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JohnnyV
Modelgun Perfectionist
Number of posts : 552
Location / Country : Cambridgeshire UK
Registration date : 2009-08-24
 | Subject: HWS Liberator First impression review  Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:37 am | |
| Hi I have been playing The liberator........well.............I personally LOVE IT ! The box:  Inside the box: Nice copy of instructions that went with the "REAL" gun originally. Two wooden rods, one for ejecting the round, other for cleaning the breach.   The Carts (NB only come with one carts as standard):  Cart loaded with 5mm cap:  The model in your hand: Model is larger than I had thought, and for its size has a good weight/feel.   Some general photos:         Bigger than I imagined... heavier than I thought.... Designed to fire 7mm caps Firing performance, the odd missfire cured by a re-cock and try again, it seems to me to work best with 5mm caps.... I think some times the carts that have a hole in the centre of the det pin can be tempremental because of the hole..(if you imagine the hole much bigger it would only hit outside of charge in cap, so there is an "optimum" size that hol must not exceed) that said if a 5mm cap is used as in picture cap charge is contained better (same power in a 5mm and 7mm anyway!) (FYI sensitive part of charge is mainly in the dead centre of cap under other cap contents, you may see this sometimes when cap contents fall out of cap). Very good barrel effect!! bang is good! you can see in the pic that barrel is very open. This model is so different to anything else out there, and to be honest I always wanted one:)  This is a gun that some will love, some will hate, a "Marmite" model. ATB John EDIT Materials section and parts diagram added:)  Cast zinc parts are: #19, #7, #3, #11 other metal parts = bottom cover, pins, srews,springs sears etc. HW plastic parts are: #1, #2 = main body and barrel. When delivered model was cold from being on UK (cold) delivery van and for some time it felt because of weight like metal !!! only when warm did I see it was HW! HW has a metalic paint? finish
Last edited by Cerwyn on Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:41 am; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : Materials section added :)) | |
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Dronne
Modelgun Enthusiast
Number of posts : 215
Age : 58
Location / Country : France Paris
Registration date : 2012-01-05
| | Subject: Re: HWS Liberator First impression review Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:04 am | |
| Hi JohnnyV,
Nice and interesting review! Thank you.
Can you tell us more about materials used for this model, please? | |
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JohnnyV
Modelgun Perfectionist
Number of posts : 552
Location / Country : Cambridgeshire UK
Registration date : 2009-08-24
| | Subject: Re: HWS Liberator First impression review Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:34 am | |
| Hi Dronne It is done | |
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Dronne
Modelgun Enthusiast
Number of posts : 215
Age : 58
Location / Country : France Paris
Registration date : 2012-01-05
| | Subject: Re: HWS Liberator First impression review Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:53 am | |
| Thank you!  | |
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smootik
Modelgun Perfectionist
Number of posts : 1823
Location / Country : Poland
Registration date : 2009-03-03
| | Subject: Re: HWS Liberator First impression review Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:03 pm | |
| Looks much nicer than I imagined!
Thank you for sharing this hot one :-) | |
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Cerwyn
Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090
Age : 65
Location / Country : North Wales
Registration date : 2008-07-20
| | Subject: Re: HWS Liberator First impression review Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:47 pm | |
| Very nice indeed, it's great to see a completely new model coming onto the market.Nice to see that HWS have gone as far as making a box very much like the ones made by the Americans during Wartime. The Instruction Manual too, just drawings, no written text so no language problems.The real ones came with 10 rounds which were stored inside the grip. Pity HWS only supply 1  Intended for practice use really. The gun was a real "assassins" weapon, designed for one job, a genuine disposable gun.Thanks for the preview John, can't wait for mine to arrive now:D
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Cerwyn
Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria.
also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.
