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PostSubject: Tanio Koba M4   Tanio Koba M4 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 08, 2011 4:07 pm

It is not come out to the market yet, still testing, but this video is amazing.

http://www.taniokoba.co.jp/m4mg_set/m4mg_ytup1130.html
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PostSubject: Re: Tanio Koba M4   Tanio Koba M4 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 08, 2011 4:29 pm

Cool :-)

Interesting cartridge shape - no realistic "bullet" top, maybe for better reliability?
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PostSubject: Re: Tanio Koba M4   Tanio Koba M4 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 08, 2011 5:12 pm

it does look good but i hate to think of cost, that said i was willing to pay a lot for his GM7 and that was worth the money so probably want this for the same reason
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PostSubject: Re: Tanio Koba M4   Tanio Koba M4 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 08, 2011 6:29 pm

No choice pal, no choice...

There's extremely few modelguns released nowadays, and at much higher prices.
If it weren't Tanio Koba, I would probably not really consider this model.
I agree with you - his GM7 is expensive, but it delivers plenty of fun.
Design just works, cleaning is fairly simple, especially so for cartridges.

I have my hopes high for M4. Not sure yet if I will go for it, but I trust that Tanio will make more than a collector's piece.
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PostSubject: Re: Tanio Koba M4   Tanio Koba M4 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 08, 2011 9:09 pm

It'll be interesting to see what the cartridge size is Question and if they will fit the Marushin models
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PostSubject: Re: Tanio Koba M4   Tanio Koba M4 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 19, 2011 1:41 pm

Tokyo Toys Distribution announce the Tanio Koba M4 is ready for pre-order. The link below describes the model's technical specs in detail:

Tanio Koba M4 CP Blowback Model Gun

Posted in January 19, 2011 ¬ 2:48 amh. admin

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Tanio Koba M4 CP Blowback Model Gun


PRE-ORDER
Will ship out in mid/late February 2011.
Order yours here!
This is the new Tanio Koba M4 CP Blowback Model of 2011 that has been designed and manufactured as entirely new model. Because of the extensive development and manufacturing involved, the model price is higher.
Special Barrel Design
The short type barrel design allows generous ejection of firing smoke, which is unusual for model guns of M4’s lenght.
Because of the Japanese regulation regarding model guns carbide has been inserted inside of the barrel.
Reliable Center Fire Firing Action
The ABS M16 model gun developed during the MGC-era was capable of firing the cartridges by the bolt-face moving forwards (you can find this model in our store as second hand model).
Back then this was the most suitable way to fire, but in the other hand it doesn’t make much difference with side-firing types. For this model, the “center fire” type of model gun firing action has been adopted, which makes the model firing action more reliable.
Also by cutting a part of the bolt and exposing the firing-pin, this helps to ensure safety of the model. The ejector for the real guns is “plunger type”, but for this model the ejector is attached inside of the upper receiver. This ejector’s sheet metal is connected to the upper receiver and is able to absorb the shock of the cartridge by the entire receiver.
The end-result is reliable firing action, even in full automatic.
OTHER FEATURES
Short Barrel & Muzzle Design
There is an A2-type muzzle flash suppressor attached in front of the front site base. Because of the short barrel the firing smoke can dissipate through muzzle unlike in longer model gun rifles.
Rear sight
The rear sight can be detached. It is fully adjustable. The charging handle can be operated as in real M4.
Rear Swivel
The rear swivel ring is located in the base of the stock and can be switched to left and right.
Stock
The stock is capable to be adjusted into 5 steps.
Trigger Guard
Knights type trigger guard is adopted which gives you enough space to trigger even with gloves on.
Markings
The mark on the right side of the receiver also indicates that this is a military law enforcement model.
Bolt & Ejection Design
The bolt facing is reproduced clearly to the locking-lag.
The firing pin is located in the internal area of the bolt. The cut parts of both sides are also slot passages for ejectors.
The sheet metal ejector is connected to inside of the upper receiver.
Magazine Design
The magazines are copies of P-MAG. Don’t run it over by a car since it is not a MAGPUL version.
Plug Fire Cartridge Design
A newly produced hexagon cartridge. If you see the head of the F-pin you will feel what it means. The loader is designed to set the inner and F-pins with one stick.
Firing Action
The Koba/M4-MG fires in a fast cycle with a very stable blowback. The gun fires 30 rounds rapidly and the bolt stops with any problems. It is a perfect model to shoot and play with.
The cartridges are aluminum made and brass colored almite finished. Compared to real brass it is light and the cartridge ejection action during blow-back is remarkably good.
This cartridge contains a secret which has a hexagonal cut in the edge of the F-pin.
Therefore when the blow-back starts, the gas escapes around the hexagonal cut and more gas escapes to the muzzle compared to the round shaped cartridges, but don’t worry, the pressure of the gas will squeeze the O-ring, so gas will be sealed properly. In the top of the F-pin there is also a hole and the front head of the detonator will fit in. This part is secured so the F-pin will hit the cap in the center which prevents miss-firing.
The advantages for the new-type cartridges can be numbered more. It’s faster since it is lighter, flies further and if the cartridge falls on the ground you can hear the light metal sound.
Recoil Power
Unexpectedly, there are reports of significant recoil with this new Tanio Koba M4 model thanks to the new advanced cartridge design and well-refined firing mechanism.
TECHNICAL DETAILS
Type: Cap Firing Blowback Model Gun
Overall length: 685mm~765mm
Main material: Amorphous nylon, Zinc alloy
Overall weight: 2,300g
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
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PostSubject: Re: Tanio Koba M4   Tanio Koba M4 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 19, 2011 1:45 pm

