Real AR-15 Parts on MGC M4A1?

Post by weekf

Has anyone uses real AR-15 parts on their MGC M4A1?

Last edited by weekf on Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:03 pm; edited 1 time in total

Post by Claymore

Thats a lot of cash to spend but i bet it looks superb. Looking forward to seeing some pics.

Post by weekf

You will need to do most of the modification to get those real gun parts to work though.

Last edited by weekf on Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:04 pm; edited 1 time in total

Post by Mark

Hi weekf,

Welcome to the forums!

While it's tough to get modelguns in many countries today with all of the gun laws etc. You guys in Australia have it especially bad and i really can't see any relief from new-more-looney,-anti-gun legislation in your great country..

My MGC M4 doesn't have any add-ons due to the fact that they are expensive and that i have a real AR15 that i could fit the accessories on instead (if i could afford them that is!) I thought about using airsoft RIS setups on the MGC but, they where still too expensive...
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Post by BRMoore

Yea It required some minor filing to get a Tapco stock to fit on, but the inner tube didn't work so it's just the outer ABS bit, but its a real stock so who cares eh:P

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Post by Mark

Looking great BR!

I take it that you had to file the inside of the stock itself to get it to fit/slide. I took off my Tapco stock off of my AR15 and tried to fit it on my MGC M4. As you discovered, it didn't fit very well..
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MGC MP40 Marushin MP40 Nakata MP40 TRC MP40

Modelgun manufacturers, past and present:CMC,CAW,Hudson,HWS,LS,MGC(R.I.P. 1960's~2007) Marushin,Marui,Kokusai,Shoei,Tanaka and Western Arms

Post by BRMoore

haha yea lol it was annoying because we happened to just have lost the shed keys, couldnt get any tools I used a flat head screw driver to painstakingly file it down, but I supposed that meant I didn't make any mistakes as it took so long and didn't do much fast(so maybe that was a good thing:P). I'm hoping to get as many new purchases to add to the M4 to be real parts like real Aimpoint, foregrips maybe and real flashlights real 3 point sling etc(might need to replace sling swivel to a side mounted one, so getting the quad rail foregrips means I could get a rail mounted swivel), does anyone know would a real quad rail foregrip fit this M4 Replica? like is the foregrip the same dimensions as realsteel? I did get a glimpse i think someone on here did it but are the Commando foregrip halves different sizes?
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Post by MadMike

That was me, new guy I added real no-name oval shaped over-size M4 fore grips on my MGC. Check this:

https://mp40modelguns.forumotion.net/modelgun-accessories-f9/fitting-real-foregrips-to-mgc-m4-carbine-t122.htm

(http://www.mp40modelguns.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?t=1161)

I am not sure if all real fore grips will fit. MGC did a limited model with CAW/Mosquito Molds RIS (there is a review in the review section), but I think little modification was needed to fit it.

The fore grips are all the same on the MGC Heavy Weight AR-15 series, M4A1 Carbine, M4A1 Commando, M733 Commando and M-725 M16A2 Carbine.

Post by BRMoore


Oh yea those would make my M4 look as better as I thought it did when I added the tapco stock except this time for foregrips, were those same size as for the commando version(i dunno if on this just the barrel shorter or foregrips as well)..
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Post by MadMike

As far as I know only the barrel behind the frontsight is shorter. The hand guards should be the same.

But I think only the Carbine has the over size hand guards:
http://www.colt.com/mil/M4.asp

The Commando has the thinner standard ones:
http://www.colt.com/mil/M4Com.asp

MadMike out.

Post by BRMoore

Only looks very slight and I found a picture on www.modelguns.co.uk that shows on the M4 accessories page(which I know some of you will know very well) a quad rail so maybe they supply them so maybe when I save up some money I'm wanting to buy a sling, QD Silencer maybe laser, quad rails, aimpoint scope maybe a bipod.
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Hello BRMoore!

Your M4 certainly looks superb! How have you managed to source and buy genuine AR15 parts and accessories please?
ALL my attempts at buying real gun items (NOT parts to make them fire I hasten to add!) from the US have met with total blanks.
I did manage to get some Sten items from one US dealer but I've been refused magazines, scopes, grips even slings before now!

Cerwyn
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Post by BRMoore

Well when I bought my stock, it came with buffer and buffer spring and buffer tube which all fit on a real steel rifle so they won't fit model guns, so it was only the actual stock itself(the hard ABS type bit you always see on M4's) that fitted so if your prepare to pay £65 for that like I did then the links below but I think whenever you buy real AR-15 parts you must always be prepared to modify them ever so slightly. I had to file down the inside of the stock a small bit, was worthit I think it looks loads better myself:P It generally helps to buy parts already in the UK and leave it to licensed sellers to figure out how to bring the stuff in:)

Where I got my Tapco Stock.
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Thanks for that Link.
I'd expect to have to modify some parts, certainly if attempting to fit real parts to modelguns.
Some models (like MGCUK's steel Sten eg) will accept real magazines without problem (apart from spring strength) and while buying Sten magazines isn't a problem (I've bought them from UK and US dealers) ALL other attempts at buying anything gun related from the US has met with failure. I did get a nice genuine pistol grip for my Sten from the US though. As I said before I was trying to buy Scopes, Slings, Red Dot Laser sights NOT parts to make a gun fire.
Do you hold a Section 5 Firearm Certificate thus making buying real stuff for your M4 easy?
Or can you buy certain items from UK dealers without one?

Cerwyn
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Post by BRMoore



In my understanding you only need a certificate for things that fire a projectile out of the barrel over the 1 joule legal limit(which is hard to police anyway because things like airsoft guns just require a spring to go over that limit) and anything that relates to the firing mechanism of a real firearm, and of course real firearms themselves. As long as you have a safe place to keep a firearm, a safe way to transport it if you intend to, a safe place to shoot it, you can own just about anything, but the police will check and decide what they deem safe. Oh and functional silencers need a license because they cancel down noise, which is the only factor alerting nearby people to a firearm going off, even the US requires licenses for some silencers.

Stocks, slings, scopes, bipods, rails, grips etc shouldn't require a license, trouble you've had may have been over the issue of people trying to get any and all replicas banned earlier in 2006 so people would rather not sell things, but from the link i gave you he's willing to sell all of what he stocks if i remember correctly he doesnt stock parts to help the functionality of a firearm to fire projectiles. Apart from the buffer and buffer spring that i got with my stock but i got it so im not bothered:P Dunno what to do with them though lol, if I ever sell my M4 maybe i'll give them to the person anyway...
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