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Cerwyn
Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090
Age : 65
Location / Country : North Wales
Registration date : 2008-07-20
| | Subject: Re: HWS Liberator First impression review Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:11 pm | |
| My Liberator arrived this week (thanks John ). I'd expected a nicely made, if unusual looking gun, but opening the box revealed a very beautifully made, very attractive modelgun.The real Liberator P45 pistol was concieved, designed, tooling made and approximately 1 million produced AND delivered to Partisans, OSS and possibly SOE, Resistance groups in Europe, all done in 6 months, during the latter stages of the second World War. Manufacturing cost each was only US$ 1.50  . Designed as an Assassins gun it was extremely crude and cheaply made from stamped low grade steel and Zinc alloy castings. The barrel was smooth bore, no rifling at all so the only way to ensure hitting the intended target was to get within 6ft. It was so cheaply made that serious metal fatigue started to show itself after only 5 or 6 shots. This was a Disposable gun intended for one "hit" then to be thrown away. The Modelgun, on the other hand, shows an attractive looking, well made gun, finish is good, it's heavy and just begs to be fired The single cartridge supplied performs two functions. With the copper "bullet" screwed in place, it's a dummy diplay cartridge that cannot be loaded into the gun. To fire, the copper "bullet" must be removed and put to one side.I tried a 7mm MG cap first, which gave a good loud BANG thanks to the wide, open barrel. As John suggested in his Review above, I then tried a 5mm Marushin cap. The 5mm cap fired perfectly, if anything, I think it may have even been slightly louder than the 7mm and sent a good shower of sparks through the barrel as you'd expect from Marushin caps.There's no blowback to worry about, just load each cartridge in turn, fire, extract, re-load and fire again. Very impressive indeed, I'm looking forwards to a bit more time to fire this. It's a nice model of one of the Second World War's utilitarian designs and a great addition to my collection.
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Cerwyn
Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria.
also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.
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pitfighter
Modelgun Master
Number of posts : 620
Location / Country : Hollywood, California
Registration date : 2008-09-07
| | Subject: Re: HWS Liberator First impression review Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:40 pm | |
| nice review, an important one for any WW2 collection. | |
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Cerwyn
Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090
Age : 65
Location / Country : North Wales
Registration date : 2008-07-20
| | Subject: Re: HWS Liberator First impression review Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:23 pm | |
| Following John's advice by trying a 5mm cap rather than 7mm proved worthwhile. The smaller cap makes a noticeably louder BANG which can't be heard as well on the video. A very small amount of Magnesium powder poured into the cartridge's vent hole and sealed in with a smear of silicone grease creates a decent Flash that the Video doesn't capture fully
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Cerwyn
Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria.
also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.
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smootik
Modelgun Perfectionist
Number of posts : 1823
Location / Country : Poland
Registration date : 2009-03-03
| | Subject: Re: HWS Liberator First impression review Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:25 pm | |
| Whoa!
I suppose this model could be used instead of a flashbang grenade ;-D | |
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Cerwyn
Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090
Age : 65
Location / Country : North Wales
Registration date : 2008-07-20
| | Subject: Re: HWS Liberator First impression review Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:40 pm | |
| - smootik wrote:
- Whoa!
I suppose this model could be used instead of a flashbang grenade ;-D 
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Cerwyn
Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria.
also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.
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rambo
New Member
Number of posts : 15
Location / Country : Hong Kong
Registration date : 2012-02-27
| | Subject: HWS LIBERATOR Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:28 pm | |
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rambo
New Member
Number of posts : 15
Location / Country : Hong Kong
Registration date : 2012-02-27
| | Subject: HWS LIBERATOR MODEL GUN Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:23 pm | |
| HWS LIBERATOR MODEL (CAP) GUN  | |
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kiwigunner
Modelgun Master
Number of posts : 556
Age : 73
Location / Country : Auckland/New Zealand
Registration date : 2010-03-10
| | Subject: Re: HWS Liberator First impression review Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:48 pm | |
| Excellent reviews & comments + pics and video.  I'm sold! I will have to get one now!  Kiwigunner  | |
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