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PostSubject: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeSun Jan 17, 2010 6:11 pm

Note: this article is based on various sources, mainly from internet and MP40modelgun forums. Information included below may not be accurate.


What are modelguns?
There are three main types of Japanese toy guns that look similar to real guns:
  • dummy: some are made from solid material (metal, plastic, rubber), but many have moving parts and action similar to weapons. Such models usually allow manual cycling of dummy bullets.
  • cap-firing: they not only look realistic, but also produce audiovisual effects by detonating a small cap. Most modern models also use cap energy to cycle model (blowback action).
  • airsoft (ASG): these launch small plastic balls (6mm or 8mm, ~0.2g) using spring-, gas- or electric-powered mechanism. Energy for Japanese models is currently limited to 0.98J.

This article focuses on dummy and cap-firing models known collectively as "Modelguns" (モデルガン).
Airsoft replicas, even if they look like real guns, are not considered to be modelguns (source:Japanese Wikipedia).


Firearms in Japan
Japan had regulations forbidding public possession of weapons (swords) as early as in XVII century. During the Tokugawa period in Japan the government imposed very restrictive controls on gunsmiths in the nation, thereby ensuring the almost total prohibition of firearms.
After WWII Japan was occupied by USA, law enforced by the occupant forbade starting military production and creation of armed forces - only Self-Defense Forces could be created. Japanese "Firearms and Swords Control Law" was one of the most strict in modern world, it begins with "No-one shall possess a fire-arm or fire-arms or a sword or swords". Violation is considered a criminal offence and is severly punishable.


Toygun import
In 1952 American occupation ended and soon after that toyguns became very popular. Initially toyguns were imported from USA and England, made by many manufacturers including Mattel and Nichols. These toyguns have usually been based on Western revolvers and rifles and they were fairly simple. Cap guns as previously known in USA and UK were also introduced at the time, they used caps just to produce sound and sparks.
You can read the following article about cap guns:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cap_gun


Origins of Japanese design
Toyguns were very popular, and Japanese companies that imported them eventually started improving designs, making them more realistic. In early 1960s the idea to construct toyguns in Japan was already very solid. At the time there were three most known companies that imported toyguns: MGC (founded 1959), Ehara/CMC (1960) and Hudson (1960). MGC (Model Guns Company) at the time worked under name "Japan Modelgun Collection Association". Young man, called Tazou Kobayashi (better known under his nickname: Tanio), who dreamed of making replicas for film industry, became the first employee of MGC. He has shown remarkable skills in design and created the first MGC model, a Walther VP-II. I think that around that time term "modelgun" was coined by Mr Kobayashi.
You can see Walther VP-II here:
http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~yon-yon/cgi/mgc/VP2/index.html

At the same time Hudson also worked on creating their first realistic modelgun, Mauser 1896. "Race" between companies was quite tight. Supposedly when Tanio was searching for factory that could produce his design, he has seen Hudson model awaiting production. Hudson was the first to release modelgun in July 1962, followed by MGC a few months later the same year. There is some confusion as to which one has been first, I think that quite often MGC is considered to be the first with their VP-II.

They were actually three variants of VP-II: A, B and C. They all featured innovative "Tanio action" (or "slide action"), where the slide was moved mechanically after the trigger was pulled. The second modelgun released by MGC was a revolver, and the third Walther PPK - also featuring "Tanio action".

These early modelguns were metal (usually zinc alloys), and were fairly realistic. They did not reflect real guns 100%, but were close enough. Modelguns usually had part dimensions changed so that real gun parts could not be used.


Golden period (1960-1971)
In 1960s many Japanese models were designed and manufactured by MGC, and sold to wholesalers such as Ehara (later known as CMC), who were selling them under their own brands. Other companies that existed at the time were Kokusai (reselling MGC models under INT brand) and Nakata (originally military surplus shop).

