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Cerwyn Cerwyn (Site Admin)
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| Hudson Scorpion・Vz61 (Overview) SMG is a compact all-metal. Real gun, a fire closed it has been a model of change to hit an open fire. Originally released as a model that appeared in the opening gun metal black, just temporarily, is changed golden muzzle closed again, this model was revived with a history of a rare gun metal black open model. Indeed, its size is the size of a large handgun almost think that it survives as a rare product itself exempt from regulation as a result. More than 20 years standing has since its launch, the original design remains virtually still has not done is sold Sashitaru improvements. The following details are described in the next section, the performance level of villainy is a minimum ignition (laughs). But hear you think like-minded some of the net, said: "18 out of 10 difficulty," "would like an apprentice who still capable of operating smoothly," "動Kan anyway" and so on, but as ornaments anyway Such assessment is not worth it, I regret that the model of inevitable mess with ease. The topic of this I dabbled it recklessly (fearless), got addicted to the points of your code verbatim predecessors nicely. Refuse to leave first. The tone is still far from complete. Here, in a sense, the history of my struggle (and failure records of failure) are well. (Conceived and frustration many named adjustment) Body Part 1 (1) Stock First, before entering the adjustment, so clear the way stock. In this stock. The operation is not affected, other things (!) Is one of the drawbacks. I find that the fixed site receiver end, a notch is cut into the stock for a fixed, but the projections are provided in the body can get stuck in it, only the right projection. Therefore, the weak fixed level, since they lick just around the corner, walked around for a while now. If you have purchased is recommended that you removed in haste. The stock is also on the right side of the notch, for some reason left behind (!) There as well. Come on, for what? (2) decomposition method To split your body up and down the back of the receiver screws (fixing screws Bakkari Perhaps the old design. One of the drawbacks, too) but removing it when I had to remove the rear end lifted slightly, catching pop magazine Masu. Then, you will be attacked even Rikoirusupuringu lift. Please be careful. (3) Suri合Wase Bolt body, bolt in contact with the inside, and polished the chamber. This area is a common task. Is sufficient and also the internal parts of the frame Suri合Wase. Too many & especially troublesome that the number of parts I do not think. Magazine Edition 2 One of the major culprit. At the brink of what a boss (laughs). When you buy, I think that will come with 6 from the cart, you will operate normally in the range from 6. However, if you load from more than 7 ・ ・ ・. Work. Really. There is a step back gibberish magazines, and seven from the over load, to be located under the first bullet of this step, the step may catch the rim of the cart when the cart is raised, this will not be rising. To prevent this, filled in some way unnecessary space within, so must the cart up and down smoothly. I cut the plastic sheet, laminated them, then create a part that will fit just plug Dearimasu. Also, this is not just. I noticed after firing at Rikoirushokku It comes out next bullet. And once, as soon as you fire the first bullet, second bounce, the first came out with three bullets. This symptom is down for now. Later, through the Internet, "the idea of a weak magazine spring," and for your feedback, along with a set of springs for the original model was unknown Rikoirusupuringu In emergency rough but junk. To prevent backlash along floors, fixed electrical wiring for peg fork (full name unknown) has been made to bite the floor. Cart Part 3 (1) original cart The big culprit. The emergence of the strongest boss! Early carts are made of plastic are used for packing, then the rubber O-ring instead has led to the current. Along with that, the diameter of the piston has changed slightly. The performance does not change much either way. The Pequena. First, the poorer performance of the gasket seal gas other than a closed system cart. Then a short piston stroke, and the cave is open from the middle, so I feel are missing from a gas sufficient power to transmit to the vault. Fairly dirty inside the body other than the cave chamber in relation to it. The main cart is to be divided by the screw rim, shallow rim section, and it set the case portion so placed over the rim, so easily swell of the case in gas pressure, and It's right next to where the firing of the screw, the gas would leak when swelled considerably by the pressure of firing case. Not ignite the gas used effectively for that. When it comes to the worst on the low capacity gas seal. The last line, and repeat the fire many times, this bulging part, changes shape and becomes unusable. ('ll Face crying wasp!) However, even though the inner diameter of five millimeters inside the cap design, 5.5 mm (half-whopping!) And so, kind of inner peace can not be used for other models. In my opinion, of seeking perfection in this cart would work extremely hard. (2) Remodeling Cart So I do not think of other models diverted cart This point was confirmed in all other such carts can not be diverted from the conclusion referred to. Due to the curve magazine took me a cart and accept no taper. Only then, can only be produced after a new cart. What to say, and there is also material made from small ones like that are impossible because there is also an amateur technical facilities. Also, if at all production to a new contractor, it is clear a substantial cost. Eye spots, but then, the PP Marushin PFC happened was owned cart. Original length is almost the same fraction of the diameter of the rim and went about a PPK for the greater. PPK and turning for the external dimension, seems to have been I mean, can be used with a taper. Find companies were turning on the net, from a small private eye Fortunately, if you found a trader even small orders, not to talk about (the cartridge of a model that clearly description) was hope, readiness could be obtained. Since delivery of the profession to do in their spare time hope to see that month. Price drop was that the minute. Incidentally, at the request of eight development process, from 400 yen per one processing fee (tax). High or low or left to your discretion. Final Adjustments 4 (1) remodeling cart Well, after ordering, get the cart finally converted after a month too. Chuck (to hold body parts turning to be processed) in relation to the rim is not attached to a tapered section tapered case is marked with solid, long, both in diameter, almost as the original . Surface texture shall find more than the original! As expected, professional job! Immediately, from 8 to load the magazine. Loading completed smoothly without catching anything, relieved. Then, body fitted, manually operated bolt, your weapon and confirm the operation of the exhaust pod. Not be kicked out at some exhaust pod, it is also true that the original OK and OK. The magazine also does not cause concern hitches. To enhance gas seal, and make your own punch Intensushito at 6 mm and 3 mm from 1 mm thick rubber sheet, set the rim section. (2) Remodeling Ditoneta Ditoneta is still a bit short of the original, but has to cut the tip of the screw anything negative, PFC cart if you decide to use that barbara sick. But even saying coined by simply processing the existing screws, that's easy for me as well. Locate the screw holes for fixing the match was cut into the chamber, cut to proper length, the tip of the PFC process to fit into the recess of the inner plug of the cart. Once the chamber after a set. When you check into your cart and it stops a little short of completely shutting down bolts, and I understand these kind of things well. After that, filling the cap 5 mm, only fire. (3) firing results Referred to the conclusion, to express the number 60 (of sweetness) is. First, the performance of the modified cart is sufficient. Intensushito when combined, can get back the amount of full stroke. Center and also the cap after use, is pierced a hole in the clear. If it were almost certainly cart will be ejection jams, is obviously expected performance. But an unexpected problem has occurred for that. Rikoirushokku for strong, now on their own, semi-shear behavior of the shock, even to the full selection. At first I did not know the cause, finally, part name "relay" to understand that the chief instigator, taking a spring that came with the guy with the Furuonri tighten the screws in place. This condition is now somehow this can be avoided. After all, the last issue was the magazine. To the first bullet is fired, when the bolt is retracted, the magazine out of the cart away the following bullet after the shock, which causes Jamurimasu. Is there a problem with either spring clips, we have not considered an embarrassment for good measure. Would interfere with a narrow lip bolts. I once succeeded in five of fire, and later still jam occurs. To load only three minutes from the blowback is going to clean ・ ・ ・ fire. If fire is but a small metal bolt from the shock it will be considerably faster rotation, greater firing sound is quite delightful. But the sad ・ ・ ・. (Summary) After the purchase, finally finished remodeling cart standing near three months, while firing an incomplete (but only three of fire) is now available. I really wanted to succeed in the original cart, in my arms and it is impossible to judge chose the road of remodeling cart. In a way that everyone should feel free to do so no longer, in that regard is not satisfactory. In addition, new problems also occur on the magazine, I have to wait until the situation even further progress in this regard. However, only three of fire, full auto fire when there was a good impression struggled minutes (excuses, deception, self-pity.) Unique style, black metal body, such as a mass model for a small but strong presence. If you have been telling me that "these difficult times, but only that the existence value is in good black metal." I think it is. Presence of only ornament is a pity as the standard model (laughs) If you think is good. The drawback is a little expensive, if one kept on hand, it adds depth to the depth and width of your collection. (Such as fire caused the attack scenes) The firing of single scenes look at first 4 shots, two from the next scene is a concatenation of three from the end of full firing. It is embarrassing makeshift video. Rotate faster than expected, and never a blink from 3 from 4. I've found a cart after firing once, the number of mistakes I do not think the firing. As mentioned above, the incomplete state still (likely to be charged rap on the knuckles and what is going on in the firing sequence of development only three) and can be introduced to everyone in is not, ANO model rather than the usual target Vz61 in that, I also like that from the slump could be over now and maybe my poor future adjustment, I've taken to make sure that once recorded. The last time it may become ・ ・ ・ maybe. I thought, a bridge between the left and right of Lightning broke the front of the bolt! Impact on the operation is unknown, but hey, do not care. The figurines from the end anyway, Hahaha・・・ (twitched). Paying stock has taken. Bring to a fire that does not work just come to mind here Yara Yara random stroll away because the stock is a fool for this! The model I have used was obtained, we have gas bypass is provided in detail yet, so the gas can not be removed. I think I'll expand a little, take one more motivation for what felt like a waste. The model gas bypass is closed (or relatively new?) It seems that too. Recently has been taken care of from the net 10 moongam PPK's kindness Itadakimashita transfer it to cart. But what will not do anything but increase the cart in this situation are currently working Maybe I should ask it again. (The two scenes that caused a fire attack) 2002.7.28 Since firing the first shot to leave Orimashita much. Honestly, I thought I should forget what it is. It happens, the mulberry Marushin PPK found in the shop cart, [Wow ~ I have to like the "He was impressed when looked at idly," It's a scorpion or to use? "Is thought "Act II Dotsu com" beginning. I say leave first. This also failed A miscellaneous adjustment (or rather futile struggle) First, the processing chamber is required. As it does, PPK cart is put it expand inside the chamber. Patiently shaved by electric drills. Ditoneta is ready for use. The fire will be completely closed in front of the bolt, bolt does not matter much because it is open. Magazine issue. Again, the cart is not under poor compatibility taper (or, what have I nicely cart?) And look at how six from the first because I Tsukkae you in loading carts from seven or more. Middle of the magazine and could possibly have narrowed the space around the apex of the curve. However, even when the bolt is retracted from 6, the next bullet will protrude. We plunged into the wood to raise from the bottom of the magazine, to strengthen the spring tension will not work, try to somehow rip a small adjustment. To operate manually, but somehow gone out the next bullet, when the blowback of whether explosives can not be optimistic. But I'll stick to the limit, so it is around here. As reported last bolt, I broke the bridge to operate without regard to use and it will likely be impeded. Also, the strong Ekisutorakutasupuringu replace the bolt, slightly expanded the cart where the rim fits (PPK rim of the cart is a little bigger than the original) to ensure retention of the cart when the exhaust pod. 2 attack symptoms Put the cap to 5 mm with a cart, from set 6. Fire immediately. First fire one shot, jams, is the second fire, jam, Tsutomu Shigeru 3.4.5 continuous firing from the first, jams, six conclusions from the first fire. ... No! Then, fire up many times, from four consecutive ignition limit. do not progress and success is almost certainly from 3! Jam seems to be the cause of all the magazines. Once progress has been recorded since Orimashita "burst capability should not be there from 3 (?) Got the scene Vz61 firing" (makeshift how!) To edit that (laughs). All three are from each firing. Rotation is still fast, but one shot would look in some way, please believe me! It is from 3! Please see become a laugh. The last time worked and why PPK type known as PFC's do not use a cart because of frequent fire, causing symptoms that swells the rim, because the performance fell. In terms of pure performance of the cart, the more I also mulberry. However, because the thin tapered tip, such as PFC would probably hopeless. More rest, get a real gun for the magazine, I only think of to try to allow the body to process it uses. The main spring seems a little weak. Occasionally misfire occurred. Long thin spring like this, so are not familiar with any other troubled as to divert. I have just done again on a whim, perhaps because previous experience had not too disappointed. I enjoyed it quite the opposite. If so surely fire from three, and I think the pre-ignition, you can enjoy plenty of blowback instant impact. Well, it is sour grapes. I'll try and think of something. _________________ Cerwyn
Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria. also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.
