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PostSubject: MGC Mauser HSc   Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:21 pm

OK simple question Smile
I have one of these models, firing model, BUT I simply cannot see an ejector on it????? nor where one would go???
it chambers, fires, but even manually there is no ejection since there is no ejector..... cart is pulled back by extractor but how is it meant to eject with no ejector.
Maybe I am not seeing the wood for the trees, but there simply is no ejector or place for an ejector to fit???

Please advise if you can shed any light scratch or if you have a parts diagram cheers
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PostSubject: Re: MGC Mauser HSc   Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:48 pm

OK
A bit more research and I have answered my own question cheers

Take a look at the picture below:

The ejector is on the magazine ??? I myst admit I have not seen this before!
this pic was found on a Japanese site, and I can now see the place on my mag where it has snaped off at some point in time, I must say I am not suprised it snaped off! a very unusual design and flimsy at that.
I do not know if the real gun was like this or not? I suppose a bit more reading required!!

next step is to work out a beeter solution and get this model going properly!!

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PostSubject: Re: MGC Mauser HSc   Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:10 pm

Wow that's a first Shocked and with mag metal being mild steel i wouldn't have thought it would last long No

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PostSubject: Re: MGC Mauser HSc   Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:19 pm

Indeed !! not the best peice of design Crying or Very sad

Still after a long night scratch SOLUTION ! cheers

build in a new ejector, space very tight but managed it in the end Smile




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Before modification picture:


Last edited by JohnnyV on Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:26 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : added before mod pic)
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PostSubject: Re: MGC Mauser HSc   Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:00 pm

JohonnyV,

Isn't this "quack action" (slide start move along with you pull the trigger, hammer is actually not functioning)?
If so, I would assume an ejector sits top side of mag.

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PostSubject: Re: MGC Mauser HSc   Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:17 pm

Hi Katsuro

No its not the "quack /tanio action" model, it is one of the old "dummy round" types desingned to manually cycle rounds, there is no quack mecahnism (I have ppk with that action) . I recived no dummy rounds with the model but am using modified .32 acp ppk rounds with single cap. there is no blowback because pin in barrel is to short but bang and smoke is nice:) then manualy rack the slide to eject and chamber next round.
MAYBE I will try to put longer det pin in to barrel to make it full blowback model, but because det pin is cast into barrel this is a tricky job.... but it would be great as blowback model......hhhmmmm must think if its worth it!
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PostSubject: Re: MGC Mauser HSc   Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:33 pm

scratch Does a quack action still eject Question never seen one in action
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PostSubject: Re: MGC Mauser HSc   Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:06 pm

It does in MGC Walther PPK.
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PostSubject: Re: MGC Mauser HSc   Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:32 pm

Yes - I can concur, my MGC Walther does too!

Great solution 8ace! 'cheers'

Question: how did you determine the HEIGHT of the ejector pin: before or after installation? 'Question'

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PostSubject: Re: MGC Mauser HSc   Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:47 pm

Hi Kiwigunner Smile

Indeed 8ace does come up with the majority of the best solutions, but this one was mine lol!

well the max height of the ejector was determined by the slide underside (I would have liked it a bit higher but the clearance was not there. Anyway I set the steel peice in the frame first then kept taking a shaving off the top untill the slide went on with no fouling on the ejector, i was worried that it was a bit to low but when tested it was fine.
the width was also set by the existing parts in the top slide, so kept it as wide as possible for strength.
ie everthing was decided after installation:)

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PostSubject: Re: MGC Mauser HSc   Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:47 am

OOPS! 'affraid'
Sorry about the confusion between you two! I kinda associate you both together for your great skills in Modelguns! I guess I can't read either! 'lol!'
Thanks for the details: shows how much thought and work goes into what seem "simple" solutions!

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PostSubject: Re: MGC Mauser HSc   Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:57 pm

Sorry to hijack the thread, but I have s question:
I aquired a used Mauser HSc (with 'ejector' on the mag Smile ) and seem to have a strange problem: with the safety UP in firing position, it won't fire, neither double nor single action. With the safety lever DOWN on safe, both double and single action work fine confused

Any ideas? And how to set things straight?

Unfortunately, the internals are not very faithfull to the real steel. I'm trying to get an old spec deactivated Mauser HSc before april 8, with working trigger group, but no luck. Would complement my Heckler & Koch Mod. 4, which is sort of its grandchild, design wise...
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PostSubject: Re: MGC Mauser HSc   Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:09 am

JohnnyV wrote:
Hi Katsuro

No its not the "quack /tanio action" model, it is one of the old "dummy round" types desingned to manually cycle rounds, there is no quack mecahnism (I have ppk with that action) . I recived no dummy rounds with the model but am using modified .32 acp ppk rounds with single cap. there is no blowback because pin in barrel is to short but bang and smoke is nice:) then manualy rack the slide to eject and chamber next round.
MAYBE I will try to put longer det pin in to barrel to make it full blowback model, but because det pin is cast into barrel this is a tricky job.... but it would be great as blowback model......hhhmmmm must think if its worth it!

I have also started playing with the idea of Marushin .32 cartridges.
Detonator pin is obviously too short to reach the cap/piston inside cartridge and generate recoil.

Has anyone tried using 2 "front pistons" inside a Marushin .32 - without measuring and calculating, this should get closer to the action we are chasing ??
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