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PostSubject: Spring blowback shell ejecting toy guns?   Spring blowback shell ejecting toy guns? Icon_minitimeThu Apr 25, 2024 7:48 pm

Not sure what category to put these in... some of them are basically model guns without the caps, some are NERF, some are airsoft-adjacent... Anyway, been seeing a lot of these lately, and some of them are pretty cool. No need to chase down rare 7mm caps either!


https://youtu.be/12ik09eI8RI?si=9yGVzSaX_Z9GTjKY
https://youtu.be/m9fkWoDB_us?si=lVrqoWCVBLMYweM0
https://youtu.be/PyHwDiyyZHM?si=-E9K56ZjFFVULHFc
https://youtu.be/0bLBsCrpxKU?si=JzcpD3sPPmkKWAMq
you get the idea.

There's some interesting electric ones out there too, that I just haven't ponied up the cash for yet ($200-300 for a semiautomatic shotgun for example) but would love to have in my prop inventory!

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PostSubject: Re: Spring blowback shell ejecting toy guns?   Spring blowback shell ejecting toy guns? Icon_minitimeFri Apr 26, 2024 7:51 am

These toys from China are an interesting development. They really beg for modification and a paint job to get more out of them.
I own some marushin shell ejecting GBB's from the 90's (internal gas reservoir in the pistol) and from about ten years ago (1911 and cz75) with gasmagazines and room for shells.
They are fantastic. Although they leak gas easily after some time. To get them to function best, the keyword is pressure.
Great gimmick and alternative for model guns.
I like the APS CAM870 also. It can hold quite some power in the gascartridges to even shoot .68 paint balls with considerable force. Only thing missing is the smoke and fire. Would be great if one day airsoft and pfc would be combined in some way for ultra realism.

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PostSubject: Re: Spring blowback shell ejecting toy guns?   Spring blowback shell ejecting toy guns? Icon_minitimeFri Apr 26, 2024 4:09 pm

There have been some that combined airsoft and caps. I have a few. They were... odd, cheaply made, ill-proportioned... but I wish more had been done like that.
https://youtu.be/1Ra-xJpDkgw?si=PN1Dnn9SyLZ6ekvz&t=283


I'm also a fan of the APS and PPS shotguns. Need to do more experimenting with smoke effects: https://youtu.be/2Pdss1Q4N6I?si=XJt-DmTy749ictcG

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PostSubject: M1 Carbines   Spring blowback shell ejecting toy guns? Icon_minitimeThu May 23, 2024 2:13 am

I cannot really read the white print.

I just had a sec to say I think I have in Armory M1 Carbine that has cartridges that I think might be spring loaded.  My Carbines are dressing I can stage with the Thompsons.  Garands are TOO BIG, NOT HAVE SPACE. Also, I'm pulling in Denix as samples for engineering, but the Denix Garand was noted for poor stock fit. Pulling Garands from Japan is costly.

If anyone wants to see what Japanese "not so special" Carbines are shipping cartridge wise, I'' pull it.

Sorry to interject, it was either ignore the post or ask forgiveness.

Ah heck, it's coming to me, there are a few spring guns, I think the M1 Carbines are one shot at a time spring action. But they DO have a fancy cartridge.

Later,

Jay
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Fight Designer wrote:
Not sure what category to put these in... some of them are basically model guns without the caps, some are NERF, some are airsoft-adjacent... Anyway, been seeing a lot of these lately, and some of them are pretty cool. No need to chase down rare 7mm caps either!


https://youtu.be/12ik09eI8RI?si=9yGVzSaX_Z9GTjKY
https://youtu.be/m9fkWoDB_us?si=lVrqoWCVBLMYweM0
https://youtu.be/PyHwDiyyZHM?si=-E9K56ZjFFVULHFc
https://youtu.be/0bLBsCrpxKU?si=JzcpD3sPPmkKWAMq
you get the idea.

There's some interesting electric ones out there too, that I just haven't ponied up the cash for yet ($200-300 for a semiautomatic shotgun for example) but would love to have in my prop inventory!

