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PostSubject: CMC Colt Government Model 1911A1 questions   CMC Colt Government Model 1911A1 questions Icon_minitimeSat Sep 08, 2012 1:21 am

I have a CMC Colt Government Model 1911A1 complete in its original box w/ dummy cartridges.
I've searched for information on this model, but have not found any detailed references to it.
It is complete and the action cycles fine.

My questions:

Is there a CMC catalog that lists this particular model and/or has it been referenced in any publications?

Also, what is is approximate value in today's collector market?

I've been a firearms enthusiast (both real & replica models) since the mid- 1960's and have found this Forum to be very informative and well managed.

An album link with additional photos will be posted soon.

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PostSubject: Re: CMC Colt Government Model 1911A1 questions   CMC Colt Government Model 1911A1 questions Icon_minitimeSun Sep 09, 2012 9:32 am

Welcome to the forum jado. It's always a real pleasure to greet new members. I am particularly happy to know you find our forum informative and enjoyable. It's success is all due to contributions from helpful and friendly enthusiasts worldwide.

As promised, here are the rest of your photos:


Larger, higher resolution photos can be viewed @ http://photobucket.com/CMC1911A1 Use password replica

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PostSubject: Re: CMC Colt Government Model 1911A1 questions   CMC Colt Government Model 1911A1 questions Icon_minitimeFri Sep 14, 2012 4:53 pm

Hi Jade, I am sorry to late.
Your model is CMC M1911A1 second model.

First model is non firing model, use smaller cartridges and smaller magazine.
It is CMC brand first original modelgun. Released in 1966.

Second model has almost same shape of first model, paper cap firing model, but not blowback model.

CMC modified first model for paper cap firing in 1977, because several month after CMC released first model MGC released paper cap firing M1911A1.

There are detail pictures and exploded diagram in yon-yon site.
Push last button of every article, if you need the diagram.

First model.
http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~yon-yon/cgi/cmc/GM1/index.html
Parts names are written in English on the exploded diagram.

Second model.
http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~yon-yon/cgi/cmc/GM2/index.html

Third model.
http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~yon-yon/cgi/cmc/GM3/index.html
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PostSubject: Re: CMC Colt Government Model 1911A1 questions   CMC Colt Government Model 1911A1 questions Icon_minitimeSat Sep 15, 2012 11:46 am

Very helpful information HiguSan :-)

Do you maybe also know meaning of "NKG" mark on box?
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PostSubject: Re: CMC Colt Government Model 1911A1 questions   CMC Colt Government Model 1911A1 questions Icon_minitimeSat Sep 15, 2012 6:56 pm

NKG is Nippon Kokyu Gangu Kumiai

Nippon = Japan,
Kokyu = High Grade,
Gangu = Toys,
Kumiai = Guild (?), Cooperative association (?).

It was made up mainly of Nakata, Hudson, Kokusai, CMC, Malugo and “Marushin” in 1965 (?).

Every maker produced modelgun designed by Mr. Mutobe.
They shared items by Mr. Nakata’s arbitration prevent produce same item in the early days.
They issued collaborated catalogue.
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Manual from NKG catalogue.

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PostSubject: Re: CMC Colt Government Model 1911A1 questions   CMC Colt Government Model 1911A1 questions Icon_minitimeSat Sep 15, 2012 7:37 pm

Thank you for all the information and the time spent to locate and send it.
It is really helpful and greatly appreciated.

One of my friends, who collects models, now has my CMC 1911A1

I will pass all this information on to him.

Permission is granted to anyone who wants to copy, save and use any of my photos to help advance knowledge about
model guns.

Here's a link to my album, if it helps. Use the password: replica
http://photobucket.com/CMC1911A1


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Thank you very much HIGUsan for your valuable and extensive information Very Happy It is, as always, greately appreciated.

Thank you John for your permission to make use of your photographs. Photos of rare models like this are extremely helpful. I'm pleased too that thanks to HIGUsan, we've been able to help you with your questions Very Happy

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