It seems to say the 1911 is all metal and is made in Japan ....hows that then with the gun /sword law prohibiting the manufacture of metal pistols unless they are gold or chromed ??
DOC _________________ We need guns...lots of guns....
.... well anything mechanical that can kill people is interesting ...
Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
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Those made for export are exempted from the law (I owned one of these so I know)...only now the modelgun makers couldn't bothered to do so (so if Kokusai decide to focus on the international market then they can make blued/chrome metal revolvers for the markets outside Japan no problem...).
Someone suggested that these new Kokusai HW & metal revolvers are actually made in Taiwan...so to all of the Japanese members here: please rectify if something mentioned above is incorrect.
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On their FAQ page they state that they do not sell PFC guns & see them as too high-maintenance for their customers. Are you interested in display-only, blank-fire, PFC, etc.? _________________ Rick
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I have purchased 2 of the Keystone Tommys / they are very nice looking non firing replicas / the wood is very very nice looking , only draw back on the wood is it is not that easy to remove ! the wood is held on by screws located inside the lower frame , you need to dismantle the gun to remove the wood . but they do make a more expensive model with the removable rear stock / their chicago model has a sealed drum mag with no internals / the winder will spin around / their military type comes with a stick mag that does have internals / but note that no mgc parts will interchange with these models / breech is sealed off / they are strictly wall hangers / they have working bolt action and flip up rear sight and removable mags . they will not cycle dummy rounds . nice for a looker / but i prefer working firing models. good luck to all on this fourm and Happy Holidays to one and all !
Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
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I noticed Keystone have a series of auctions on Ebay, they are selling a denix Browning Hi-power, anyone have this, have any experience with it. It's cheap at the mo, $30. I know Denix have a rotten rep, but just wondering. I am considering buying some for drop props, keep my real ones safe and sound (plastic ones NG).
Ok, just arrived in Sweden and picked up my package on the way home from the airport.
First impression is extremely positive, this replica feels and looks very, very good. Detail is much to my liking, the frame has all the right levers and moving parts, the slide doesn't have any extractor or firing pin mechanism, which i was hoping for. But the barrel has the correct type of swinging link, the barrel even seems to lock in the slide when it is in battery. The grip scales seems to be made out of real wood, they look extremely nice!
I'm gonna handle these some more and take them apart completely, but so far if anyone is looking for a super-sweet and nice 1911A1 replica this is it! Too bad it wasn't a true cap-firing modelgun, but...
I'll shoot some pictures later this week and post.
I'm, very please with both the service and the goods from KAR btw!
(btw, Mark, as these are rather replicas then true modelguns, is it still ok to post about them??) _________________ I need more model guns...
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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
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Yes, they are technically modelguns due to they where offered by MGC as a kit during the 1970's and i do believe that MGC made a firing version of the .45 government therefore, they are "modelguns"
What would be cool is to make some sort of firing pin as well as the other parts to make it fire caps. My old MGC made zinc .45 that i bought from the collectors armory back in the 1980's, had the "firing plate" as well as the proper cap firing barrel (missing the detonator) still in it. It really looked sharp in the 1943 Boyt holster that i had it in..... _________________ Wanted to buy: MGC Sten MK3....trades?(still)
MGC MP40 Marushin MP40 Nakata MP40 TRC MP40
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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
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Some of these US made items are good - not Model Gun I've found , and some of this stuff is distinctly Spanish in origin - the SMLE is a Denix item I'm sure . As is the Thompson - pretty positive .
If so these are the Denix items designed just as the factory had a fire , and were imported into UK in limited numbers ......with the import ban looming , one guy tried to sell a SMLE to me for £300 !! ($600USD) . I see now that things have settled these are availablke in UK aagain , at a reasonable price ..pheww !
There are/were some nice Broomhandle mausers floating around that looked like the cheaper Denix but were actually an unknown maker - again inert non gun and not pfc etc etc. _________________ First they took away our Real Guns , Now Airsoft , Next Airguns - should have stuck to Stamp Collecting ..
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I agree, most probably they are made by Denix. The 1911 is not made by Denix though. I've seen and handled the Denix quite a lot and the 1911 from Keystone is very different _________________ I need more model guns...
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Subject: Re: Keystone Arsenal Replicas... anyone know anything? Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:29 pm
I've just been browsing their site, and noticed that they have a custom M1A1 for what seems like an okay price (489 USD)
These M4s look too detailed to be Denix as far as I know. Denix modelsI have seen will not chamber rounds for example. It'd be interesting to know how much Keystone charge for these. If they strips down cmpletely as per the original, have realistic internals then these could be of great interest.
Edit: Current Price $439 (normal price $799) They will NOT chamber rounds either, but they still look amazingly good
Also getting back to the Keystone Thompson M1A1 above, I don't think anyone other than Hudson made replicas of the M1A1 MGC, Denix have made M1921 models in military and Chigago typewriter versions but these M1A1s could be produced by Keystone themselves. They quote 5 days to build one
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Bazooka Joe New Member
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Subject: Re: Keystone Arsenal Replicas... anyone know anything? Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:08 am
Looking at the bolt carrier again, I'm wondering if these are converted GBB airsofts?
JohnnyV Modelgun Perfectionist
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Subject: Re: Keystone Arsenal Replicas... anyone know anything? Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:50 pm
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Also getting back to the Keystone Thompson M1A1 above, I don't think anyone other than Hudson made replicas of the M1A1 MGC, Denix have made M1921 models in military and Chigago typewriter versions but these M1A1s could be produced by Keystone themselves. They quote 5 days to build one
I believe, the Thompsons are "re-worked" Denix models, some custom parts, some parts refinished, but in general quite nice when compared to a "standard" denix.
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Subject: Re: Keystone Arsenal Replicas... anyone know anything? Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:05 pm
JohnnyV wrote:
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Also getting back to the Keystone Thompson M1A1 above, I don't think anyone other than Hudson made replicas of the M1A1 MGC, Denix have made M1921 models in military and Chigago typewriter versions but these M1A1s could be produced by Keystone themselves. They quote 5 days to build one
I belive, the Thompsons are "re-worked" Denix models, some custom parts, some parts refinished, but in general quite nice when compared to a "standard" denix.
It'd be an extensive conversion, the upper receiver and barrel are quite different, the lower receiver and selector switches differ too. There aren't many parts that are interchangeable when you look at them, wooden pistol and foregrip would swap over, there doesn't seem much more that would. Keystone do seem to have made a nice job, it'd be nice to see one in the flesh wouldn't it
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