In mid-1960s modelgun industry started to evolve. MGC started selling modelguns directly under their own brand "MGC BondShop". Other companies stopped buying from MGC and tried to find another manufacturer - the one they found was Marushin Die-cast Industry. Marushin at the time produced various metal elements. Soon all companies started their own design and production, often in cooperation. Nakata founded a joint-venture with Marushin. In 1965 Ehara began cooperation with Minoru Matsumoto who designed and produced in his workshop metal modelguns (his company established was as "Shoei Seisakusho Inc" in 1967, previously named "Matsumoto Seisakusho Inc"). These products were sold under brand name CMC (Colt Model Collection). Keiichi Kunimoto (who worked for Nakata or MGC I think) founded his own company called Western Arms. Another famous designer was Noboru Mutobe, working on design for several manufacturers.

This period was a golden time for modelguns. They were very popular and sold well. In 1963-68 industry used stamped steel for a few models: CMC released Sten MkII, MGC Sten MkIII, MP40, M3A1 (mechanical action) and Sterling, finally Hudson another M3A1. In 1969 manufacturers started marking models with a crown symbol (stamped or as part of mold) to distinguish them from real weapons.

Modelguns were distributed outside Japan mostly by an American company called RMI (Replica Models Incorporated) founded in 1968. RMI distributed many models, coming mostly from MGC (who could not use MGC brand outside of Japan), CMC and Marushin. In 1972 a sister company Unique Imports was created - they both merged in 1980 into Collector's Armoury that is currently one of the largest internet military-related shop.


Modifications in Firearms and Sword Law (1971-1977)
1971 was a bad year for modelguns. On October the 20th "Firearms and Swords" law was amended and included a number of provisions specifically to control modelguns, for example:
- steel was forbidden. Models could be still manufactured from soft metal alloys.
- metal models had to be painted gold or white. Other colours (black, silver) were forbidden.

It took some time for the industry to adjust to these changes. There were periods of time when factories did not work (but employees still had to be paid) as many changes had to be made in the design to move production to plastic. There were also major changes, for example Shoei stopped manufacturing modelguns for CMC, as they specialized in metal, not plastic.

Many new models were now constructed from ABS plastic. Modelguns lost a lot of popularity because plastic was not relistic - models were too light. However that weakness was changed into a strength that saved the hobby.

Tanio Kobayashi designed an innovative Blowback (BK) system, where caps (at the time produced in paper rolls and sheets) could be placed inside a brass cartridge, so that explosion not only produced sound, sparks and smoke, but had enough energy to cycle slide! Metal models had too heavy slides and could not be operated by caps. Plastic construction, source of problem, became source of salvation.

Thanks to this invention modelgun industry had a revival and by mid-1970s modelguns sold well again. In 1975 MGC together with CMC, Hudson and 11 other companies formed an association that agreed on certain modelgun safety rules to avoid problems with law. Models approved by association were stamped with "SM" (Safe Model) letters. Western Arms and several other companies did not join this association at the time.

On the 1st of December 1977 law changed again and became much harder on modelguns. Some of the changes:
- soft metals used in modelguns were now limited by law to 92 hardness in Brinnel scale.
- metal models had to have a blocked barrel. I think it was MGC who came up with idea to mold a steel hardened rod inside softer metal barrel to block attempts at making it pass-through.
- barrel, chamber and other parts had to have slightly changed (smaller) dimensions to prevent installation of real gun parts in models. I am not sure, probably this as already happening earlier.
- metal revolver models now had to have blocked front of cylinder chambers.

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Modelgun design approval system was set up. Modelguns that passed association approval received "SPG" (Safe Plastic Gun) or "SMG" (Safe Metal Gun) marks.

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Due to politics association later split into three. The original was "ASGK" (Air Sport Gun Cooperation). In 1993 Maruzen split and created "JASG" (Japan Air Sport Gun Association). In 2007 Marushin also split and established "STGA" (Safety Toy Gun Association). Every association marks boxes of modelguns with respective seal, while ASGK also manages "SPG" and "SMG" marks that are put on model itself.