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PostSubject: Re: Spring blowback shell ejecting toy guns?   Spring blowback shell ejecting toy guns? Icon_minitimeThu May 23, 2024 6:54 pm

I have one of these toys. The one I have is based on the Walther CP99 for some reason. For those who don’t know, the CP99 is the .177 pellet firing 8 shot rotary magazine version of the P99, storing a C02 cartridge in the magazine and with a sliding safety catch on the right side of the frame.
The toy does a superb job at replicating some of the details, and a rather confusing job with others. The magazine holds the shells just like a real gun, which are a short version of a 9mm. Because of this it doesn’t replicate the CP99 magazine which holds the C02, but it does replicate the base plate, with its twist markings to open or to power the gun, although it doesn’t twist, it is constructed just like a standard magazine.
The safety slide on the frame is exactly the same and works as it should perfectly. The frame is moulded the same shape as the CP99, which is different from the P99.
The slide is a strange thing. It is designed like a standard P99 slide, so it functions like most semi automatic guns. The CP99 is split in two parts, and opens in the middle by pressing the slide release, which on this is exactly that, a slide release.
The markings are exactly as you would expect to find on the CP99, with an embossed Walther logo on the bottom of the grips, and silver lettering on the slide with the Walther logo and CP99. Strangely it also has the calibre marking of .177 and a diagram of an air pellet, even though it doesn’t fire anything. This confuses me as to why they would even put that on it.
Obviously it isn’t designed to replicate the function of the CP99 in any way, but instead that of the P99. The slide cycles when the trigger is pulled and the shell ejects. It doesn’t actually chamber the round, but sort of pops it forward and out of the magazine and then flicks it to the side. It doesn’t really matter as it is good fun. It locks back on empty. Removing the magazine and you can fire it to your hearts content, it just won’t eject the shell (which are gold plastic).
There are different versions of these guns available, from just shell ejecting, shell ejecting and projectile firing (barely) and the version I have is the laser version, and this is why I got it. It basically momentarily lights the laser when you pull the trigger. You can buy various targets which sense when hit and even make a noise like a metal plate being hit, and keeping count of how many hits. For this they are amazing. Perfectly safe for indoor shooting (or outdoor) and great for practicing your aim. There are many different models available (although no P99, only the CP99 😠) which means that often you can practice many different drills safely.
The construction as you may expect is plastic, not polymer, so they are lighter than a real gun and will break if you are not a little careful.
I think I paid about £55 for mine, which is really in my opinion fantastic value considering how much a cheap laser alone will set you back (and yes it is a proper laser). The target I think was about £20 or thereabouts.
To charge the laser you simply plug the gun into a charger (the same type as many not apple phones) although they do supply a usb type charging cable.
Oh, I nearly forgot, the gun came with 12 shells but it only holds 8 in the magazine. Not a big deal, as I mentioned you can simply remove the magazine and fire the gun without it. It also came with a replacement back strap for the grip just like the real P99. So it is kind of like a bastard mix of the CP99 and P99.
Highly recommended for some great practical shooting fun with no mess to clean up afterwards. Hopefully if they increase in popularity we shall see more high end better constructed ones in the future, but they also don’t break the bank. The S&W m&P does look particularly good, and is available in black or tan, as is the Sig. Glocks are available in a variety of colours, but are not really very accurate so far as their replication is concerned, but they are also the cheapest, so choose your flavours 🙂

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PostSubject: Re: Spring blowback shell ejecting toy guns?   Spring blowback shell ejecting toy guns? Icon_minitimeFri May 24, 2024 6:42 pm

What a strange mashup of choices on that P99!

I've now got a mix of cheaper and nicer Glocks and Glock derivatives, a M&P40 (why not just make it the M&P 9, since the shells are closer to that size?), the Hellcat RDP, some shotguns... it's an interesting mix of mechanisms they use, and not 100% standardized on shells, magazines, etc. either.

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