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| HUDSON Vz61 SKORPION VIDEO #1 HUDSON Vz61 SKORPION VIDEO #2 _________________ Cerwyn
Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria. also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.
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| HUDSON THOMPSON M1A1 ハドソン製トンプソンM1A1 お待ちかね。久し振りの大物、ハドソン社製の全金属製トンプソンM1A1の登場。 といっても私の所有物ではない。同好の士「九州男児さん」所有の逸品である。 しばらく前に、「古いハドソントンプがあるけど、いじってみない?好きにしてよかよ」と話を持ちかけられ、「何も保証しないけど、それでもいいなら」ということで、お借りしたものである。目的は当然にCP発火ブローバック。 さて、今回はいかが相成りますやら・・・。 プロローグ 「ねえねえ。手元に古いハドソントンプがあるんだけど、そっちに送ったら何とかなる?」とご連絡いただいたのが事の始まり。 聞けば、シルバーメッキ!のハドソンM1A1トンプソンがご自宅で寝ているとのこと。以前、お父上がお知り合いの方からお礼として譲り受けられたもの(この経緯がなかなかに面白い)というお話であった。 入手直後発火を試みられたらしいが不発に終わり、何とかしようと思いながらそのままになっていたものだそうである。 それが今回、変なオッサン(←私^^ のサイトを発見し、「おっ、このオッサンならおだてりゃ、何とかするかもしれんばい」と考え、猫なで声(笑)で依頼されてこられたという次第。 依頼内容は「フルオートブローバック!!」。調整の過程で、煮こうが焼こうが(←無理だって・・・)、「好きにしてよか!」との頼もしいお言葉。 お聞きした限りでは、付属するのはカート(キャップ火薬使用タイプということだけで詳細は不明)が1発のみ。取説なしということ。 私自身初めて触るモデルなので、古い「GUN誌」から資料を探し、事前に概要を把握。 1980年5月号には、かの「ジャック天野さん(ネモ忠)さん」の詳細なインプレッション(紙火薬モデル)が掲載されていたし、1984年6月号には伝説的名人「ロック戸部さん(あの六人部さん!)」の調整記事が掲載されており、大変助かった。また、現行モデルに関しては2000年4月号に紹介記事が掲載されている。 しかし相手は名にしおうハドソン、それもおそらく20年近く前のもの。どうなるか心配。 第1日目 ブツが到着。箱、でか^^;。重量約5キロ。 間の悪いことに、妻と娘が帰宅したと同時に宅急便が到着。 妻・娘「なにこれ(・・?(ちなみに見事にハモっていた)」。 私「エッ?あ、いや、なに、ちょっとあずかりもの・・・(・.・ 。」 妻「買ったんじゃないでしょうね(^_-)」 私「ち、違うよ。ほんと、信じて(+_+)」 妻「・・・どうだか(-.-)」 私「あっ、お前なんて失礼なことを!夫を信じられないのか(;_ ?」 妻「ほかはともかく、バンバン関係はね(-_-メ」 娘「・・・ホント・・・(-_-)」 私「・・・(××;当たってる)・・・」 妻と娘の冷ややかな視線を背中に受けながら、そそくさと自分の部屋に逃げ込み、早速中身を確認。 出た!シルバーメッキを身にまとったトンプソン!箱もでかけりゃ中身もでかい!重い!きれい! なお、キャップ火薬も4箱同梱されていた。 う~ん、九州の方は気合入ってるなぁ^^;。 内外観等 表面のメッキには曇りが生じているけれども、コンパウンドで磨けば相当きれいになるだろう。 刻印からすると1980年5月製。今から20年以上も前の製品。 ボルトを引いてみると案外軽い。もちろん金属ボルトであるからそれなりの重さは感じるが、予想したよりは動きが軽い。リコイルSPもさほど強くないようである。 上で述べた過去のジャック天野さんのインプレションによれば、ブローバックさせるにはカート1発当たり紙火薬が10~15粒必要ということであった。それで、どんなに厄介なものなのかちょっとビクビクしていたのだが、少なくとも手動で作動させた感じでは閉鎖系カートを使用すればキャップ1発で十分行けるレベルに思えた。 ただ、びっくりしたのは、ホールドオープン機能がついていたこと。恥ずかしながら、これは知らなかった。マガジンが空の状態でボルトを後退させると、ボルトが後退位置でロックされるのである。オートマチックのスライドストップ機能と同じこと。 恐れ入りましたハドソンさん。 外見を一渡り確認した後、分解。しかし、何度も言うが、重い、でかい。ちょっと動かすにも「ヨイショ」と声が出てしまう。 少し戸惑ったがなんとか上下に分離。ボルトとチャンバーも簡単に取り外すことが出来た。 ちなみに、以前お預かりした「アクセルさん」のMGCトンプと比べるとリアルさは完全にハドソンが上。 内部は大変きれい。もしかすると未発火モデルなのかもしれない。 ここで新たな嬉しい驚き(^^)。長物規制後のモデルだったので、チャンバーに設けられているガスバイパス機能も殺されているだろうなと思い込んでいた。ただ、僅かな期待を込め確認したところ・・・、なんと、生きてる!(^O^)/。これは嬉しい!チャンバー奥に穴が開けられており、そこから発火ガスがガスバイパスを通り、再びバレルへ導かれるようになっている。 規制前の直管バレルモデルや樹脂製モデルのようなストレートなガス抜けは期待できないにしても、それでも多弾数をフル発火すれば、確実にマズルから発火ガスは噴出する。 ことここに至り、CP化に対する意欲が倍増した(笑)。 ただし、現在販売されているモデルはどうなっているかについては不知。 カート チャンバー奥のディトを確認すると、ちょっと太目のコケシ状のものが入っている。ということはこのモデル紙火薬仕様ということになる。 ところが、一緒にお送りいただいたカートはキャップ火薬を使用する旧タイプのピストンファイア式カート。 この組合せではカート先端のホールにディトが入らないから、絶対に発火は無理。 ただし、カートのサイズは45リアルとほぼ同じ。現行のハドソンM1A1CP仕様(今でも売っている!)のカート(M3A1と共通)もほぼ45リアルと同じサイズであるから、おそらく45リアルが入るだろうとは思っていたが、実際に確認できちょっとホッとする。これで使用するカートは45リアルCPにほぼ決定。 ディトネーター そうなると、後はディトである。 オリジナルのディトはチャンバー奥に設けられたねじ穴にねじ込むことにより固定されている。 これはラッキー(^^)v。大概、ねじの太さやピッチは共通のはず。後はサイズが合致するねじを探し、長さを調整すれば事足りるはず。この時点で頭の中で天使がハレルヤを合唱するのが聞こえた^^♪。 ・・・ところが、なんと、合うねじがない(>_<)。太さはちょうどなのだが、ピッチが僅か違う(TT)。オリジナルのディトのピッチは少し粗い。 「ゲッ、ピッチが違う!ピッチでピンチ!(寒~^^ 」。 どうやら、ピッチにもいろいろ種類があるらしい。それとも粗いピッチは古いタイプのねじなのかな・・・。 「今日はこれまでかな」と少し落胆したが、それでもいろいろ探し回ったところ、ジャンクボックスの隅にあった、赤く錆びたねじのピッチが同じことに気が付いた。 「これで駄目なら今日はお休み」と思い、合わせたところこれがぴったり(^^)!。しかも、うまいことにマイナスドライバー用であり、この点も、取り外しする際のことを考えると好都合。ねじの頭は細く削らなければならないが、プラスだと細くした場合、ドライバーが入る切れ込みがなくなってしまうことがある。その点マイナスは何とか切れ込みを生かせることから、取り付け取り外し作業をしやすい。 そこで、まずねじの頭を細くするため、やすりで頭を削りこむ。相手が鉄だからかなり面倒。ついで、カートの発火ポイントを念頭に長さ調整のため金のこで切断。これも苦労した**;。長さは現物合わせで判断。 ただ、そのままねじ込んだだけでは少しぐらつき、不安定。センターにうまく位置していないとトラブルの原因になる。以前のMGCトンプでも苦労したところ。 今回は、あらかじめディトとなるねじにナットとワッシャーを入れておき、それらを頃合の位置に止めたままねじ込んだところ、そのままうまくセンターできっちり固定された。 念のためナットとディト(ねじ)は金属接着剤で固定した方がいいかもしれない。(ただし、結局ディトは交換することとなった・・・。) フィーディング確認 ここで一旦、モデルを組み立ててフィーディングを確認する。 45リアルカートに空キャップを詰めた上でマガジンに1発装填、空撃ち。トリガーを引くとボルトは勢いよく前進、問題なくカートをチャンバーに送り込んだようで一安心。 ちょっとディトが長すぎるような感じであるが、しばらくはそのままにしておく。ボルトを後退させるとこれも問題なくカートはエジェクトされた。 そこで、一度このままで発火させてみることとした。 金キャップをセットし、発火したところボルトはきれいにフルリコイル(ホールドオープン成功!)したが、エジェクトは失敗。ちょっと甘かったかな。ただ、CPパワーで十分作動することが確認できた。 あいさつも含め、初日の状況を「九州男児さん」にメールでお知らせし、就寝。 _________________ Cerwyn
Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria. also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.
