MGC Mauser HSc

OK simple question
I have one of these models, firing model, BUT I simply cannot see an ejector on it????? nor where one would go???
it chambers, fires, but even manually there is no ejection since there is no ejector..... cart is pulled back by extractor but how is it meant to eject with no ejector.
Maybe I am not seeing the wood for the trees, but there simply is no ejector or place for an ejector to fit???

Please advise if you can shed any light or if you have a parts diagram

OK
A bit more research and I have answered my own question

Take a look at the picture below:

The ejector is on the magazine ??? I myst admit I have not seen this before!
this pic was found on a Japanese site, and I can now see the place on my mag where it has snaped off at some point in time, I must say I am not suprised it snaped off! a very unusual design and flimsy at that.
I do not know if the real gun was like this or not? I suppose a bit more reading required!!

next step is to work out a beeter solution and get this model going properly!!

Wow that's a first and with mag metal being mild steel i wouldn't have thought it would last long

8ace

Indeed !! not the best peice of design

Still after a long night SOLUTION !

build in a new ejector, space very tight but managed it in the end




Sorted

Before modification picture:

JohonnyV,

Isn't this "quack action" (slide start move along with you pull the trigger, hammer is actually not functioning)?
If so, I would assume an ejector sits top side of mag.

S

Hi Katsuro

No its not the "quack /tanio action" model, it is one of the old "dummy round" types desingned to manually cycle rounds, there is no quack mecahnism (I have ppk with that action) . I recived no dummy rounds with the model but am using modified .32 acp ppk rounds with single cap. there is no blowback because pin in barrel is to short but bang and smoke is nice:) then manualy rack the slide to eject and chamber next round.
MAYBE I will try to put longer det pin in to barrel to make it full blowback model, but because det pin is cast into barrel this is a tricky job.... but it would be great as blowback model......hhhmmmm must think if its worth it!

Does a quack action still eject never seen one in action

It does in MGC Walther PPK.

Yes - I can concur, my MGC Walther does too!

Great solution 8ace! ''

Question: how did you determine the HEIGHT of the ejector pin: before or after installation? ''

Kiwigunner

Hi Kiwigunner

Indeed 8ace does come up with the majority of the best solutions, but this one was mine

well the max height of the ejector was determined by the slide underside (I would have liked it a bit higher but the clearance was not there. Anyway I set the steel peice in the frame first then kept taking a shaving off the top untill the slide went on with no fouling on the ejector, i was worried that it was a bit to low but when tested it was fine.
the width was also set by the existing parts in the top slide, so kept it as wide as possible for strength.
ie everthing was decided after installation:)

ATB
JohnnyV

OOPS! ''
Sorry about the confusion between you two! I kinda associate you both together for your great skills in Modelguns! I guess I can't read either! ''
Thanks for the details: shows how much thought and work goes into what seem "simple" solutions!

Kiwigunner

Sorry to hijack the thread, but I have s question:
I aquired a used Mauser HSc (with 'ejector' on the mag ) and seem to have a strange problem: with the safety UP in firing position, it won't fire, neither double nor single action. With the safety lever DOWN on safe, both double and single action work fine

Any ideas? And how to set things straight?

Unfortunately, the internals are not very faithfull to the real steel. I'm trying to get an old spec deactivated Mauser HSc before april 8, with working trigger group, but no luck. Would complement my Heckler & Koch Mod. 4, which is sort of its grandchild, design wise...

JohnnyV wrote:

Hi Katsuro

No its not the "quack /tanio action" model, it is one of the old "dummy round" types desingned to manually cycle rounds, there is no quack mecahnism (I have ppk with that action) . I recived no dummy rounds with the model but am using modified .32 acp ppk rounds with single cap. there is no blowback because pin in barrel is to short but bang and smoke is nice:) then manualy rack the slide to eject and chamber next round.
MAYBE I will try to put longer det pin in to barrel to make it full blowback model, but because det pin is cast into barrel this is a tricky job.... but it would be great as blowback model......hhhmmmm must think if its worth it!

I have also started playing with the idea of Marushin .32 cartridges.
Detonator pin is obviously too short to reach the cap/piston inside cartridge and generate recoil.

Has anyone tried using 2 "front pistons" inside a Marushin .32 - without measuring and calculating, this should get closer to the action we are chasing ??