Better blowback and other ideas (1979-1990)
Another invention that improved modelguns happened in 1979, when existing paper caps were replaced with caps as we know today. Pyrotechnic material consisting of 0.01g of red phosphorus was now placed inside a small plastic cup that has 7mm or 5mm diameter. That change increased security (by more separation between charges) and allowed better blowback designs thanks to ability of cap to act as a seal inside cartridge.

In 1980s airsoft gained on popularity, compared to modelguns. Earlier airsoft models used either spring power (cumbersome, required cocking after every shot) or external gas tank ("Classic Airsoft") connected via hoses to the model. Tanio Kobayashi preferred realism to power and worked on two aspects: creating a self-contained airsoft gun (ASG), and increasing number of shots fired simultaneously instead of their power. He created a model of Beretta 93R (released by MGC), the first airsoft gun that had gas tank inside magazine. It also allowed shooting series of 3 bbs, which was a unique feature copied from the real gun.

In 1985 CMC production stopped, only their original shop continued operations until 1995. Some of the molds were taken over by Tanaka (originally manufacturer of wooden parts for CMC), who continued some of production. Tanaka also had their own models, designed by Noboru Mutobe. Another company that took over some of CMC molds and production (mostly revolvers) was Hartford Workshop (HWS), who were previously a shop without their own production.

In late 1980s based on "Star Wars" popularity, MGC released translucent modelguns: Automag, Sig P210 and Sig Flash. They could not really be fired (quickly became opaque ;-) ), but allowed to show inner workings of models.

At the time MGC was the largest modelgun company, larger than modern airsoft manufacturers. They have delivered modelguns and airsoft not only to individuals, but also to movie industry in Japan (Nikkatsu, Ishihara Pro, Touhon, Universal Japan) and other countries.

In beginning of 1990s manufacturers experimented with new ideas. Marushin created a cap/gas hybrid, where cap was used only for sound/smoke effects (just like in original modelguns), while gas was used to provide blowback (as in airsoft). Such hybrid worked much more reliably than pure modelgun, as it allowed for a consistent blowback that did not depend on variable cap power. It was not widely produced, though. Only in December 2009 they released a hybrid derringer model that uses cap to produce sound/flash, and gas to launch airsoft bb.

Marushin also manufactured many cheap self-build kits that allowed people to build their own model from parts.


Slow decline (1990-2009)
In 1990 Kokusai factory was destroyed by fire, probably created by burglars. Most molds and production equipment were heavily damaged, and company closed. Brand "Kokusai" was taken over by another company that continued to produce revolver models.

Craft Apple Works, previously a toy shop, started their own production of modelguns and airsoft in 1990. They specialize in small series of high-quality replicas.

Tanio Koba founded his own company "Tanio Koba" and started designing airsoft guns and spare parts. He also designed one modelgun: GM7 (Colt 1911). After 2000 he decided to develop model industry outside of Japan and worked with French Cybergun in 2003, and with Taiwanese KJW to design new airsoft guns. One of his goals was to created a better airsoft gas blowback system that could work in Europe (colder than Japan) and powerful enough to work in large rifle (M4).

In 1993 Shoei (still run by Minoru Matsumoto) returned to modelgun industry - they started designing and manufacturing German WWII long weapons. Shoei first model was FG42 type 1, based on detailed study of real rifle in Royal Military Museum in Brussels (Belgium). Law allows painting long weapons black, that's why Shoei is able to create realistic metal models.

MGC went bankrupt in 1994. According to Tanio Kobayashi, the president of MGC was getting bored with business and his lack of passion for modelguns attributed to this. Some of their molds were bought by KSC - former subcontrator working for MGC. KSC was founded in 1969 as "Kofu Shima Corporation", changed their name in 1995 to "Keesushi Corporation". Other molds and most of production was taken over by Taito and Shin Nihon Mokei. Some time later "New MGC" was created and continued modelgun production until second closing in 2007, hoveber in 2009 a few modelguns were released to celebrate MGC 50th anniversary.