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| HUDSON THOMPSON M1A1 PART #2 第2日目早朝 たまたま、娘の修学旅行出発日ということで家族全員が早起き。小1時間ほど時間が出来たことから、あきれる妻の視線を尻目に、そそくさと部屋に閉じこもり検討。 あと作業しなければならないと考えられる箇所は、ボルトフェイス、エキストラクター、チャンバー。もちろん内外の磨きこみも含まれる。 前夜のエジェクト不良の原因として考えられるのは、ボルトフェイスにカートがしっかり固定されていないということと、エジェクトされた際、フレームのどこかにカートが当たり、跳ね返されるということ。 ボルトフェイス ボルトフェイスにカートを合わせてみると、これがぎりぎり。また、チャンバー内径のサイズとカートのサイズに少し差があり(カートがぐらつく)、リムがボルトフェイスの中心よりずれたまま挿入される場合があるような感じ。若干ディトが長いことも影響しているかもしれない。 カートをチャンバーに押し込む際には問題はないが、エジェクトの際にはカートのリムがしっかりボルトフィエスにはまっていないと、ボルト後退の途中でカートがこぼれエジェクト不良を起こしてしまう。そこで、ボルトフェイス先端部を少し面取り。そうすれば、リムが納まりやすくなるだろう。その上で、ディトの長さを微調整していく。 エキストラクター これもボルトフェイスのカート保持力に影響すること。 まずは、エキストSPを少し強め、確実にカートを保持できるようにしてみる。あまり強くすると、上記で述べたようにボルトフェイスにリムが納まりにくくなる。 ボルトフェイスへの納まり具合次第では、反対に弱める必要があるかもしれない。 チャンバー 実は最初に少し触れた、過去の「GUN誌」に掲載された六人部さんの調整方法がこれ。 チャンバーをカート挿入口から見ると、「U」のような格好をしている。この右側側面上部がちょうどエジェクトされたカートの通り道に突き出すようになっているのである。 六人部さんによれば、ここにエジェクトされたカートが当たり、それが原因でジャムが発生するという。解消するには、その箇所の内側を適当に削り取ればよいとのこと。 これには素直に従う。なんせ相手は伝説的名人。それも今から20年前のモデルガン全盛期、ご本人も一線で活躍されていた時代のご意見。疑いを挟むことなく、おっしゃるとおりに加工する(笑)。(この点に関し補足、現行のモデルではエキストラクターの固定方法と作動方向が改良されており、カートエジェクト方向が改善され、この問題は解消されている様子である)。 もちろん実際の作業は帰宅後にする。こんなもん今からやり始めたら、欠勤になるのは明白。 第2日目夜 とっとと帰宅し、作業開始。 ボルトフェイスとチャンバーを加工し、エキストSPをダブルにして強化。この状態で、45CPカートを5発準備し、早速発火。これは2発目がエジェクト不良を起こした。残り3発はきれいに連射成功。 その後、微調整を繰り返しながら何度か発火を繰り返したが、5連射には失敗。1発は必ずエジェクト不良が発生する。 一瞬の出来事なので確認できないが、ボルトフェイスに完全にカートのリムがはまっていないのが原因ではなかろうかと思う。チャンバー側面にも当たっているようではあるが、結構削り込んだので勢いがあれば乗り越えられる程度になっているはず。さてどうしようか・・・。現行モデルのボルト一式とチャンバーに交換するのが一番手っ取り早く、確実なんだろうけど、お金と時間がかかるしなぁ。 なお、3、4発の連射であれこれいうことは出来ないが、発火音は以外に大きく、また、サイクルはスローなものに感じた。 第3日目 酔っ払い状態で帰宅につき、作業不可(^^; 第4日目 ボルトフェイスにカートがはまり込みやすくなるように、ボルトフェイスを再度面取り。 チャンバー内径を少しでも狭め、カートがセンターからずれないように、チャンバー内に0・1ミリ厚のステンレスの薄板を丸めて挿入してみる。何も固定していないので外れてきそうで不安だが、ものは試し。それと、エキストSPを今度は弱くする。 なお、使用する45CPカートのリム部の切れ込みの深さと角度がエキストと合っていないのもエジェクト不良の一因かもしれない。 余談だが、旧45CPカートやP220カートはリムが深く切れ込んでいるので、エキストのかかりがしっかりとしているが、リアルサイズカートになってからは45も9ミリもリムの切れ込みが浅く、エキストとのかかりが最小限となっている。この点もリアル化の弊害と考える。 この状態で改めて5発で発火。 結果は4連射成功後ボルトがホールドオープンし、最終弾の発火には失敗。もう一度挑戦したが、状況はまったく同じ。マガジンに1発残した状態でボルトがホールドオープンするようになってしまった。 しかし、それまでの4連射の感触は最高。はっきり確認したわけではないが、カートのエジェクト方向もほぼ同じようであったし、サイクルも安定したものに感じた。後はもっとカートを準備し、実際に発火するだけ。 ちょっと心配なのは、マガジンSPのテンション。結構強い。多弾数装填するとマガジンSPテンションにボルトの前進力が負けてしまいそうな気がする。 第5日目 調整はさておき、少々曇り気味の表面のメッキをきれいにする。コンパウンドでシコシコ磨くとかなりきれいになっていく。 樹脂製モデルのメッキは、素材の樹脂が弱くなるので発火には不向きだが、金属製モデルの場合はメッキが表面を保護しているので発火には適している。多少メッキの厚みで、作動が渋くなる可能性はあるが、少なくともこのモデルの場合はそのようなことは感じられない。 なお、古いハドソンのカタログや過去の「GUN誌」の記事などを読むと、どうもこのモデルは長物規制後に初めて販売されたもののような気がする。 1980年5月のジャック天野氏の「モデルガン・ダイジェスト」によれば、その年に新発売されたような紹介内容であったし、たまたま、同号に掲載されていた広告では新発売製品としてこのモデルが紹介されていたことからも間違いないと思う。 長物を含む第二次法規制は昭和52年(1977年)だからその2年余り後の製品ということとなる。それだからこそ、マズルからガスが抜けるように、はじめからチャンバー一体式のガスバイパスがセットされていたに違いない。 これに対し、MGCのモデルは規制前に開発されたものであったことから貫通バレル。それが、規制により許されなくなったため、ガスを抜くには新たにガスバイパスを設けなければならなかったが、そのためには大改修しなければならず、結局それは諦め銃口を閉鎖したモデルとして販売せざるを得なかったのだろう。 ハドソンのトンプの場合、紙火薬モデル(今回紹介モデル)→旧型ピストンファイアカートモデル→新型CPタイプカートモデル→ボルト及びエキスト改修モデル(現行モデル)という変遷をたどったものと思う(ただしあくまで推測)。 手持ちの古いカタログでは、その表面処理の違いで3種類あり、それはブラックのスタンダート、ブラックのデラックス、そしてこのメッキモデル。ちなみにメッキモデルは当時の価格で41000円とされている。 とそうこうしているうちに、2時間ほど時間が出来てしまった。これはラッキー。基本的な調整は前日までの段階で終了しているので思い切って発火してみることとした。 用意したのは45リアルCPを16発。火薬は金。成功の確信があったわけではないが一応ビデオを用意する。 ドキムネしながらボルトをコッキング。 いざ発火! トリガーを絞る、ボルトが前進する、さあ発火!・・・「ごり」。 フニャ? ありゃりゃ、やはりマガジンテンションに負け、初弾はうまく発火するまでの勢いが得られなかったよう。 そこで、1発抜き15発で再度挑戦。再びドキムネしながらトリガーを絞る。「タンタンタンタンタンタッ!」とスローなペースながらきれいにブローバックが続き、14連射に成功!やはり最終弾前でホールドオープンしてしまったが、それを割り引いても大満足。 金属ボルトの重みを十分感じる素晴らしい感触!感動した!エジェクトされたカートの方向もほぼ同じ。発火音も大きく迫力がある。 残念なのは、マズルからのガスがほとんど確認できなかったこと。これはカート内にオイルかプロップパウダーを仕込めば、もう少し改善するだろうがちょっと期待を裏切られた。しかしこのモデルはいい。 第6日目 朝から発火。 ただこの日は調子が今ひとつ。 原因の一つは火薬。前夜部屋の窓を閉めるのを忘れ、夜半に降った雨が吹き込んだせいか、しまい忘れた火薬がしっかりしけっていた。15発中、3、4発が不発。 しかたなく、銀キャップを使用したが、これがまた、火薬量の少ないのに当たってしまったようでパワー不足。また、Oリングもかなり痩せていたため、不調に拍車をかけたようである。7、8連射くらいならうまくいったが、15連射は成功しなかった。 もう一点はちょっと深刻かも。 ディトの固定が完璧でないため、発火の衝撃でチャンバーのネジ穴が弱ってきてしまった。そのため、一層ディトがぐらつき、それがまた、ネジ穴を弱めるという悪循環。あげくに、ディトがわずかでも傾くと、カートにうまく入らずそこでストップ。そうするとまたディトに偏った衝撃が加わり、なおのこと事態を悪化させる。 やはり、ナットの固定を何か考えるべきであったが今となってはどうしようもない。 そこで、メンテナンスには多少目をつぶり、マルシンCZ75のディトを前後反対にして、チャンバーに叩き込んだ。これであればかなりしっかり固定される。 あと、もう一点修正すべき点が見つかったが、ちょっと厄介なので手を出さずにいる。それは、エジェクションポート後端裏側のエキストの通り道の加工。 エキストがカートをくわえると、若干エキストが浮き上がる。そうするとフレーム内部に接触しそうになるため、実銃の場合、フレーム内部にその逃げ加工がされている。溝が掘ってあるということ。 モデルガンではCMC(タナカもかな)がそうなっていたのだったかな、それとも六研のものだけだったかな・・・。 正常に作動する分には問題はないのだろうが、ジャムしたりすると詰まったカートの位置によってはエキストが予想外に外に押し出され、無理な力が加わり変形してしまう。このモデルも少々エキストが弓なりに反ったようになってしまっている。これが極端になると作動不良を起こしかねない。しかし、加工が難しく、今はただひたすらジャムしないよう祈るだけの状態。 ムービー 上記までの段階で一旦ムービーを編集。 結局一番長い連射は初日に撮影した14連射。後は短いものばかりなのでいつもどおりつないである。それでも結構楽しめる。スローなサイクルに、大き目の発火音とリコイルショック。 MGCトンプのムービーと比べていただければ、リコイルショックの違いが分かるはず。ハドソンの迫力の一端をうかがい知ることが出来ることと思う。 まとめなどなど 現在、新品で購入できるトンプソンはハドソンのモデルだけ。探せば流通在庫でタナカのM1が見つかるかもしれないが、期待薄だし、MGCやCMCのモデルはほぼ絶望。 巷の評判では、作動ならMGC、リアルさではCMC(タナカ)とのことで、ハドソンは一段格下とみられていたように思う。私も単純にそう思っていた。 しかし今回初めてハドソンのモデルに接し、少し考えを改めさせられた。 たまたま紙火薬モデルであったが、それを簡単な方法でCP化した結果、ご覧のとおりそこそこに発火できるモデルに変身。もともとの設計が良かったのだろう。それが証拠に、欠点であったボルトフェイス(エキストラクター)が改修された現行モデルは、CPカートにより、箱出しで素晴らしく好調なモデルになっていると聞く。 私はほかにMGCのモデルしか知らないが、比べればリアルさでは完全にハドソンが上。作動もCP化が成った今では、それほど見劣りはしない。個人的感触ながら、発火時の迫力はボルトの重量を感じるハドソンが上。どちらかを選ぶとしたら、僅差でハドソンを選ぶ。まっ、その分苦労するだろうけどそれも楽しみの一つ(笑)。 最近ハドソンから、このモデルをベースに表面処理をカスタムしたスペシャルモデルが登場した(なんと150000円!)。それに限らず、どうもこのモデル、手を変え、品を変え、まだまだ長くつくり続けていきそうな気がする。 いずれにしても少量生産のため、高額(スタンダートモデルでも55000円)になりがちで、そうおいそれと手に入れることは出来ないが、何とかして自分のものにしたいモデルである。 今回は、「九州男児さん」と本来の持ち主でいらっしゃるお父上のご厚意で、この貴重なモデルを存分に触らせていただいた。 「好きにしてよか!」とのお言葉には、ホッとするとともに、若干のプレシャーを感じたのが、それ以上に楽しませていただいた。 結局ジャンクにしてしまったようで、大変申し訳ないがどうかご容赦願いたい。一応発火は出来ますので(いつまで持つかわかんないけど(^^ 。 ・・・えっ?また、なんか送るって?今度は何(?_?)。・・・・・・ゲッ!(ーー;。あれは・・・。 _________________ Cerwyn
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| Hudson made Thompson M1A1 Wait is. Big game after a long time, manufactured by Hudson Thompson M1A1 Full metal appearance. Even though in my possession is not. Like-minded person "boy's" Kyushu is a gem of ownership. Some time ago, "I have an old Hudson Thompson, do you want to play with it? I want to do it,"'s had a talk was, "I do not guarantee anything, you still do," So, which was borrowed. The goal is naturally fire blowback CP. Now we・・・How about I wonder相成Rimasu. Prologue "Hey, hey. Hadosontonpu I have an old hand, send it to survive there?" It is the beginning of you and your help. I heard Silver! Hudson M1A1 and that Thompson is at home sleeping. Previously, what was transferred from an acquaintance thank your father (Naka Naka is interesting in this history) was a story. Raretarashii have tried firing end to explode immediately available, is likely to accept what I was thinking I should do something. This is it, old man funny (I ← ^ ^ discovered the site, "Oh, Odaterya if the old man, the dust It may be that somehow" we, silky voice (laughs) as soon as it was this have been asked by. The referral is "Furuotoburobakku!." In the process of adjustment, this will burn the cook (←・・・even impossible), "Do you want to!" Quip and reliable. As far as heard, the cart is included (for details just that type of explosives used cap is unknown) have only one shot. That no manual. Model for the first time since my own touch, the old "GUN magazine's" Looking from the article, an overview in advance. May issue, 1980 Kano "Amano Jack (T. NEMO)'s" Impressions detailed model (gunpaper) and had been published, the June issue of the 1984 Masters legendary, "says Tobe lock ( That's six parts!) "published an article has been adjusted and she very much. As for current models are referred to an article published in April 2000 issue. But the king with the name Hudson opponent, something that 20 years ago, probably. Worried what will happen. Day 1 Stuff arrives. Boxes, huge ^ ^. Weight Approximately 5 kg. To make matters worse between the courier arrived at the same time his wife and daughter came home. ・Wife daughter, "What is this (・・? (I had a wonderful way conger)." "My edge? Oh, no, what's a little too・・・Azukari (・.