Mystery cartridge challenge.....

OK Quiz time:)
Anyone know what these are for?? (sorry for poor pics ) I am not sure


Also does MGC R100 series peacemaker mean anything to anyone????

All I can guess is: open-type revolver cartridges, judging by shallow hole and revolver-specific rim.

MGC Peacemaker was sold in UK/USA under RMI brand. Number 100 was 4 1/2" barrel variant, as reviewed here:
https://mp40modelguns.forumotion.net/modelgun-reviews-f4/rmi-colt-peacemaker-t333.htm

Thanks smootik !
I suspect you are bang on with that one!!
The reason I ask is that I have 162 of these cartridges
Just need a gun to go with them now
anyone got one they want to get rid of????????

If you have 162 cartridges, it better be for a belt-fed machine gun ;-)

How about a gatling gun as they used rimmed cartridges

JohnnyV wrote:

Thanks smootik !
I suspect you are bang on with that one!!
The reason I ask is that I have 162 of these cartridges
Just need a gun to go with them now
anyone got one they want to get rid of????????

Hmm, I have a MGC colt and they don't look like mine (although they may be earlier design)
Have a look here for the colts
http://www.gundeals.co.uk/REPLICAS-PRE-1870-ONLY,category,1938,parent_id,categories

They pop up quite regular

Cheers Mega!

These are plastic are they not ?

DOC

Hi Doc,

They are anodized aluminum

Ah that explains the funny look

Being aluminium Id say these are not from any old series modelgun but something very recent and new.

Indeed Aluminium cartridges were used on early CMC guns ( M1s spring to mind ) however they were plain alli and not anodised .

DOC

The history of them is that they were bought some years ago as part of the entire stock of a closing down of a model shop in the USA by the people that sold them to me, My own "best guess" at the moment is that the store purchased some MGC revolver in the 60s-70s and rather than buy the original carts they had these made up.
(there are still another 550 available!! )
The length is exactly 28.5mm nose to tip and a 7mm cap sits flush in the end, body diameter as near to 10.8mm as I can measure.

If anyone has an early MGC that these may fit, they are welcome to a free pack to try.

Pretty sure they will fit the Metal MGC Colt peacemaker ( the one from late 1970s )
if you see one they are marked "MGC Manufactory"

It used a once piece brass cartridge that measured 10.7 x 30mm the same cartridge also fit the early winchesters too ( although they dont taper like these so these would probably not cycle in the rifle.

The peacemakers used a paper cap so I can guess these were made in the 1980s to use the convenient plastic caps.

DOC

Many thanks for that info!

FYI - MGC Winchester 40-44 shells are 30.4mm long, 10.8mm wide (except for rim). For pictures see my review, it shows the latest version and an earlier one - it's probably not the earliest though.

DOC wrote:

Pretty sure they will fit the Metal MGC Colt peacemaker ( the one from late 1970s )
if you see one they are marked "MGC Manufactory"

It used a once piece brass cartridge that measured 10.7 x 30mm the same cartridge also fit the early winchesters too ( although they dont taper like these so these would probably not cycle in the rifle.

The peacemakers used a paper cap so I can guess these were made in the 1980s to use the convenient plastic caps.

DOC

I have a metal MGC colt, you could send me 1 and i'll see if it fits and also compare it with the cartridges that I already have ?

Ok Mega
PM me your address and will get them in the post Monday:)

OK, Received the "Mystery Cartridges" today and unfortunately they are still a mystery.
They do not fit my MGC colt, they are slightly smaller in length but the rims are slightly larger and do not fit into the cylinder as they impede on the ratchet