All metal Colt Single Action revolvers?

Yes, as the topic title reads; who can shed some more light on these? Who made them; who made open barrel/cylinder models; who made the "best" ones and so on...I want to know!

There are some nice MGC and Kokusai here on Gunstar.
http://www.gunstar.co.uk/All-Guns-for-sale?sstr=replica

REPLIBOND wrote:

singleaction wrote:

Yes, as the topic title reads; who can shed some more light on these? Who made them; who made open barrel/cylinder models; who made the "best" ones and so on...I want to know!

The best 'japanese' ones are MGC for resiliance both 1974 models and .44-40 manufactory -1974 had the better action; Kokusai were beautiful both with open chambers/ barrels and closed 10.77; CMC 1968 models with open chambers and 'velvet' lined box. The original NAKATA were awesome because they were the first. There were undoubtedly others, but my era was the 1980's - MKK,Marushin, etc, and I will leave that to others to comment on.

Interesting, indeed   - did MGC make any open barrel/chamber model? And what is "10.77" that you mention regarding the Kokusais? If you have anything more to add I'm an eager listener; I LOVE the SAA's

The SAA is my favorite modelgun as well:)

OK just a quick list of my order of preference (relating ONLY to metal models).

BEST
1 CMC 68 SAA
2 CMC later blocked barrel models
2 Tanaka (uses same mold as above CMC)
3 Kokusai Classics
4 Marushin SAA
5 MGC 44/40
6 Kokusai "SMG" 10.77
WORST

Lots of factors affect each persons choice, if open barrel is important to you , then you will have to sacrifice "realism" of markings etc,

JohnnyV wrote:

The SAA is my favorite modelgun as well:)

OK just a quick list of my order of preference (relating ONLY to metal models).

BEST
1 CMC 68 SAA
2 CMC later blocked barrel models
2 Tanaka (uses same mold as above CMC)
3 Kokusai Classics
4 Marushin SAA
5 MGC 44/40
6 Kokusai "SMG" 10.77
WORST

Lots of factors affect each persons choice, if open barrel is important to you , then you will have to sacrifice "realism" of markings etc,

Which ones of these were made with open barrel/chambers? Did Tanaka make any?

Anyone got any pics of some Kokusai Classics SAA's? I've been googling around, but only been able to find newer ones, like the 10.77's and 9.78's... I'd love to see what the classics look like

Hi
Try here: http://plugfirecapgunsuk.com/PhotoAlbumsPro/Kokusai_Classic_SAA/#/0
brief "sales" description here : http://plugfirecapgunsuk.com/Western_Models_Normal.html

JohnnyV wrote:

Hi
Try here: http://plugfirecapgunsuk.com/PhotoAlbumsPro/Kokusai_Classic_SAA/#/0
brief "sales" description here : http://plugfirecapgunsuk.com/Western_Models_Normal.html

Ah, OK; so that's the classic! Made around 1990, right? At first I thought the classics were much older models. Agree, Johnny; a really beautiful replica! Did Kokusai make any open barrel/chambers models in the beginning?

Hi
I have not seen any Kokusai metal models with open barrels........yet
I do not think they made any

JohnnyV wrote:

Hi
I have not seen any Kokusai metal models with open barrels........yet
I do not think they made any

Been checking around a bit, seems like the earliest CMC 68's had problem with the lock up, something they corrected during the third or so manufacturing round. Also, they closed up the barrel already in 1976, in advance of the gun law change. So, a CMC 68 from around 1975 would be something I wouldn't mind laying my hands on, I think

Yep they are very nice, ( I have a few:)  pics below )
Note also the "68" has a twin............... The TRC SAA   

They are not cheap, but they are unique !!

JohnnyV wrote:

Yep they are very nice, ( I have a few:)  pics below )
Note also the "68" has a twin............... The TRC SAA   

They are not cheap, but they are unique !!

Oh, you... now that got my mouth watering, did you have to do this to me?