・ ." My wife, "You're not my pc (^_-)" "My words, You're wrong. Really, believe ( _ )" "Wife (-.-)"・・・Who knows I "Oh, you never to be rude! Do not believe her husband (;_ ?" My wife, "nothing else, the relationship is like Bambang (-_-media" Daughter "really・・・・・・(-_-)" "I・・・(× ×; I hit)・・・" While receiving a cool look on the back of his wife and daughter, and my room hastily逃Ge込Mi, check the contents immediately. Here it comes! Thompson, wearing a silver-plated! The contents are too big Dekakerya box! Heavy! Beautiful! The four boxes were also included gunpowder caps. Hmmm, I wonder how I'm in Kyushu yell ^ ^. And appearance both inside and outside Plating on the surface but there have been cloudy, it will be pretty substantial compound and polished. Made in May 1980 when the stamp. Products for more than 20 years from now. Surprisingly light and try to pull the bolt. Metal bolt from a moderate weight, but of course feel, lighter move than we had expected. Spring is not as strong as deaf as recoil. According to Jack Amano's past Impression mentioned above, in order to blow back from a 10 per gunpaper 1 15 grain cart - was that necessary. So, a little scared but I was a nuisance however, was operated by hand at least feeling seemed to be enough to go from level one cart can be used to cap a closed system. But I was surprised, the hold-open function that was about. Embarrassed to say, it did not know. To retract a bolt and an empty magazine, which is locked in the retracted position of the bolt. The same feature of the automatic slide stop. Hudson's恐Re入Rimashita. After checking one's appearance over the decomposition. However, many times I say heavy, big. Even budge, "Yoisho" get out and voice. Unmixed managed to slightly puzzled. I could easily remove the bolt and chamber. By the way, previously entrusted to "Axel's" realism compared to the MGC on the Hudson is completely Tonpu. Internally very good. Maybe it's not then maybe fire models. This new pleasant surprise ^ ^ Model because it was folding after regulation, and was convinced that would have killed the ability to bypass the gas chamber is provided. However, the expectation was confirmed・・・small, surprisingly, I'm alive! (^O^)/。 (^ O ^) /. This is great! Hole has been opened in the back chamber, through which pass the gas from the gas fire has come to be re-directed to the barrel. Straight-through gas like models or plastic model of the straight barrel before the regulations can not be expected to, if the number of bullets fired many still full, gas fire erupted from the muzzle with certainty. Reached here that, CP doubled willingness of (laughs). The model being sold today is ignorance about what has happened. Cart Detonator Pin to the back of the chamber to confirm that the system contains the form of a chubby little moss. That means that a model specification gunpaper. But together, you send Cart cart fire formula powder using older piston cap. This combination Dito from entering the hole from the tip of the cart is impossible never fired. However, similar to the real size of the cart 45. Hudson M1A1CP current specifications (which still sells!) Kurt (M3A1 and common) to almost the same size as the real 45 and 45 will enter the real thought that maybe, you can actually see a little relief be. This cart used by real decision almost 45 CP. Detonator If so, then is Dito. Dito is the original fixed by screwing a screw hole formed in the back chamber. This is Lucky (^ ^) Most part, the thickness and the pitch is supposed to be a common thread. After looking for a thread that matches the size, you can adjust the length should suffice. I heard the hallelujah chorus of angels in my head at this point ^ ^ ♪. ・・・However, surprisingly, there is no screw fit (>_<). But a thickness just slightly different pitch Original Detonator pin's thread pitch slightly coarser. "Blech, the pitch is different! Pinch on the pitch! (Cold ^^ ". Apparently, there seems to be also different types of pitches. Or is coarse-pitch screw Or・・・older. "What is it today so far," but a little disappointed, I still探Shi回Tta many were in the corner of the junk box, I noticed that the same thread pitch of rusty red. "Today if you go down in this holiday," I thought, this is exactly where the combined (^^)!. And that is good for flathead screwdriver, this point also, when convenient to think that removal. Shave the head of the screw should be thin and narrow when it is positive, may lose their driver into notch. The negative point is that somehow they can use cut and easy to work mounting and removal. In order to narrow the first head of the screw, cut the head Komu rasp. Because iron is quite troublesome opponent. Next, cut for length adjustment Kon Kono mind firing point of the cart. ** This is also very hard;. The length is determined by the actual match. However, just as it is screwed in a little wobble, unstable. Cause trouble and not well located in the center. I also struggled before with MGC's Thompson. This time, keep putting the screws and washers and nuts already Dito, I screwed in just right position while they stopped, as it is locked tightly in the center well. Dito nuts and just in case (screw) may be better fixed by a metal adhesive. (However, it was eventually replaced Dito.) Check Feeding Once here, make sure to assemble the model feeding. Loaded from a magazine on the cart filled with empty real cap 45, shoot the sky. Pull the trigger and bolt forward with great force, the chamber sent a relief in the cart so no problem. Looks like this is a little too long Dito, let it ride for a while. This is also a problem with the cart to retract a bolt was eject. We decided to try to get it anyway once ignited. Insert the metal caps, firing bolts were cleaned Fururikoiru (successful holding open!) But, eject failure. What a sweet moment. However, CP was confirmed that sufficient power to operate. Including greetings, the status of the first "boy's" Kyushu notify you by email, bedtime. Day 2 morning Happened to get up early for the whole family excursion that her departure date. 1 hour from the time made small eyes of his wife stuck with outrageous, considering the room hurriedly shut. Work place shall be considered after the bolt face, extractor, chamber. Kino Migaku crowded inside and outside are also included, of course. A possible cause of the eject failure of Eve, and that cart is not fully seated on bolt face when the ejection per cart somewhere in the frame that will bounce. Bolt Face Looking to meet face to cart bolt which barely. Moreover, there is little difference in the size of the chamber bore size and cart (cart is wobbly), feels like there still may be inserted into the bolt face shifted from the center of the rim. It may have also affected some long Dito. Push the cart when the chamber is not a problem, when the ejection is not firmly stuck in the rim of the cart Borutofiesu would cause a bad spill cart in the middle of a recession eject volts. So a little tip chamfered bolt face. That way, the rim will make Mari Osamu. On top of that, we fine-tune the length of Dito. Extractor The cart can affect the retention bolt face as well. First, a little stronger Ekisuto SP, you can try to hold the cart securely. Much stronger and less likely to face Mari Osamu bolt rim, as described above. Depending on the degree of face Mari Osamu bolt might have weakened the opposition. Chamber First a little touched in fact, in the past "GUN magazine" It's a way of adjusting published in six parts. From the cart slot chamber, "U" is dressed up like that. A stick that looks like the path of the cart just eject right side at the top of this. According to the Department's six people per eject the cart here, a jam occurs in the cause. To solve the suitably削Ri取Re do it with the inside of that point. It is amenable. Prepared to deal against the legendary master. Heyday 20 years ago, now also a model, it was time feedback is also active in your identity clear distinction. Sandwich without doubt, be processed as you said (laughs). (Supplement this regard, the current model are improved methods and fixed extractor operating direction, the direction is better Katoejekuto, how this problem is being solved.) Of course, the real work after returning home. Mon now begun to do this, the apparent absence of a will. _________________ Cerwyn