Notoru Mutobe still ran his own design company called "Rokken" (or "Rocken"), specializing in hand-made collectors pieces.

In 1996 "Rampant Classic" company has been founded, with one goal: create a perfect Colt SAA modelgun. They suceeded in producing several high-quality models in short series.

History after 2000 is very mixed. There were some new releases, some companies continued production, but overall modelguns lost a lot of popularity and sales. One of most known designers, Noboru Mutobe, died.

In 2007 Minoru Matsumoto, one of original creators of industry, died too. Shoei is now run by his sons, Tomio and Ichiro, and this family business continues to produce high-quality models every year.

In December 2009 Hudson, the last of the original modelgun companies, closed after the death of president. Hudson was quite innovative when it came to choosing guns for models. They have produced many models that no other company produced, such as Scorpion vz61, PPsh41, Nambu or AK47. Mold for AK47 unfortunately got destroyed in 2005, after producing over 80000 models. Unfortunately remaining stock and molds were destroyed when factory building was put up for sale.

Outside of Japan the only company that produces cap-firing modelguns is Taiwanese WaShan (also known as HwaSan), a brand of YT (Yun Tai Plaything) Corporation. Unfortunately these models are fairly difficult to obtain.


Future (2010-...)
KSC surprised collectors releasing a new modelgun in early 2010.
Only time will show what is the future of modelguns. Even as original companies do not exist anymore, second-hand market is still alive and kicking.


See also these threads:
https://mp40modelguns.forumotion.net/modelgun-general-discussion-f1/more-modelgun-history-please-t764.htm
https://mp40modelguns.forumotion.net/modelgun-general-discussion-f1/who-knows-the-japanese-modelgun-history-t643.htm

Partial list of sources:
"Interview with Tanio Koba" by "Renegade Recon"
http://www.renegaderecon.com/article_details.php?id=11
"Interview with Tomio Matsumoto" by Pat Ohta and Sam Johnson
http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/?filnavn=/articles/shoei_interview/shoei_interview.htm
"VP70 review" by Jeff Chan
http://www.justpistols.co.uk/vp70_chan.htm
"Cartridges for semi- and full-auto" by Nelson Chen
http://www.dentrinity.com/NelsonChen/Whatis/Autocar.htm
"Cartridges for revolvers" by Nelson Chen
http://www.dentrinity.com/NelsonChen/Whatis/Recar.htm
"Different types of caps" by Nelson Chen
http://www.dentrinity.com/NelsonChen/Whatis/Cap.htm
"Modelgun History" by Mark
http://www.mp40modelguns.com/what_is_a.htm
Japanese Wikipedia entry for modelguns (モデルガン):
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%A2%E3%83%87%E3%83%AB%E3%82%AC%E3%83%B3
"History of airsoft gas blowback" by "Renegade Recon"
http://www.renegaderecon.com/article_details.php?id=9
Posts by members of the original MP40Modelguns forum (THANK YOU!):
http://www.mp40modelguns.com/forum2/
Posts by members of the current MP40Modelguns forum (THANK YOU!):
https://mp40modelguns.forumotion.net/

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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeMon Jan 18, 2010 1:33 pm

somewhere in the early years of MGC they also produced a Steel Grease gun , this must have been early sixties as it does not use caps etc but has a wind up mechanical mechanism ..it is also undersized quite a bit.
Id estimate its manufacture 1963-1966 .

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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeMon Jan 18, 2010 2:22 pm

That would explain M3A1 that MGCUK was selling :-) I always thought this was a Hudson (mistaken for MGC in description), but this actually is an MGC that you mentioned here.
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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeMon Jan 18, 2010 2:54 pm

yes it has a large flat coiled spring inside... you wind up the charging handle and when you pull the trigger the bolt rocks backwards and forwards ..kind of like a toy but Not for kids.

its quite a bit smaller than the Hudson Steel one ( although you can`t tell so much here )

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The magazine for the MGC is also very very narrow.

