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Dronne
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PostSubject: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeFri Jan 13, 2012 11:01 pm

Hi everybody,
I apologize if this post is not at the rigth place, so the moderating team is free to move it where it needs.

Ok, i start :
I have a problem of delivery with Tokyo Toy Distribution's store.
Of course i guess that the order won't never be delivered.
So i wrote a mail to Mr Miki Nakamura, president.
Here it is, and i need to know if it's correctly written.

"Miki Nakamura
President
Tokyo Toy Distribution

Dear Sir,

Thursday, January 5, 2012, You wrote me that my order will be
shipped on or around Monday.
After looking my dashboard, on the "my account" page i had the surprise to see that the order was still "pending".
In the hope to have some explanations, Friday, January 13, 2012, i sent you an e-mail asking WHEN this order will be sent.
At this time i'm without any anwser from you.
I'm very disapointed, you've betrayed my trust.
Please cancel my order and send me back my money.

It's obvious that I will never again purchase from your store,
and that the comments that I will have, about Tokyo Central Hobbies, on the forums, will be far from complimentary.
It's also obvious that you have the frightfulest, the more lamentable customer's service i've ever seen.

Regards
François Failly"


Thank you for helping. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeSat Jan 14, 2012 6:27 am

That sucks, sorry to hear.



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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeSat Jan 14, 2012 10:05 am

Hi pitfighter,
Thank you for your solidarity. Wink
Fortunatly, i used Paypal, so, i'm sure to get my money back.
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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeSat Jan 14, 2012 10:40 am

Think you might be jumping the gun a bit Dronne, give the guy a week or so as there could be a simple explanation..

Mike
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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeSat Jan 14, 2012 11:19 am

Hi metradio,
I agree with you, it was my intention.
Just wanted to be sure that my mail was grammatically correct before sending.
Unfortunalty i read comments about this store, after ordering, so i'm not really quiet.

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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeSat Jan 14, 2012 11:42 am

This particular store, as well as several others run by the same individual, have an awful reputation for terrible service. Bad reports have appeared here and on several Airsoft forums.

One point to be very careful of, however, is that Paypal are extremely Anti-Gun in every shape and form. They are known to close accounts if gun related items, even magazines and parts, have been purchased using their transfer service.

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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeSat Jan 14, 2012 11:48 am

Hi Cerwyn,
Yes, i pay my lack of foresight.
Nevertheless, Paypal have accepted the transaction, the money has been tranfered.
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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeSat Jan 14, 2012 12:16 pm

Paypal will transfer payments using automated systems without difficulty, usually, but problems can arise when disputes are reported to them. It is at these times Paypal staff are involved and may realise that items paid for are Gun related.

Most of use use Paypal to pay for our Modelgun needs in reality BUT there have been many cases where Paypal have realised items paid for are not to their liking and customers accounts closed.

As an example, some time ago I bought a Marushin M16 magazine from a forum member and used Paypal to transfer payment. I received the magazine in perfect condition but a few days later the unfortunate seller's account had been closed by Paypal because he'd sold a Gun part. It took the poor guy a long time to convince them the magazine was for a Modelgun but even so Paypal kept his account closed for a long time. Fortunately for me, they left me alone BUT others have not been so lucky.

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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeSat Jan 14, 2012 12:17 pm

Shocked
I purchased deactivated weapons, and spare parts, and payed with Paypal, of course the sellers were in France, maybe it makes a difference?
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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeSat Jan 14, 2012 4:11 pm

Have just had a look at PayPal's help centre pages, it depends how you read it but seems that ALL firearms including deactivated guns are prohibited items at PayPal, anything else would depend on the buyer and sellers countries laws..

In the UK a firearm can be deactivated and in law it becomes a non gun, but PayPal say once a firearm always a firearm regardless of local law..

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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeSat Jan 14, 2012 4:31 pm

You're right.

I had no problems because i was not purchased in virtuals stores.
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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeSun Jan 15, 2012 5:23 pm


I've tidied up the English letter though, as he's Japanese, it probably doesn't matter.


