of the firing pin had not penetrated, the hole was produced and the firing pin was produced with the stainless steel open material though the breech-block was made of the zinc alloy.
The ejector has been exchanged made of MGC shape good.

wataru

This is a beautiful looking modelgun wataru.

I am not familiar with the American Collector's Group, was this M92 a dummy replica gun made by ACG

Have you converted their non-firing model into a Cap Firing PFC version

I have not heard of them either, altough I was thinking that apart from the firing pin that it looked like the MGC model. What does the barrel look like at the muzzle end? Also, does it have the serial number on the hammer?

Hi wataru,

This is very interesting model. I do not think that ACG is very known here. Nice work on conversion :-)

Thanks to Francky I have this ACG Beretta as well...this is a deluxe version of Marushin 's dummy M92FS made with heavier HW material (at least what I reckon). The relation between ACG and Marushin is similar to Lexus and Toyota...

No serial number on the hammer like the M9 for the US Army...as the serial number for Wataru san's gun is "CO745" - mine is "CO301"...



The "extractor" turned purple and mine's no exception (if there's an answer for it...) and also the notorious parting line usually on Marushin's M92 mags have been removed...but still "Marushin" is stamped on the side of the mag instead of ACG...





Original dummy firing pin (back portion movable like some GBB pistols):




And not to forget the blocked barrel...



The markings started to fade and I've to do something about it...




Finally a suggestion here: better not to convert it to fire as the HW material used here are close to MGC's SRHW series so no way it can withstand the slide actions...

Cerwyn,

As Watar mentioned, ACG is technically Marushin. But some of model, sold through not is regular modelgun store, but in regular magazine as a memorial model (i.e. Franklin Mint or something you would find in regular new paper selling as a memorial model, WWII, John Wayen....).

Jim.

I think that is due to the extractor is not made from zinc, but steel kind by investment casting (we say Roast Waxing). After a lapse of time, it turned to purple of mid dark brown. That happens to 1st version of Hudson Garand which uses many of this Roast Waxing parts.

shaz

Thank you both Wataru and Shazhib for your explanation of A.C.G.

This is the first example I have seen, but by coincidence I found another one on Yahoo Japan Auction site today

More information can be found on the Purple colouring of steel parts here:

https://mp40modelguns.forumotion.net/modelgun-general-discussion-f1/purple-steel-finish-t1765.htm?highlight=purple

I can only says I hate the purple colour on the extractor (yes it's "extractor" I know - but why am I keep referring it as "ejector" when I type...

And I hate the finerprint streaks on it as well - I've better swap it asap...

Jim,

Will the fingerprint marks not polish out from the surface or has there been a permanent marking "etched" into the metal now

It's etched (permanent - and quite deep as well) and I don't think I can buff it without having the entire extractor deformed...

Jim,

I just noticed that Wataru's example also has the same "fingerprint" marking on the extractor

I notice it as well...so now a question: why did this happen on a so-called "Deluxe" model? Puzzling isn't it...

I think a giant's finger is needed to make such wide finger mark ...

I have the idea that it is markings from the milling process of the extractor or the milling of the mold for the cast part. I'm a tool and die maker by school and not trade, but to me it looks x-actly like those marks

I'm sure you're absolutely right there 2sharp. Milling marks from the die used to cast the extractor blanks would certainly explain why both extractors have almost identical marks.

I wonder if other Marushin Beretta M9 series models have this same marking

I've seen such marks on a recently produced Hudson Nanbu, except they are on a larger surface.
Definitely tooling marks, it's more obvious when you see more than extractor ;-)

I've several other Marushin Beretta pistols and none of it having these Milling Marks (i.e. plain smooth for others)...

Maybe this is what make this ACG M92FS special (like the misprinted banknotes/stamps)...

Wataru san,

What you reckoned before is right (i.e. these ACG Berettas were limited to domestic sales only) because I'd only bought this off from Francky another Japanese member here a couple of years ago...and mine's serial number started with "C" therefore missing out on some extras...

So for the Glock 19 conversion you used the externals of KSC "G19" and the internals of Tanaka "Clock 19" (no spelling mistake ) isn't it...if possible I think it's better to get the first batch of Glock 19 & 23C by Taiwan's KJ Works which carries authentic markings (saw it on Auction sometime ago - only the slide's in gold & the barrel blocked for pure blowback action)...

So now you'd reminded me that KSC used to have the slides of their Glock 19 in "G19" but then when they later released the "Blued Slide" version (G19スライドディープブルー) it has the authentic markings again (as shown in your pic)!

But still...the markings on the right of the frame remains as "Mil Spec Standard" instead of "Made In Austria"...

Can't wait to see the end product!