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yellow Modelgun Enthusiast
Number of posts : 208 Age : 42 Location / Country : Belgium Registration date : 2009-07-02
| Subject: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:30 pm | |
| Pffffffff don't seem to have any luck today. I disassembled the M9 to clean the firing pin and to straighten the pin on the inside of the slide stop, and the pin on fire selector on the inside of the gun broke of, without even touching it. I took off the slide and the little pin just fell out of it. This means of course the end of the full auto mode Don't know what to do anymore. Don't think this is even fixable Just a silly question: anyone have a fire selector spare part? | |
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yellow Modelgun Enthusiast
Number of posts : 208 Age : 42 Location / Country : Belgium Registration date : 2009-07-02
| Subject: Re: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:06 pm | |
| Great news! I was able to repair it The pin was broken, so I couldn't just fix it with some glue. So I drilled a 2,5mm hole on the exact same place of the little pin, through the complete fire selector switch. Then I tapped some M3 thread in it to place a little M3 bolt in it, and shortened it to the length of the original pin. Result: my baby works again!!!!!!!!!! Doesn't look so nice because you can see a little bolt-head on the outside, but I'm happy it works! Maybe in the future I can find another fire selector switch somewhere. | |
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smootik Modelgun Perfectionist
Number of posts : 1823 Location / Country : Poland Registration date : 2009-03-03
| Subject: Re: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:20 pm | |
| Congratulations :-D I bet this Beretta is now more special to you, after this fix | |
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yellow Modelgun Enthusiast
Number of posts : 208 Age : 42 Location / Country : Belgium Registration date : 2009-07-02
| Subject: Re: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:05 pm | |
| Haha, thx Still, a new fire selector switch would be nicer | |
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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090 Age : 65 Location / Country : North Wales Registration date : 2008-07-20
| Subject: Re: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:16 am | |
| _________________ Cerwyn
Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria. also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.
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denisonsmock New Member
Number of posts : 178 Location / Country : Taiwan Registration date : 2009-04-13
| Subject: Re: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:08 am | |
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yellow Modelgun Enthusiast
Number of posts : 208 Age : 42 Location / Country : Belgium Registration date : 2009-07-02
| Subject: Re: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:27 am | |
| Hi Denisonsmock, it wasn't the firing pin that was broken, it was about the little pin on the inside of the fire selector switch (the little pin that makes the difference between semi and fullauto). But I also have a question about the firing pin in my M9. On the manual I can see that the firing pin is placed inside the barrel with a sort of grub screw, but mine is fixed in the barrel. There isn't a screw anywere, so I can not remove it from the barrel. Is that so for all the Wa Shan M9's then??? Then another question: How can you translate a website with IE8??? | |
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8ace Modelgun Perfectionist
Number of posts : 2560 Location / Country : UK Registration date : 2008-08-06
| Subject: Re: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:44 am | |
| I thought that the breech assy (including the firing pin) is held in place by the extractor screw, once that is removed with the extractor the breech assy can be taken off the slide (although i have seen it guled to the slide as well)
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smootik Modelgun Perfectionist
Number of posts : 1823 Location / Country : Poland Registration date : 2009-03-03
| Subject: Re: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:33 am | |
| - yellow wrote:
- Then another question: How can you translate a website with IE8???
I don't know about IE8, but you can go to: http://translate.google.com/paste URL of original page into large box, choose translation languages (from: Chinese, to: English), click "translate". 8ace: you are correct about firing pin and breach assembly (parts that are behind loaded cartridge in slide). I think that yellow meant detonator pin (one in the barrel, in front of loaded cartridge). I confuse these two names myself ;-) In WaShan M84 it seems that detonator pin is also fixed in barrel, I could not find a way to remove it either. Unfortunately this makes cleaning quite difficult. | |
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denisonsmock New Member
Number of posts : 178 Location / Country : Taiwan Registration date : 2009-04-13
| Subject: Re: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:35 am | |
| - yellow wrote:
- Hi Denisonsmock,
it wasn't the firing pin that was broken, it was about the little pin on the inside of the fire selector switch (the little pin that makes the difference between semi and fullauto).
But I also have a question about the firing pin in my M9. On the manual I can see that the firing pin is placed inside the barrel with a sort of grub screw, but mine is fixed in the barrel. There isn't a screw anywere, so I can not remove it from the barrel. Is that so for all the Wa Shan M9's then???
Then another question: How can you translate a website with IE8??? Hi Yellow, Copy the link into IE8 and press enter. If it doesn’t do it automatically press translate on the top toolbar, depending if you have addons in IE8. Use Firefox for purchasing on the web though. It should automatically translate it to English. It does it better than Firefox. I do not have a Hawsan M9 myself, so I do not know anything about them. I’ve got the SigP220 full metal. I’ve just gone into Intrudershop; see if any of these look as though they will fit a PFC Hawsan M9. The parts are for GBBs, but it’s worth a look – and its steel. http://www.intrudershop.com.tw/categories_eng.asp?main_idcategory=39&idcategory=40&idproduct=1406Let us know what happens. | |
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denisonsmock New Member
Number of posts : 178 Location / Country : Taiwan Registration date : 2009-04-13
| Subject: Re: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:39 am | |
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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090 Age : 65 Location / Country : North Wales Registration date : 2008-07-20
| Subject: Re: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:41 am | |
| My WaShan Dolphin's detonator pin is fixed in the barrel's chamber and cannot be removed. This isn't really a problem when cleaning though. I'll place the barrel in the Ultrasonic cleaner and / or immerse it in hot water, white vinegar and bicarbonate of soda for about 30 mins. The Ultrasonic cleaner is very effective as you can see the accumulated dirt breaking away and seeping out of both ends of the barrel. Once that's done, rinse through with hot water and dry it off. A Q-Tip, Cotton Wool Bud, or a stiff mascara brush will then remove any muck left in the chamber. It's surprising how much dirt does build up in the barrel so a good clean like this after every firing session is worth the effort. _________________ Cerwyn
Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria. also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.