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| HUDSON THOMPSON M1A1 PART #2Day 2 evening Hurry up and come home and start working. Processing chamber and bolt face, then double-reinforced Ekisuto SP. In this state, 45CP from 5 to prepare the cart and immediately fired. This has caused the failure is the second ejection. From blazing to clean the remaining three have succeeded. After firing was repeated several times repeated fine-tuning, and five blazing failure. Ejection from a failure will occur without fail. Happened just because it is not sure, because I think I fear the rim of the cart is not fully hooked bolt face. Also seems to hit the side of the chamber, but should have been enough to overcome any power cut, so I pretty crowded. ・・・What to do now. Most quickly to the chamber with a set of bolts to replace the current model, but I sure would, I take the time and money. The barrage of from 3-4, but rather if it can, the sound is great except fire, and felt things slow cycle. Day 3 Came home drunk every state, no work (^ ^; Day 4 To make it easier to interface including cart stuck bolt, bolt beveled face again. Inner chamber a little narrow, slipping from the center to the cart, the chamber 0・try to roll up into a thin sheet of 1 mm thick stainless steel. But out of anxiety because I seem to do anything not fixed, and try stuff. Also, now the SP is weakly Ekisuto. The cause of the failure to use 45CP may also eject Ekisuto not match the depth of cut and angle of the rim of the cart. As an aside, the former 45CP carts and P220 cart so that切Re込N deep rim, but to firmly take the Ekisuto from becoming cart size real shallow notches in the rim is also 9mm even 45 takes in and Ekisuto has become minimal. Think of the real evils of this well. The firing from 5 anew in this state. The results hold the bolt open after a successful four blazing, firing bullets into the final failure. But try again, the situation is exactly the same. Became open to hold the bolt in one shot left in the magazine. However, four blazing feel is the best so far. You did not see clearly, but seemed much the same way to eject the cart, I felt stable cycles. After preparing for more cart, only the actual firing. A little nervous, the tension of the Magazine spring is quite strong. Magazine loaded with ammo I knew I would feel much the SP lost power forward tension bolt. Day 5 Apart from coordination, to clean the surface of the touch plate a little cloudy. Become much cleaner and polish compound and Shikoshiko. Plated plastic model, the firing of the material because the resin is weakened but not suitable for firing metal model is because it protects the surface is suitable for plating. Plating thickness of some, the potential渋Ku work, but at least this model will not feel like that. The old Hudson and past catalogs "GUN magazine," and reading articles, I feel that this model is very much like it was sold only after folding regulation. Jack Amano's May 1980 "a model・Digest", according to what was introduced as a new release that year, by chance, had been advertising the same issue of a new release products Arguably, I think that this model has been introduced. Secondary legislation, including the folding in 1977 (1977) and that the product so that after two years. That's why, as the muzzle comes off the gas, must have been an integral gas bypass is set in the first chamber. In contrast, MGC's model and it was through the barrel before the regulations were developed. It will not be allowed because the regulations, to remove gas, but gas had fitted a new bypass, it must be because of renovation, will eventually sell it as a model gave up and closed muzzle it's got a sieve. For Hudson Thompson model gunpaper (model introduced here) the new model → CP → Piston Fire Cartridge model old bolts and repair Ekisuto Taipukatomoderu → (current model) and I traced the history of (strictly speculation, however). Your old catalog is available in three different surface treatment, it is the black standard definitions, black deluxe model and plating. Plated model is the way 41 000 yen price at the time. And in the meantime, I have made about 2 hours. This is lucky. The basic adjustment and dare to try to fire it at the end to the previous day. Was prepared from 45 CP 16 is real. Gold powder. So successful was sure that once the video is not available. Cocking the bolt while Dokimune. Fire emergency! Squeeze the trigger, the bolt forward, fire Come on! ・・・ "GORI". Funya? Dad-gummed, magazines also lost the tension, so did not get the first shot fired from the force of good. So try again in 15 rounds without one shot. Dokimune while squeezing the trigger again. "Tantantantantantatsu!" Blowback continued to clean but slow pace, 14 blazing success! I hold open the last bullet in front again, satisfied that even a grain of salt. Great feel good I feel the weight of the metal bolt! I was impressed! Much the same way that eject the cart. Work out the sound bigger fire. Unfortunately, the few that could not be confirmed from the muzzle gas. This is to be trained in oil or Prop Powder cart was a little disappointed but would improve a little. But this model is good. Day 6 Fire in the morning. This day is just the blink much interest. One reason is gunpowder. Forgot to shut the windows of the room the night before, perhaps because the rain blew in the middle of the night was kicked away a solid powder forgotten. 15 under development, will explode from 3-4. Reluctantly, but using a silver cap, and this is the power shortage that has hit the small amount of gunpowder. In addition, O-ring because it was quite thin, the slump appears to be spurred. If it worked the blaze about 7,8, 15 rapid-fire did not succeed. Another point might be a bit serious. Dito fixed because it is not perfect, but has been weakened by the impact of the firing chamber of the screw holes. Therefore, the wobble is more Dito, and it weakens the vicious circle of holes. After all, Dito is tilted even slightly, then stop successfully entering the cart. Dito biased mechanical force and then, Naonokoto exacerbate the situation. Again, it was becoming something to consider fixing the nuts I can not help it. Therefore, some maintenance Tsuburi eyes, Marushin CZ75 Dito back and forth to the contrary, the叩Ki込Nda chamber. If this is fixed very firmly. Also, the point is found to be fixed Another thing I have to go through the hands a little messy. It is the path of processing on the back end Ejekushonpoto Ekisuto. Ekisuto Kuwaeru a cart and, slightly lifted the Ekisuto. Since then almost in contact with the inner frame, if a real gun, which has been working away inside the frame. That there is digging trenches. A model in the CMC (or even a Tanaka) was it had to do, but I guess it was only six or lab. Minutes to work correctly, but they're not the problem, the position of the cart is filled with jam or pushed out Ekisuto unexpected, they joined forces with excessive deformation. They've become a little too warped Ekisuto arched model. Malfunction could cause it to become extreme. However, the process is difficult, but now the only state not to pray just plain jams. Movies Once you edit your movie to the stage. 