My favourite has got to be the Bat Masterson by Marushin if we are talking about Japan-made replica SAAs. Otherwise, the Uberti made Doc Holliday (for the Franklin Mint Co) is super cool   
The RMI Model 1974 is also very good. I have to add my judgement is based on the interchangeability of parts for real Colt ones - (innards only) - for durability.
Here's my favourite : The Special Edition Bat Masterson , one of 1000, and it's gold plated. It fieldstrips just like the original unlike the ordinary run-of-the-mill Bat Masterson. It comes with different grips and is the most accurate all-metal replica SAA I know of ? All markings are indistinguishable to the real McCoy.


As you can see, it's a traditional black powder frame and comes in its original case, with original cardboard box as well as paperwork & inert shells for display.
Broomie

broomie wrote:

My favourite has got to be the Bat Masterson by Marushin if we are talking about Japan-made replica SAAs. Otherwise, the Uberti made Doc Holliday (for the Franklin Mint Co) is super cool   
The RMI Model 1974 is also very good. I have to add my judgement is based on the interchangeability of parts for real Colt ones - (innards only) - for durability.
Here's my favourite : The Special Edition Bat Masterson , one of 1000, and it's gold plated. It fieldstrips just like the original unlike the ordinary run-of-the-mill Bat Masterson. It comes with different grips and is the most accurate all-metal replica SAA I know of ? All markings are indistinguishable to the real McCoy.


As you can see, it's a traditional black powder frame and comes in its original case, with original cardboard box as well as paperwork & inert shells for display.
Broomie

Those Bat Mastersons can't be fired though, right? Although you might wouldn't want to, anyway - to damn good looking

Hi Singleaction,
I have never tried to fire mine so I cannot tell you. Thye cylinder of the Limited Edition is quite different from the other ordinary run-of-the-mill Bat Mastersons, on the Limited Edition the cylinder can chamber some kind of cartridge (probably PFC type) cos the ring is set a lot further forward in the cylinder. But you're right, I wouldn't want to as it's gold plated   
If you are seriously into the Old West scene, let me know. I am curious as to whether you're into re-enactment or just into the guns only ?  
The cowboy era was a time when the black powder frame was more prevalent, smokeless frame was only introduced in the SAA when the wild west was no longer wild, i.e. 1895   
Broomie

Hi
Yes the Bat Masterson is a very nice model !!!

Anyone who knows anything about the Asahi Eagle SAA's? Just found out about them, never heard of before - intriguing

Nope, any chance of some pics of it or a link   
Love to see what it looks like   
Broomie

A pic of the Asahi Eagle SAA.
I think it was built by Marushin for the Asahi brand. Not many about....

Right !!! I saw one on GunBroker a while ago. A Japanese acquaintance bought it   It's really quite rare. The one I saw is gold plated though ...
Thanks for the pic, where did you find it    Very cool.
Broomie

broomie wrote:

Right !!! I saw one on GunBroker a while ago. A Japanese acquaintance bought it   It's really quite rare. The one I saw is gold plated though ...
Thanks for the pic, where did you find it    Very cool.
Broomie

Here you go, a whole page on the Asahi:
http://www.geocities.jp/digi_hiro2000/asahieaglesaa.html

Thanks for that    Are you looking for one by any chance   
Let me know as I have contacts in Japan who might be able to get you one (no guarantee) but all I can do is ask   Don't know the cost either.
Broomie

broomie wrote:

Thanks for that    Are you looking for one by any chance   
Let me know as I have contacts in Japan who might be able to get you one (no guarantee) but all I can do is ask   Don't know the cost either.
Broomie

Not really looking for an Asahi at the moment, besides I'm led to believe it can be quite difficult in finding spare parts for this one in case of anything broke...but in the future perhaps...
Is your Bat Masterson out on GunBroker as of now, btw?

Should you need something from Japan, so long as it's VCRA exempt, I can put you in direct contact with a Japanese friend of mine who might be able to help you out. I will cut myself out of the loop that way   
Personally, I can't see anything that cannot be replaced with genuine Colt parts should something break on the Asahi ? Looking at the pics on the link you provided , the innards are pretty much the same.
No, The Marushin Bat Masterson Limited Edition is out on Gunstar (UK) not GunBroker (US). Thanks for asking   
Broomie