Excuse the state of the Hudson M3 but I need to find someone local who can re-parkerise steel.

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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeMon Jan 18, 2010 3:59 pm

I found this video a little while ago not realising the M3 Grease Gun shown in the second part may well be a "silenced" version of this very early MGC model.

(First part of the video is a KSC M93R with Mg enhanced muzzle flash)


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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeMon Jan 18, 2010 4:38 pm

Hey, that's the one! DOC's description of the action and video definitely match :-)
This is the first time I've seen modelgun operated in "wind-up" way.
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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeMon Jan 18, 2010 5:05 pm

I hadn't realised that the model offered for sale by MGCUK was one of these "clockwork" ones, in fact I didn't realise they existed until I watched that video History of modelgun industry. Icon_exclaim

Francky reviewed an all steel Hudson M3A1 Grease Gun thought to have been made in 1973. That particular model is a blowback cap firer however.

Your article makes for fascinating reading smootik History of modelgun industry. Icon_biggrin It's clearly taken a lot of time researching and writing this. It'll expand further too as contributions are added by experts like DOC and diversify into areas of further discussion.

This article has taught me a lot today, I'm particularly thrilled at the prospect that my MGC / Taito GBB Beretta M93R could very well be one of the first GBB modelguns as designed by Tanio Kobayashi you mention in your article History of modelgun industry. Icon_biggrin

There are threads within the forums' pages giving further detailed information about cartridge and cap design, for example. I'll send you the links, you may be able to use some of these to expand your article if you wanted to.

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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeMon Jan 18, 2010 5:21 pm

Cerwyn wrote:
I hadn't realised that the model offered for sale by MGCUK was one of these "clockwork" ones, in fact I didn't realise they existed until I watched that video History of modelgun industry. Icon_exclaim
Me neither. MGCUK had two of them for sale, one Hudson (that we seem to recognize better) and one MGC (clockwork). I suppose I just remembered both of them under "Hudson metal M3A1", not realizing that there was _another_ steel M3A1.

It is surprising how many models (cap-firing and airsoft) have been in fact designed by so few people. For sure I was not aware that Mr Matsumoto (of Shoei) was involved in CMC! And that so many various mechanisms have been designed by Mr Kobayashi - not only modelguns, but many airsoft as well.

Links about cartridge and cap design will be useful. I started to write about basic designs (BLK, PFC, CP-BLK), but completely lack details on how exactly this evolved in time (except for what is already written).

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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeWed Jan 20, 2010 7:54 am

Awesome smootik, that was a good and awesome read!

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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeWed Jan 20, 2010 3:41 pm

Indeed Very Happy and very informative, it should be on wikipedia bounce

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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeWed Jan 20, 2010 3:53 pm

Great history, thank you, JJ.
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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeWed Jan 20, 2010 4:07 pm

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Indeed Very Happy and very informative, it should be on wikipedia bounce

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I couldn't agree more, smootik's done a superb job already, the exiting prospect is that this will expand as more information comes to light.
I'm looking forwards to learning more and more from this category.

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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeWed Jan 20, 2010 4:55 pm

Many thanks to Smootik (of course Cerwyn as well) by setting this up as the starting point...let's see how we'll go...

Time for me to exercise more on my extremely limited Japanese skill by reading the Japanese websites more carefully...
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jim wrote:
Many thanks to Smootik (of course Cerwyn as well) by setting this up as the starting point...let's see how we'll go...

Time for me to exercise more on my extremely limited Japanese skill by reading the Japanese websites more carefully...

