Before the VCR Act in the UK happens...

Post by Mark

I suggest obtaining two non-modelgun parts: An all metal HK MP5 airsoft body and at least one real (or MGC MP5K airsoft) MP5 magazine. Why? I think that if I do come up with a "how to" plan to convert the airsoft MP5 over to a modelgun using easy to find parts and parts that 8ace can manufacture later after the VCR is in force. Whether this would be legal or not is the question...
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Post by kickback

Hi Mark,

Already one step ahead of you mate i have started this as my next project and hopefully will be able to get a working modelgun of the mp5 up on the forum soon .

Cheers
Kickback

Post by Jez_JRP

I'm sure you guys probably already know this, but the Act does not make an offence of importing parts, spares and accessories, including metal receivers and indeed any other model gun or non-prohibited firearm part UK members not covered by any of the specific defences can have as many parts and spares and bits & bobs as they like.

The main concern in terms of breaching the Act would be "manufacturing a realistic imitation firearm". Let's say you already had all the spares and whatnot, and assembled it into a full gun, you would have committed that offence.

This is only a problem if: 1) you get caught building the thing by the Law, or 2) it can be proved you built the thing after Oct 1st.

Now, on the other hand, if you had a COMPLETE airsoft metal MP5 and proceeded to gut it, and modify the guts into a modelgun, you'd not be manufacturing an RIF. So if you're going to buy any MP5 bits before Oct 1, just get a whole one

Post by GZ22

I'd be very interested indeed to see how your project MP5 turns out - please do keep us posted!

Post by MadMike

I am thinking a lot about you guys in the UK. I am sure we have to keep our heads and see what will happen. Of course I´d recommend to keep low profile in the first months after October. New (legal) situations always need time until you know what is and what is not possible or tolerated. Guys don´t panic. If you can afford it, keep your collection and enjoy your models. Life is short and we don´t know what will happen to us next, as we all are living on borrowed time. Anyway it is just money, and how often did we realise that the money was spent and our time propably wasted. But hey, that is life and life goes on, so what´s the hurt. Madmike out.
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Post by Phobus

MadMike wrote:

I am thinking a lot about you guys in the UK. I am sure we have to keep our heads and see what will happen. Of course I´d recommend to keep low profile in the first months after October. New (legal) situations always need time until you know what is and what is not possible or tolerated. Guys don´t panic. If you can afford it, keep your collection and enjoy your models. Life is short and we don´t know what will happen to us next, as we all are living on borrowed time. Anyway it is just money, and how often did we realise that the money was spent and our time propably wasted. But hey, that is life and life goes on, so what´s the hurt. Madmike out.

Nice genuine feelings Mike , I appreciate it as I,m sure others on here do .
Of course its true , its only a hobby , and life is short and who knows what lies ahead ?
I have a family , and to me they always come first , no matter what .
This is just the latest in a sad long line of garbage legistation from a clueless governement that gun enthusiasts in the UK have had to take .
There is so much hypocrisy here ; as people get shot dead in the streets going about their daily business , Police busy themselves setting up more speed cameras .
Then they " deal " with the gun problem by taking away BB guns and replicas ???
Thats right , Tough on crime , tough on the causes of crime .
Carl.

Post by Ozguns

As long as the owners keep them to themselves, and don't do anything silly with replica model guns, then there shouldn't be too much of a problem.
If you do get busted with one, and you get charged for whatever reason for owning a "weapon", just remember to state that "these model guns don't kill!"
They are just simply lumps of alloy, plastic and wood!

Post by GZ22

Mark, please feel free to remove this post if you think it is inappropriate to the discussion.

Thinking of making a modelgun MP5, I bought an all-metal airsoft spring MP5K, 6 days ago, brand new in the box, so that I could maybe somehow use the metal body in a future project. But I just don't have the engineering know how to be honest - I think I'll wait for Kickback's project to show us how it'd done!

It's nothng special, it works perfectly well, a minor point is that the screw in the front grip is stripped a little and doesn;t engage the nut anymore, so you need a new one, but apart from that, nowt wrong with it. If it might be of any use to one of you, I'll sell it for what I paid, or thereabouts £40 ono including postage. here it is, and it's unusual in that it's made entirely of aluminium, and basically consists of two halves bolted together.: