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Subject: **Sold** MGC68 MP40 **Sold** Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:41 am

**Sold** Original and unaltered cap firing example. steel receiver, barrel #5054, magazine marked MGC 68 , MP.38 u 40, complete and solid, underfolder works properly, metal has a nice aged plum patina, great display or reenactment mp40, $600 or trades considered, local central florida inspection and purchase welcome or shipping available...
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Subject: Re: **Sold** MGC68 MP40 **Sold** Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:41 pm

the sling look like a old m1 carabine sling..
original MP40's sling are really different..

Subject: Re: **Sold** MGC68 MP40 **Sold** Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:53 pm

Hello Rick,

I wish I could find fine modelguns like this in lofts Value can be influenced by whether or not the model is a cap-firing or a display only model.

Display only models were produced by MGC for the export market. Typically they'll have drilled barrel nuts going right through the chamber, the barrel may be plugged and have no Detonator Pin, the bolt face will be ground at approx 45 degrees to prevent cartridge feeding from the magazine which results in a non-firing model. Receivers were ofter cut from the Magazine well towards the barrel nut too.

For photos and tips on identifying if it's a dummy or not, have a look at this category:

https://mp40modelguns.forumotion.net/f17-mgc68-mp40

If you've any questions at all, please don't hesitate to ask

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Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria.
also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.

Subject: Re: **Sold** MGC68 MP40 **Sold** Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:52 pm

i took some pics of the bolt face and chamber, nothing seems ground or drilled, unless i'm not looking in the correct spot, 9mm dummy rounds fit in the magazine perfect and it will chamber the round.

Subject: Re: **Sold** MGC68 MP40 **Sold** Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:45 am

Thanks for the additional photos

If you compare your bolt to this photo of a cut/ground bolt, it should clarify the bolt type you have

Early type Unground, cap firing bolt:

Later type Unground cap firing bolt:

**Sold** MGC68 MP40 **Sold** DigiCamPics4807

The critical areas here for fully functioning cap firers are the feed rails (either single or twin as shown) and a flat recessed bolt face. Without these, cartridges can't be extracted fully from the chamber... more often than not, they can't feed cartridges from the magazine either.
If your model chambers 9mm dummy rounds (with solid bullets), then it's a safe bet there's no Detonator Pin in the chamber. What you may have is this set-up:

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**Sold** MGC68 MP40 **Sold** MGC68_MP40_6

How does yours compare to these please

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Cerwyn

Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria.
also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.

Subject: Re: **Sold** MGC68 MP40 **Sold** Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:18 pm

finally took the picture we wanted to see? looking at a unground cap firing bolt with flat recessed bolt face? still trying to figure out the feed rail? so, confirm this is a cap firing model?

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Subject: Re: **Sold** MGC68 MP40 **Sold** Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:49 pm

Yes indeed, that's a good condition, looks unused, cap-firing bolt

I've replied to your PM about the last things to check i.e. Det.Pin, Drilled Reciever and Barrel Nut etc ...

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Cerwyn

Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria.
also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.

Subject: Re: **Sold** MGC68 MP40 **Sold** Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:46 pm

no holes drilled, took barrel off, chamber is open (see through from the muzzle end), nothing blocking it, and the barrel has a metal strip / rib tacked in there but doesn`t look like much holding it there.

Subject: Re: **Sold** MGC68 MP40 **Sold** Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:04 pm

Hi Rick

Perfect, that's definately a cap-firing MGC68 MP40 All you need to complete it is a Detonator Pin and suitable cartridges.

Don't attempt to remove that bar from the barrel ... it's an anti-tamper measure, carbon steel bar cast into the zinc alloy die cast barrel. Any attempt to drill it would see the drill skidding off and breaking out through the barrel wall. The model will still vent smoke from the muzzle with that bar just as it is.

You've got yourself a nice modelgun there

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Cerwyn

Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria.
also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.

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