All credit here should be given to smootik, All I did was create a Category for him, it's his work and efforts that are giving us all this fascinating reading History of modelgun industry. Icon_biggrin

It will be a revelation to learn just what is written on the many Japanese web-sites. There must be a wealth not just of History but problem solving and tuning that cannot be un-locked by Google-Translate
I've personally wished for the day someone came forward with some translations... thank you Jim, I think you've just created a job for yourself that'll keep you busy for a looooooong time History of modelgun industry. Icon_biggrin

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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeThu Jan 21, 2010 8:41 am

Then OK - a pat on the back for Smootik...and those who contributes later on... Very Happy

Modification wise I've notice for quite a long time that the Japanese players instead of making parts out from scratch they tend to get 2 guns into one (usually another ruined) - this might not be too suitable for international players like us (usually too costly to do so)...I reckon the custom works carried out by our UK friends here are somehow more effective!

Lucifer seems to be exceptional - partly because machinery is handy for him...

But in general - the Japanese skills/methods aren't bad for reference/inspiration though...

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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeTue Feb 02, 2010 10:58 am

Thanks to shazhib I can get this book even if I'm outside Japan...
History of modelgun industry. 23012010087

"A Man Created MGC" - written by the founder of MGC (once again - not Mr Kobayashi...he's a "great MGC employee" only) detailing the ups and downs of MGC (many trivial I reckon and that's what makes it interesting)...with this book I think I can add quite a lot more on the MGC thread...

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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeTue Feb 02, 2010 6:05 pm

Fantastic! :-D

I'm looking forward to your updates :-)

You are right about Kobayashi-san, he was the first employee - with emphasis on "employee", as he was employed by the person who founded MGC :-) He eventually became CTO (Technical Director) but never was the owner or President as far as I know.

Hmmm, now I need to ask Shazhib for the book, and for Japanese course ;-)
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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeWed Feb 03, 2010 5:56 am

So you better be quick smootik...since this book is a "self-publication" (no formal distribution - the founder took his own money out for this publication) so not too many will be around as you expect...
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PostSubject: who done what !!   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeSat Feb 13, 2010 10:05 pm

hi cerwyn , just a quick one , smootiks history lesson was fantastic , only who done what ! , there have been roumers over the years that mgc did this and that , just what model guns did mgc , hudson etc do !! , regards richard
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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeSat Feb 13, 2010 10:27 pm

Richard,

Do you mean a list of modelguns from each company?

This is a huge task...
I tried to compile a brief list (just models and makers) but will probably give up.
So far I noted over 300 models, without variations such as different MGC 1911 types.
This is not even halfway - nkoinuma's website has more than 600 models, described and photographed:
http://homepage3.nifty.com/nkoinuma/menu.htm
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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeFri Apr 30, 2010 6:26 pm

MGC drawing that shows changes implemented in metal revolvers in 1976. These had to be done to comply with change of the law. This drawing clarifies what is "rod of hardened steel" mentioned on forum a few times, and why drilling barrel is not quite possible.

History of modelgun industry. Mgc_ba10

source: "A Man Created MGC / 50th Anniversary" book, same as Jim mentioned above

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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeMon Feb 20, 2012 6:59 pm

A great read, very informative Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeTue Feb 21, 2012 5:58 am

GO! Smootik! History of modelgun industry. 1498934320

As always your work on the forum here is superb! study study study

Many thanks!

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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeSat Aug 31, 2013 7:07 am

Thanks for the article! I'm still very new to model guns and this gives serious fuel to my new passion. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: History of modelgun industry.   History of modelgun industry. Icon_minitimeMon Aug 04, 2014 8:26 pm

Huge HATS OFF! to you smootik, as I already said in my pm Smile
This really is a great source for information on modelgun history - not just this thread, but all the others on the specific manufacturers, too.
Thanks a ton for this!

One thing I don't quite get: It said here, that Tanio Koba was able to design the cap-driven Blowback mechanism because of the light weight of the plastic slides in the 70s.
Nowadays, you see a few ot the MGC MP40 from 1968 with firecap mechanism - are these all custom built internals? Were there no cap-driven modelguns whatsoever before the late 70s?
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