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denisonsmock New Member
Number of posts : 178 Location / Country : Taiwan Registration date : 2009-04-13
| Subject: Re: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:46 am | |
| - Cerwyn wrote:
- My WaShan Dolphin's detonator pin is fixed in the barrel's chamber and cannot be removed. This isn't really a problem when cleaning though.
I'll place the barrel in the Ultrasonic cleaner and / or immerse it in hot water, white vinegar and bicarbonate of soda for about 30 mins. The Ultrasonic cleaner is very effective as you can see the accumulated dirt breaking away and seeping out of both ends of the barrel. Once that's done, rinse through with hot water and dry it off. A Q-Tip, Cotton Wool Bud, or a stiff mascara brush will then remove any muck left in the chamber. It's surprising how much dirt does build up in the barrel so a good clean like this after every firing session is worth the effort. I take it you would like something that I posted in a link earlier - an all seperate system? | |
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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090 Age : 65 Location / Country : North Wales Registration date : 2008-07-20
| Subject: Re: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:47 am | |
| I've Windows Vista on my PC and the toolbar's "Page" button has Google Translate in the drop down menu It's free, works well translating Japanese into English, it covers most languages so might also be worth a try _________________ Cerwyn
Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria. also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.
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8ace Modelgun Perfectionist
Number of posts : 2560 Location / Country : UK Registration date : 2008-08-06
| Subject: Re: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:03 am | |
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- I think that yellow meant detonator pin (one in the barrel, in front of loaded cartridge).
Ah yes i must learn to read things | |
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denisonsmock New Member
Number of posts : 178 Location / Country : Taiwan Registration date : 2009-04-13
| Subject: Re: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:06 am | |
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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090 Age : 65 Location / Country : North Wales Registration date : 2008-07-20
| Subject: Re: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:21 am | |
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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090 Age : 65 Location / Country : North Wales Registration date : 2008-07-20
| Subject: Re: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:32 am | |
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denisonsmock New Member
Number of posts : 178 Location / Country : Taiwan Registration date : 2009-04-13
| Subject: Re: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:53 am | |
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yellow Modelgun Enthusiast
Number of posts : 208 Age : 42 Location / Country : Belgium Registration date : 2009-07-02
| Subject: Re: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:54 pm | |
| Wow, what has happened here Yes, I'm sorry guys, I meant detonator pin instead of firing pin indeed. I can't get a complete site translated in English. I know google translates a piece of text, but I would like to have a complete page translated. 89£ is indeed a very good price | |
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yellow Modelgun Enthusiast
Number of posts : 208 Age : 42 Location / Country : Belgium Registration date : 2009-07-02
| Subject: Re: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:39 pm | |
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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
Number of posts : 11090 Age : 65 Location / Country : North Wales Registration date : 2008-07-20
| Subject: Re: WaShan M9 Dolphin Fire Selector Broken Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:23 pm | |
| - yellow wrote:
- Wow, what has happened here
Yes, I'm sorry guys, I meant detonator pin instead of firing pin indeed.
I can't get a complete site translated in English. I know google translates a piece of text, but I would like to have a complete page translated.
89£ is indeed a very good price There's been a lot of discussion going on whilst you've been away yellow I'm sorry if things got a little off track No need to apologise for anything, firing pins and detonator pins do get confused sometimes which led me to ask more about the pin Denisonsmock was referring to. WaShan's instruction leaflet is misleading, the part shown as #45 is not as per my own, or any other example of the M9 I've seen. In fact, IMHO the Instruction sheet looks much more like a Marushin model which does have a removable detonator pin. Who knows, maybe WaShan photocopied Marushin's Keeping the fixed detonator pin clean isn't that difficult, it would be easier if it was removeable, but even so the Hot Water/Vinegar/Bicarb Soda trick followed by Q-Tips works well. There are a couple of things to watch out for. The Detonator Pin has a seperate tip (not sure if it's hardened or not) which can fall out. The tip is tiny, easily lost too. If all of a sudden you find cartridges dont fire when the hammer falls, check the tip is still on that pin. Another problem I've experienced, and know of others that did the same, is the Selector Switch retaining screw can strip the thread in the slide VERY easily. As you know, to switch from Semi to Auto, you need to pull the switch outwards first, against spring pressure, then turn it down for Auto, up for Semi.Tightening the screw up firmly CAN be too tight to allow the switch to pull outwards.Slackening it off to allow the switch to pull out & turn can make the screw loose enough so that as you're firing away in Full Auto the selector switch, screw and spring go flying accross the room. So you slacken it, turn the switch, tighten it up so it doesn't fall off and the screw catches the slide stopping you cock it, or, strips the thread.From memory I think the screw's only 2.5mm dia, steel, screwing into a shallow thread cut in Zinc Alloy. _________________ Cerwyn
Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria. also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.
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