| Help Identify this Zinc & Steel MP40 | |
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kiwigunner Modelgun Master
Number of posts : 556 Age : 74 Location / Country : Auckland/New Zealand Registration date : 2010-03-10
| Subject: Help Identify this Zinc & Steel MP40 Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:27 am | |
| Can anyone help identify this all-metal MP40? No markings whatsoever! Is it a Marushin? It's for sale locally and might buy it if it is! Kiwigunner | |
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smootik Modelgun Perfectionist
Number of posts : 1823 Location / Country : Poland Registration date : 2009-03-03
| Subject: Re: Help Identify this Zinc & Steel MP40 Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:26 am | |
| Interesting - JohnnyV is chasing after a metal MP40 without markings, you do, and I've seen one locally at an auction recently. I was convinced it was a Marushin one, but there was no markings either. I hope this gets figured out | |
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DOC Modelgun Perfectionist
Number of posts : 234 Location / Country : Not so Great Britain Registration date : 2008-09-07
| Subject: Re: Help Identify this Zinc & Steel MP40 Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:49 am | |
| Its TRC Tokyo Replica company copied from the Nakata model except TRC used a zinc trunnion instead of Nakatas nylon one and the Nakata barrel extends through the trunnion and TRC one is cut short same as the Marushin.
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JohnnyV Modelgun Perfectionist
Number of posts : 552 Location / Country : Cambridgeshire UK Registration date : 2009-08-24
| Subject: Re: Help Identify this Zinc & Steel MP40 Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:57 am | |
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Last edited by JohnnyV on Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:06 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : added TRC History link) | |
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JohnnyV Modelgun Perfectionist
Number of posts : 552 Location / Country : Cambridgeshire UK Registration date : 2009-08-24
| Subject: Re: Help Identify this Zinc & Steel MP40 Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:21 am | |
| Hi Kiwigunner!
Note that it seems to have its own Magazine design? deeper from front to rear, not compatable with Marushin/real mags without heavy modification. | |
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kiwigunner Modelgun Master
Number of posts : 556 Age : 74 Location / Country : Auckland/New Zealand Registration date : 2010-03-10
| Subject: Re: Help Identify this Zinc & Steel MP40 Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:55 am | |
| Wow! Thanks guys! ' ' Isn't this Forum just a fantastic source of information - again I appreciate fact that everyone supports the sharing of their knowledge & experience! So is this a RARE MP40 and worth buying? And what $$ should I think to offer for it? The owner is asking NZ$720.......' ' Cheers, Kiwigunner | |
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smootik Modelgun Perfectionist
Number of posts : 1823 Location / Country : Poland Registration date : 2009-03-03
| Subject: Re: Help Identify this Zinc & Steel MP40 Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:25 am | |
| Duh, how come I did not realize Marushin and Nakata lead to TRC? That explains similarities and differences between the models, as design changed slightly when model migrated from company to company. MP40 offered locally was sold for about 920 NZD. This seems to be a fairly rare model, but supposedly less realistic than plastic Marushin or metal MGC. I decided to look for another model, as I already have MP40 in my collection. If I didn't have any, I would get that one. | |
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JohnnyV Modelgun Perfectionist
Number of posts : 552 Location / Country : Cambridgeshire UK Registration date : 2009-08-24
| Subject: Re: Help Identify this Zinc & Steel MP40 Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:53 am | |
| Also worth a note that because of recoil spring guide length bolt does not go all the way back and lock in the rear latch, not on mine anyway... can someone confirm if it should?
Cheers
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kiwigunner Modelgun Master
Number of posts : 556 Age : 74 Location / Country : Auckland/New Zealand Registration date : 2010-03-10
| Subject: Re: Help Identify this Zinc & Steel MP40 Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:00 am | |
| It does work on this model, according to its owner!
Kiwigunner
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JohnnyV Modelgun Perfectionist
Number of posts : 552 Location / Country : Cambridgeshire UK Registration date : 2009-08-24
| Subject: Re: Help Identify this Zinc & Steel MP40 Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:09 am | |
| ?????? Thats the mystery of model guns Option 1 ) I wonder if rear of my bolt is filled with some resin for extra weight?? will check in morning, seen that before:( Option 2 ) I wonder if we have different bolt types, will the owner take a pic of the back of his bolt?? I know this is asking a lot ! Option 3 ) your guess is as good as mine | |
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JohnnyV Modelgun Perfectionist
Number of posts : 552 Location / Country : Cambridgeshire UK Registration date : 2009-08-24
| Subject: Re: Help Identify this Zinc & Steel MP40 Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:19 am | |
| Solved the bolt return issue! Mine has the bolt handle going right through and screw retained from opposite side, hidden behind some resin looks like a bodge of some kind, my guess is that on a mint bolt the handle is only on the outside, part of bolt casting and at some stage this has broke off and another type has been grafted in there I guess this leaves 3 options 1 cut down the recoil spring guide a bit, 2 get new cast bolt (unlikely !!) 3 Use a marushin plastic bolt, they do fit:) This model get more compilcated all the time, still not unusuak for modelguns | |
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kiwigunner Modelgun Master
Number of posts : 556 Age : 74 Location / Country : Auckland/New Zealand Registration date : 2010-03-10
| Subject: Re: Help Identify this Zinc & Steel MP40 Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:26 am | |
| Hi Johnny - good sleuthing! Here's pics of the Bolt face detail, trunnion barrel end, and the bolt locked in position: It appears that the bolt handle can be totally removed from the bolt! (looks like the extractor needs a repair??) This one looks like it is a non-firing version??? It would be good to compare with some photos of your MP40. Kiwigunner | |
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