14 blaze of fire ended the longest shot on the first day. As usual after a tied just so short. Enjoy fine. Slow cycle, heavy duty fire Recoil shock sound. MGC movies than you'll Thompson, Recoil should know the difference. I think you can learn about a part of the force of the Hudson. Summary etc. Currently, only Thompson can buy a brand new model of the Hudson. Tanaka, M1 is in the distributor's inventory may be found if you look, but then to expect, MGC and the CMC model is almost hopeless. The Thumbs up, you work MGC, in the real CMC (Tanaka) and that, I think that Hudson was expected to further downgrade. I just thought, too. For the first time in contact with the model of the Hudson, but some made me think again. Gunpaper model was by chance that CP results in a simple way化Shita transformed into a model as you can see that fire in a hurry. The original design would be better off. Evidence that it was a bolt face disadvantages (extractor) is the current model was renovated, CP by the cart, hear is a great model in the strong box out. Besides I only know the MGC model, is compared with the real full on the Hudson. The work also consisted of CP is now, not so pale. While the personal touch, the force of the fire at the Hudson feel the weight of the bolt. If you choose one, choose Hudson narrowly. Wait, that one can enjoy the minutes I would have trouble From Hudson recently appeared in a special custom models based on this model, surface treatment (150 000 yen how!). Not only that, this model a lot, changing hands, changing the product, I feel that I still carry on making long. For low-volume production in either case, high (55 000 yen in Sutandatomoderu) tend to be, but you can not get Oisoreto so, what model you want to do something yourself. This "boy's Kyushu" in the kindness of your father come in with the original owner, you will not touch this valuable model fully. "Do you want to!" With your words, as well as relieved, but felt some Puresha, to amuse you further. I like junk to the end, sorry about whether very sorry. Because fire can once (I do not know whether that has ever (^^ . Also, send me something? Now what (?_?). ・・・・・・Getsu! (ーー;.・・・That. [/center] _________________ Cerwyn
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| Hudson Sten MkⅡ The emergence of a metal folding a long time. CP type current specifications. Purchased from the shop is brand new. The shop has always taken care of, I think the stock had been in quite a while. Before the showcase, it was quietly placed on the far left in a box, but it also knew that at first I thought surely airguns. After a while it is realized that a model has been interested in. However, the MGC to have on hand is an extrusion system application, nothing expensive (price 46,000 yen). In addition, Hudson has also made a rude but, how the fire because it was convinced that I fear with much interest, not so much greed Wakanakatta purchase.
However, since some people, "Hadosonsuten, thank you note" to you about. I heard movement in reasonably good condition before the age old Pisutonfaiakato Hudson, the current specification to CP from the cart, nearly絶好調Rashiku, and the middle, increasing real-time mold has been changed, especially slot magazine also serve as a dust cover of the cover is rotated in a model that only the Hudson product. And this becomes, suddenly, and began to worry. Cash is a (^.^). Since then, every stop shop, "Do you still have" had become a habit to check this. One day, to ensure that the kind aunt's shop to ask, what did I have to look miserly abuses, and thrust me laughing aunty calculator. Was surprised to see the amount listed there! Downright special price! However, the amount still fine. We put a deposit, be obtained upon payment of the balance. The balance paid one month and then finally passed after much depend upon what became his last. Back at home, check cash immediately. Most of the material is a zinc alloy, iron stock. I also like the aluminum barrel. Kg in weight is more than 3, MGC system application heavier. Bolt to break (zinc alloy), a little surprised to see. The meat is quite without (Note: It is an old type and has not been very heavy and without meat). However, stainless steel bolts and still weigh the MGC much different. MGC MGC is also better from the outside would not know because in the hollow equivalent. But this is not very interesting. I was expecting this model is an exciting Rikoirushokku by heavy bolts. However, at this application as much as the MGC system. We decided to put the lead where the bolt without meat. Ki込Mi in place without meat hammer that was on hand to lead plate just superglue fixed end. This becomes stiff and fairly. The concern in the face of the bolt wear. The MGC is a problem arising in the system, as well as extracts from the magazine cart, part abrasion jaw deformity worried that significantly affect the retention of the cart. In this model, particularly because the groove is provided through the center portion of the jaw is ejector, has become a very delicate shape. When it comes to, MGC are thought Could you repair just face as we have done in stainless steel, there is no freedom of work, so being without meat until just after the face, repair in the same way is probably more difficult. Once repairs are absolutely necessary, "Custom Shop Degozai" What shall I consult with friends. In that case, "Degozai custom shop," says, Thank you. Unfortunately, the barrel is completely closed. There is also a gas chamber does not pass. Model before the mold is fixed, but have heard that the bypass had been established for sure. Burrell, check around the various chambers, but I think something can not be processed gas bypass, in the presence of inserts, so it is likely that gave freedom a little too much work. Now, please. If the people who have worked goodwill gas bypass current model, how come you'd teach.
Magazine cover slot brilliant move. Safety has also been reproduced by a simple Kokkingunobu pushed. Simple methods of deduction, not even semi-automatic operate reliably trigger bar was also used as a nectar Disukoneto disco. The perfection of the movement of the selector push-button system. This area is really beautiful. However, very little because they lack the amount of shear in the case of a full fall was broken so bad. For semi-incident. This paper responds by shaving the head of Russia a little bit.
When I check the maximum amount of the bolt back, so that recoil SP Rikoirupuragu hit the rear end of the bolt is not fully compressed, the two bonded layers shock-absorbing sponge inside the plug. By the way, if the MGC Sten, so that the spring is fully compressed before the bolt hit the rear end, you can not hit the bolt itself Rikoirupuragu. The tension of the recoil SP MGC is weak compared to the Hudson. The trouble is the magazine. SP is weak in tension, frequently raised problems that will not come packed in the middle of the cart. Maybe the shape of the floor too bad. Reluctantly, SP diverted Marushin MP40 magazines. However, MP40 magazine also diverted as possible I think. The somewhat shaky, enough to bite if you ask for something a spacer. Hudson is also slightly shorter than the length of the lip around the magazine, use the cart as long as 9 mm felt okay in the real system. However, the end "feel" of the talks.In fact I have not tried it inadvertently try that ^ ^.