親愛なる氏中村

木曜日2012年1月5日に、以下の私の順番は(...............................................)であることだったと教えてくれました
"月曜日にまたは前後'私に向けて出荷。
"私のアカウント"のページを見た後で私は、注文はまだ"保留"されていることに驚きました。
これを明確にするために見て私はあなたにこの順序で送信される頃求める金曜日2012年1月13日に電子メールを、送った。
この時点で私はまだあなたからの答えを持っていない。
私は非常に接触の欠如と残念だし、それゆえ私の注文をキャンセルして払い戻しをすることが私の支払いを要求します。
それは、私は再びあなたの店から購入することはないことは明らかです
と私はモデルガンのフォーラムで東京中央趣味について持っているコメントには、無料から遠くなること。
私の考えでは、私が今まで扱ってきた最も悲しむべきカスタマーサービスを持っている。

誠実に
フランソワFailly"

Dear Mr Nakamura

On Thursday January 5th 2012 you informed me that my order for ( insert your item and catalogue number) was to be
shipped to me 'on or around Monday'.
After looking at "my account" page I was surprised to see that the order was still "pending".
Looking to clarify this I sent you an e-mail on Friday January 13 2012, asking WHEN this order was to be sent.
At this time I have still had no answer from you.
I'm very disappointed with the lack of contact and will therefore cancel my order and ask for my payment to be reimbursed.
It's obvious that I will never again purchase from your store,
and that the comments that I will have about Tokyo Central Hobbies on the Model Gun forums will be far from complimentary.
In my opinion you have the most lamentable Customer Service I've ever dealt with.

Sincerely
François Failly"

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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeSun Jan 15, 2012 10:19 pm

Thank you lampwick
It's less heavy-going than mine Wink
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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeTue Jan 17, 2012 8:26 pm

Hi everybody,
After a mail to the Paypal's complaints department .
My parcel appears as "in shipping transit", with a tracking number.
Okay, it ends well, but i'll never purchase in this store!
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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeWed Jan 18, 2012 10:25 am

This is good news Dronne, you can now follow the progress of your parcel as it travels to you.

For future orders, you may wish to consider buying from the following list of dealers that we know are reliable and trustworthy.

www.plugfirecapgunsuk.com

www.franckys-modelgun.com

Shazhib (contact via PM through the forum)

www.dentrinity.com

Many of us, myself included, have made several purchases from each of these dealers and received excellent service

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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeWed Jan 18, 2012 12:12 pm

Hi Cerwyn,
It was a good lesson for me : even if the items purchased were less expensive, it was nervously really expensive! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeWed Jan 18, 2012 12:22 pm

Hi Dronne
Sound like some interesting experiences members have had!

Thought I'd add my experiences too:
1) With Paypal: I've had two modelgun transactions that I requested and got refunds for - one from the USA and one from the UK. In both cases I had paid money but the goods failed to arrive in a reasonable time. The UK transaction goods turned up 6 months later (Royal Mail had intercepted and sent the packed by sea because air delivery was prohibited - but never informed anyone). So I repaid the seller once the goods had arrived! sunny
I never mention the word gun - but I use "goods" - and legally that seems to avoid problems for me.


2) Re Tokyo Toys:
I ordered a Marushin MP40 magazine (as a spare) and the order was processed; after two weeks nothing had happened; three inquiries to sales dept. over the next week were ignored. What a Face
Finally I wrote to Miki himself suggesting that if I had no reply I would use my media business and networking with my American and Australian and New Zealand TV & Movie production associates to blacklist Tokyo Toys for any further purchasing movie gun props. bom
I got a reply the next day! Twisted Evil
With an apology and an explanation that they were out of stock and my magazine would be on its way as soon as possible. Three weeks later I had an email saying it was on its way with a tracking number.

It arrived 4 days later. cheers

I found Miki helpful and courteous, but got the impression that his business needed some staff re-training in the area of customer satisfaction.
Sounds like things have not changed any! Crying or Very sad

So you may have to wait for any reply.
But Miki WAS helpful once I got a personal contact from him.


Kiwigunner






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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeWed Jan 18, 2012 12:29 pm

Hi Kiwigunner,

Glad that it ends well for you too!
But never, never, neveeeeeeeer Toyo toys again! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeWed Jan 18, 2012 1:00 pm

It's unfortunate that all of Mr Miki Nakamura's replica gun dealerships have such a bad reputation for poor service. There have been a significant number of complaints posted here and in other Airsoft forums. It has to be said also that there have been a couple of Positive feedback reports about www.wwiiguns.com posted here too, but most do seem to be very negative.

Place orders with care seems to be the message, and stay with reputable dealers that are praised on the Forum regularly

Retail on-line shops linked to Mr. Nakamura are:

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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeWed Jan 18, 2012 1:01 pm

The black list!
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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeSat Jan 21, 2012 12:38 pm

Hi everybody!
At last, it's over!
I received my parcel this morning. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeSat Jan 21, 2012 1:00 pm


Good news: better late than never! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeSat Jan 21, 2012 4:04 pm

Choice, bro! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: About Tokyo Toy Distribution   About Tokyo Toy Distribution Icon_minitimeSun Jan 22, 2012 12:34 pm

That's great news, nothing better than a happy ending cheers

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