...and it's 1200$.
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PostSubject: Re: Tanio Koba M4   Tanio Koba M4 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 19, 2011 1:53 pm

smootik wrote:
...and it's 1200$.


affraid TTD's prices do tend to be ridiculously high, there's every possibility this will be less expensive from other sources. It isn't going to be cheap though No

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PostSubject: Re: Tanio Koba M4   Tanio Koba M4 Icon_minitimeWed Jun 01, 2011 2:22 pm

Any news about the Tanio Koba M4A1? Any pics? I heard it is for sale on the Japanese market. From what I have seen so far I do not like the cobination of the ultra short barrel, the large (oversize) handguards and the Law Enforcement markings. as far as I know real Colt Carbines with these markings are (mostly) semi-only "patrol carbines". Anyway what I have seen so far looks very promising ...
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PostSubject: Re: Tanio Koba M4   Tanio Koba M4 Icon_minitimeWed Jun 01, 2011 2:51 pm

Slo-mo video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajFDeRxAD9c

Note how bolt bounces twice before settling down!

There is also a bunch of new videos on Youtube (search for "タニオコバ M4-MG") including this wonderfully weird one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXuwJbltgcE
Which is actually an advert for madpolice.co.jp, a shop selling TK M4-MG.
http://madpolice.co.jp/
Price: 80 000 JPY (about 1000 USD)

I agree on handguards, they look as if made in a different scale :-/
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PostSubject: Re: Tanio Koba M4   Tanio Koba M4 Icon_minitimeWed Jun 01, 2011 3:15 pm

Thanks! The handguards are all-right on 14,5 inch barreld M4A1 carbines. The short barreled Commandos still use the thinner handguards.

See the pics from Colt's website:

Tanio Koba M4 M4-1

Tanio Koba M4 M4Com
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PostSubject: Re: Tanio Koba M4   Tanio Koba M4 Icon_minitimeWed Mar 07, 2012 10:18 am

The bigger M4 style hand guards are correct. Current Colt "commandos" with short barrel are using them now as I learnt. Colt has changed their production using only one type of standard double heat-shield hand guard.

I would love to see a review of this modelgun.

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PostSubject: Re: Tanio Koba M4   Tanio Koba M4 Icon_minitimeWed Mar 07, 2012 8:50 pm

Hi MadMike

OK Smile
I will put up a review/opinion is a few minutes in the review section:)
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PostSubject: Re: Tanio Koba M4   Tanio Koba M4 Icon_minitimeWed Aug 25, 2021 9:51 am

I just realised that it is 10 years now that the TK M4A1 was released. It still gives me a thrilling feeling remembering how I was allowed to handle and fire a good friend's TK M4A1. Some years later I was able to get one for a reasonable price myself.

Time is rushing so fast.

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PostSubject: Re: Tanio Koba M4   Tanio Koba M4 Icon_minitimeFri Aug 27, 2021 5:38 pm

Time does fly!
This model is still one of my very favorites.
It's reliable firing capabilities are outstanding.

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