The cart came with the cart from 6 real size 9mm. MGC, almost the same size as that of the Marushin. Basically, the CP is, inner, MGC CP system around a bit shorter than the length, and the heart of our own Hudson venting holes are provided. Therefore, the tip of the Ditoneta are sharp so as to cover thin gas venting holes. In addition, MGC using the cart system will be completely closed before the fire because the bolt is relatively long Dito. So check before firing adjustment work so far. We have not made any such Suri合Wase. Ni当Tatte firing, but 9 CP Metric series was going to use the cart in front of the cart and try to P38 for the PF, to check feeding and eject the empty set of plugs and caps for Fire Center. Then it had so much (laughs). Clearly marked with the scars to determine the cap hit in the cart. We prepared 20 from cart, check the manual eject and re-feeding. Any problems. This P38 was first to try to ignite the cart. Once Wow, open bolt SMG model commonly encountered problems, poor ejection. Sandwiched between the cart frame and bolts, a cart that countless incapacitated. Even if a real gun, when it is not ejecting the tip of the warhead, so that shorter, and thought it would eject as soon as the cart is more advantageous short. However, because the normal state of complete lack of power, plug and Inner Fire Center, inside the rim of the necessity for the O-ring gas seal. Caps money. Firing 10 rounds in which to prepare. First Semi. "Bang!" Will ignite a clean and quite loud. Cart is kicked well, that is also next bullet fired Cocking bolt position. Work even in the semi-automatic fire as it is authentic. Rikoirushokku is huge. Was then prepared from 10 again, this time from the first full fire. "Back up! Battery? Backup!" Successful firing bullets and all clean. MGC slow firing cycle application system more clearly. Hadosontonpu similar feeling. Will lead into effect, the Rikoirushokku intense. Come on, interesting! The introduction to a movie the next day was recorded. Since then the two have a little longer. Those of the first movement and a distinctive magazine cover slot, put a selector operating conditions. Ignition is cut off because I tied the way once. The other is the only fire scene. Rikoirushokku I think you'll know the greatness of the blaze last seen. In fact, during the firing to "fear" felt. Put a little too much might lead . Now it was a metal folding fewer. Tend to be quite more expensive, but it can buy Oisoreto, the metal folding Handoganmoderu the resin is not attractive. In the limited selection of stainless steel model is recommended. It works smoothly and well, this is important is that the easy maintenance. If you are interested, is considering buying doing? ○ 2007.5 Marushin MP40 · UZI cart and the S & WM39 (439) is used to cart the movie. Curt is good condition P38, feeding upon the strengths of the shortness of the cart when it was found that would eject from the neck, slightly longer using this cart. The plug is a center for the fire, do not use Intensushito. The power is somewhat lacking, do not care because we'll all bullets fired continuously full. The first scene of fire 28. Failure occurs at the ejection of the blaze was expected a little more 30. The second scene of the blaze 20. What has become firmly feel the weight of any bolt. Comfortable swinging around my belly fat days (^ ^ Isuzu. Look closer and began to fire, but some good energy in the early cycles, we see that the cycle becomes unstable and slower as if the latter half of shortness of breath. Remarkable, especially the first scene. 50 meter dash in middle-aged man like ・・・Like a creature. Do not ..., Hudson (laughs) They just fun to catch fire. It is regrettable that there is no gas bypass, but also easy to maintain, not nervous, I thank Curt quite a sharp diversion. And PPSH41 and UZI, M16 Marushin enthusiasts or even poor-friendly system, unlike the happy cart. Metal model fire faction is recommended. _________________ Cerwyn
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| HUDSON STEN MkII VIDEO #1 HUDSON STEN MkII VIDEO #2 _________________ Cerwyn
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| Hudson submachine gun M1950 Madsen
Model is all metal, and quite heavy for most of the zinc alloy. The barrel is not consistently straight, and the bypass chamber is provided, to devise a like outgas from the muzzle. Because of Opunborutofaiaringu Furuotoonri, the structure is pretty simple.
That is the major characteristic of this model, the decomposition method. Base frame to the rear end of the barrel and remove the base color, like cracking open a chestnut and frame package. You just exposition To his shame about not hail, as It seems to instinctively turn away But no wonder why this has become a real gun, and I would be something to admire in this often goes wrong. The body already "Haikyapa" at the hands of CP's firing was. Hand without adding anything in particular, MGC was the talk of the M12S operates quite smoothly using the cart. Anyway, "Haikyapa" and a considerable faction's fire, so that adjustment yourself, I have just borrowed the chin and very easy to ignite explosives stuffed just cart. Entrusted to carefully inspect the model. In advance "so good I cheated stocks wobble" I had been in contact with, I tried to expand the stock little by way of confirmation. "Pohe" some black ones that had fallen into the hands Innovation. "Funnya?" Looking at Innovation "Hogetsu! I cracked the base of the stock !!!" The tea is great stiff Diss model appears with a strange (often rude) Even though, borrowed, but Out of those as well. Oh, I, and are suffering trying to do, "Hecha, Hocha" falling debris, and also two "Mandarinia, my God! Buddha!" Moment, "Madsen. Hokuriku not meeting the skin of the earth, fleeing at night. Missing since" I thought why not also make mistakes Thank Same day by email, "Haikyapa" to friends. "Hahaha, Shaanai, Shaanai. Late to take paid fire shall find" stock answer and exciting. No, survived. I immediately started filling powder sent to you from cart 20. The M16 was attached inner brief for the type. "Haikyapa" The story says, was that this one is good condition. Magazine prepared Cart (Shingurufidodaburukaramu) loaded into. SP is not very strong, and enter without effort from 20. Insert the magazine into the body, make sure the lock. Jumped off the top of the frame Kokkingunobu cock the bolt. Surprisingly light. I would not think a little SP do not have to be strong. In the original state, but are available Gurippuseifuti apparently, it is away. Hey, ready for firing stance while pounding During that fire, "Cone Pa" and they think and what to do in twoPull the trigger. 3rd shot as a stop. A faulty or eject. Fire again. Smoothly this time. Becomes faster than I thought, that we cart out. And can also clearly see the gas from the muzzle, firing sound good. Reaction is also not so big, nimble feel. Then, the magazine fired two minutes, and 20 automatic fire and eject failure occurs during misfire did not really succeed. Hokuriku Wed Ka is still a fit? Incidentally, I asked other people in the cart P220. The root of corruption inherent in the stock and that for this model. Beware of people with. Dodge still editing the movie.Short but a little too slow at putting the time being. Finally, "Haikyapa" because it's a message from the charge of that end it has this report. The meaning of the message, so I promise you I do not know. The message "young head. I worked!" (In what?) _________________ Cerwyn
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| HUDSON MADSEN M1950 VIDEO _________________ Cerwyn
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| HUDSON PPSh-41 ハドソンPpsh41
ハドソン製の金属長物モデル。平成18年末にリニューアルされたモデルである。 平成18年冬にショップに発注。モデルのほうはすぐ入庫したが、財布のほうが追いつかず月賦購入となり先月ようやく入手したものである。 ご存知のように実銃は第二次大戦中の旧ソビエト軍の歩兵用装備。ロシア戦線の記録映画や写真を見るとこの銃を持った兵士が必ず映っている。ドラムマガジンを装着したその特徴的な姿から「マンドリン」とか「バラライカ」とか呼ばれたらしい。 さて、ハドソン製モデルだが、箱を開け取り出してみるが、やたらと重たく持ちにくい。 それ以上に驚いたのは取扱説明書。なんとA4サイズのペーパ1枚きりである!それも片面はパーツ表であり、実質的な取説は、A1片面のみ。定価65,000円の高級モデルであるのに・・・。なんともはや、あきれた。 まぁ、気を取り直していこう^^;。 実際にこのモデルを手にしてみて、一番戸惑うのは左手の位置。 ちょうど持ちやすいところにドラムマガジンが位置しているため、どうしてもマガジンの底を持つことになるのだが、丸いマガジンの底のというのはそんなに持ちやすいものではない。かといって、マガジン前方のバレルジャケットのあたりを持つには幅の広いマガジンが邪魔になる。では、マガジンとトリガーガードの間はというと、指先のほんの少し上を高速でコッキングノブが動いているかと思うと、これも居心地が悪い。なんともすっきりこない。 それにこのトリガーガードの愛想のない形はどうだろう。いくらなんでも酷すぎやしないだろうか。 さらには、木製ストックの下側のぽってりと膨らんだラインはどうだろう。まるでストックが水を吸って、ふやけてしまったようなしまりのない形をしている。 いずれも実銃がそうなっているのであり、ハドソンが悪いのではないがそれでも一言いいたくなる。 このモデルの外見上の特徴であるドラムマガジン。実銃は71発入るそうだが、モデルガンでは42発(うち、発火可能は41発)装填できる。MGCのトンプソンのドラムマガジンは実銃用よりも優れものという評判を取ったそうだが、ハドソンのこのマガジンはどうなんだろう。ちょっと不安である。 仕様ずるカートリッジは7.62ミリ弾を模したCPタイプ。あのトカレフと共用であるが、そう聞いただけで先行き不安になるのは私だけではあるまい。 手にするまでは、正直、高級モデルなので発火しようかどうか迷ったのだが、手にしたらそんな気もなくなった。 昨年末のリニューアルでボルトを軽量化し、発火性能が上がったという。事実、ハドソンのオフィシャルサイトで発火ムービーを載せているくらいなので相当自信があるのだろう。ということで、今回はエキストラクターのスプリングを少し強めただけで、後はカートも含め全くストックの状態で発火に挑戦してみた。 手持ちのカートは13発。MGCのP220カートやマルシンのMP40カートなども流用できそうだったが、今回はハドソンに敬意を評してオリジナルを使用した。 結果はムービーのとおり、ほぼ完璧に作動した。 最初はセミからフル切り替え点射。次は一気に13連射であるが、セミ・フルはもちろん、マガジンも全くトラブルなく役割を果たした。たった13発だが作動は満点。 新品カートを使えば41連射はさして難しくないと思うが、あと30発近くそろえるのは財布がとてもつらい。旧タイプのトカレフを所有される方々。そのモデルは発火しても動かないから、カートは持っていても無駄なので私にくださいな、なんちゃって^_^;。 なお、唯一の難点はそのカートのリムの痛みが結構きついこと。エジェクターとの接点が1回でかなりへこむ。カート6発1,800円。細かいこというようだが、これは結構きつい。 ガスバイパスがないこと(初期にはあった)。高価なこと。かたちが変なこと(笑)。取説が唖然呆然愕然レベルであること。等々、難点はあるけれど、オープンボルトファイアリングのおかげもあり数少ない金属長物ブローバックモデルガンの中でも大変好調なモデル。 お勧めの逸品である。 _________________ Cerwyn
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| Hudson Ppsh41
Hudson folding models made of metal. The model is renewed at the end of 2006. Ordered shops in the winter 2006. Although the GR model more quickly, which was finally obtained last Mon and installment buying purse better keep pace. As you know the real gun equipped Soviet Army infantry during World War II. Have always reflected this gun-toting soldiers and documentary films and photos of the Russian front. From its distinctive appearance wearing the drum magazine "Mandolin" or "Balalaika" Retarashii one called. Well, I made the Hudson model, but try to open the box out, with hardly a mile Taku Shigeru. Even more surprising manual. A4 paper is one of endless whopping size! It is part one side of the table, substantial instruction manual, A1 on one side only. Even though price is 65,000 yen ・ ・ ・ luxury models. Nantomohaya, amazed. Well, take heart Take care Try to really get this model, the position of left most confused. Due to the location where the drum magazine is just easy to hold, but the bottom of the magazine will have absolutely, that is in the bottom of the round magazine is not so easy to hold. To say, or the jacket around the barrel with the magazine gets in the way forward wide magazine. In between is kind of magazine and trigger guard, and I think that is moving at high speed on a few Kokkingunobu fingertips, too uncomfortable. Downright not come clean. Forms of antisocial And what about the trigger guard. I would not do anything cruel or too much. In addition, fat and swollen line on the bottom of the wooden stock I do not know. Like smoking a water stock are not in the form of a Temari had swollen You Shina. And it has become both a real gun, the Hudson is bad but still Iitaku shout. Drum magazine apparently is characteristic of this model. I get a real gun but from 71, in a model from the 42 (out of possible 41 from the ignition) can be loaded. MGC Thompson drum magazine but it took the excellent reputation than for a real gun, this magazine I wonder if Hudson. A little sketchy. Cheat cartridge specification 7.62 mm bullets that mimic the type of CP. Tokarev will be shared with that, the uncertainty will certainly not do so alone I just heard. Hand until you are honest, but I wondered whether trying to ignite a high-end models, you do not even have to get gas. Lightweight redesign of the bolt end of last year, it raised the performance of fire. In fact, it's worth so much confidence in the movie that put the fire official in Hudson. So, this only increased slightly in the extractor spring, after the fire had challenged the state of the cart, including all stock. From the hand cart 13. P220 of the MGC MP40 Marushin carts and cart was also likely be diverted, this time using the original Hudson termed honor. As a result the movie was working almost perfectly. The first switching point shot from the semi-full. The following is a blazing 13 at once, as well as semi ・ full, with no trouble at all played a role in the magazine. It only operates from 13 full marks. 41 blazing new cart will be used to think terribly hard, nearly 30 shots the rest of the align wallet very hard. Tokarev are owned by the people of the former type. The model also fired from work, give me a cart is useless even if it has, what I got ^_^;. The only drawback is that the pain is quite tight rim of the cart. Komu to considerable contact with the ejector once. 6 from 1,800 yen cart. It seems rather small, this is pretty tight. No gas bypass (initially was). Be expensive. It is a strange shape (laughs). Appalled by the level that is stunned speechless manual. Etc., but have difficulty, even in a very good models Burobakkumoderugan partly because of the few metal folding Opunborutofaiaringu. Gem is recommended. _________________ Cerwyn
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| TANAKA GLOCK 17 HWタナカ製・グロック17 タナカ・グロック17 (概要)タナカの傑作モデルです。 私の所有しているのは、前期型のスライドがHWで、フレームがABSのものです。カートは、最初、組立式のプラ製パラカートを使用しましたが、あまりに音が大きく(最初は本当にびっくりした!)、度肝を抜かれ、それ以来ほとんど発火していませんでした。 ところが、ネットを通じて桂さんからCPカート(私はP220用を使用)が使用できると教えていただき、それでようやく落ち着いて(?)発火(それでも、結構な音がする)できるようになりました。 なお、発火を繰り返すと、バレル基部が磨耗し、バレルがスライドに激突してスライドが破損することがあるそうですが、この点も桂さんから補修方法を教えていただき(桂さんのHPのQ&Aコーナーを参照ください)、補修を行ってあります。 あと手を加えたのはスライドを簡単にガンブルーで染めた(ガングレーになっている)くらいでして、ほかに内部には一切手をつけておりません。 とにかく、オリジナルのプラ製パラカートを使用すると音もそうですが、反動も非常に鋭く強烈で、本当に実弾を発射しているような感じを受けます。 同社から、フルオート可能なグロック18モデルも販売されていましたが、セミでも強烈なのにフルで発火したらどうなるのだろうかと、とても興味があります。 (発火シーン)MGCのSIGP220用CPカートを使用しています。装弾数は16発。 はじめはもっとゆっくりとしたペースで発火しようと思ったのですが、調子のよさに、ついついトリガーハッピーになってしまいました(反省)。スライドの動きの速さに画像が追いつかない感じです。 とにかく、これは一体何?と思うような快調モデルです。 あとは、スライドがいつまで持つかというところです(怖い)。 グロック17破損顛末 14・10・1追加 突然不幸がやってきました。 大事なタナカ製グロック17のHW製スライドに重大な障害が発生し、発火不能状態に陥ってしまいました。 スライド後部、ちょうどスライドカバー(亜鉛製パーツ)がセットされる部分の両側が内側からめくれたようになり破損。 いつもどおりMGCのP220用カートを使用して発火している最中のことです。 それまでの累計発火回数は約200発程度ではないかと思います。 スライドが破損しやすいという話は以前から良く聞いてはいたのですが・・・、まだしばらく先のことと思っていたのでショックです。 ネットで拝見すると3、400発発火しても大丈夫な方もいらっしゃるようなのですが、私の取扱いが雑だったのでしょうか?以下私見 ブローバックモデルの場合、カートがブリーチを押すことによりスライドを後退させるわけですから、ブリーチがスライドに完全に固定され一体化していれば、スライドカバーに力が加わることはないはず。 ところが実際に破損したということは、何らかの原因でスライドカバーをスライドの内側から外側へ向けて押し出す、相当な力が加わったということになります。 ブリーチは凹凸でスライドにはめ込まれた上に接着剤で接着されていますので動きませんので、あと考えられるのはファイアリングピンだけ。 ファイアリングピン(前部と後部に分割されている)がカートのプライマーを叩き発火させた直後、今度は反対にプライマーが猛烈な勢いで元の位置に戻る際、戻りきっていないファイアリングピンに激突、最終的にファイアリングピンを押さえているスライドカバーに強烈な打撃を与えているのかもしれません。 そして、スライドカバーは、スライド後部の左右の溝にはまり込むことでしか固定されていませんので、結局この部分が衝撃に耐えられず、上記のような状態になったのではないかと考えれば理屈に合うのですが。 この仮説が正しいとすると、実銃の場合は強靭な鋼材が使用されていますのでなんら問題はないのでしょうが、モデルガンではたまりません。 ここはやはり何らかのアレンジが必要であったと思います。 スライドカバーとブリーチを、例えば頑丈なネジやあるいは組み込み方式で一体化し、ブリーチ全体で衝撃に耐えるような構造にする方法などが必要でないでしょうか。 今のようにスライド後端部で衝撃を抑えるという構造であれば、内部に丈夫な金属パーツをセットし、その部分で衝撃を受けるようにするとか・・・。 ハンマーを有するモデルであれば、力がハンマーに流れ、最終的に丈夫なフレーム(内部の金属製シャーシ)で受け止めることから、耐久性が高いと思うのですが。 また、私のモデルには起こりませんでしたが、このモデル、発火の衝撃でバレル基部が持ち上がりスライドのエジェクションポートの周辺を破損したりすることもあるそうですし、スライド先端部のリコイルスプリングのテンションを受ける部分もその耐久性が気になるところです。 ABS製のスライドであれば、もっと耐久性があるのでしょうけれども、やはり一抹の不安があります。 このモデルの、特にHW製スライドモデルの作動性は抜群です。 作動の確かさでは旧MGC製のCPガバが有名ですが、個人的にはこのグロックの方が上ではないかと思います。 何より、短いトリガーストロークと軽いトリガープルのおかげで、実銃並(撃ったことは無いけど)の速射が可能でした。 それだけに残念です。 実銃に即した非常にリアルな内部構造があって、この抜群の作動性が実現されたのでしょうけれども、それが両刃の刃になってしまっているような気がします。 モデルガンの設計の難しいところですね。 同社の最初のモデルガンSIG226も非常にリアルなモデルとして評判を得ていましたが、反面、破損しやすいということでした。 グロックの後に発売されたUSPでは破損の話を聞きませんので、モデルとなった実銃自体が丈夫な構造であるため、プラ材でも十分な耐久性を有しているのかもしれません(いずれも当方未入手)。 しかし、メーカーのタナカさんには何も文句はありません。 反対に、これほど素晴らしいモデルガンを製造し、販売していただいたことに感謝いたします。 当方のモデルは運悪く早々と逝ってしまいましたが、それまでの間、大変楽しい経験をさせていただきました。 初めて発火したときの驚きと喜びは今でも覚えています。
現在、補修用のABS製スライドを発注中です。 ABSスライドでどこまで調子が戻るか不明ですが、補修用パーツの在庫だけは切らさないでくださいね。 そしてまたモデルガンの世界へ戻ってきていただきたいと思います。 なお、破損した際の発火シーンも収録してありましたことから、一応アップしました。 最後の発火後のスライド後部に注目いただければ、破損しているのが視認できることと思います。 それまではご覧のとおり絶好調です。それだけに残念。 一時マルシン社が、このモデルのモデルガンの製作を発表したことがありました。 試作品まで出来ていたのに、発売が中止されたのは大変残念ですが、マルシンがどのような構造で製品化を図っていたのか大変気になります。 また、仮に、元気な頃のMGC社がこのモデルを製品化していたらどんなアレンジを施していたでしょうか。 興味は尽きませんが、叶わぬ夢ですね。 さて、これからは気を取り直して、ABS製スライドでの発火調整です。うまくいきますやら・・・。 _________________ Cerwyn
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| Tanaka Glock 17 (Overview) Tanaka is a model of the masterpiece. I have owned, HW in early-type slides, ABS frame is intended. Kurt initially made of plastic was used for sectional Parakato, too loud (the first was really surprised!), Is amazed, since it almost did not catch fire. However, from Katsura's cart through the net CP (I use the P220 for) you can use to tell me, so finally settled (?) Fire (but that sounds fine) is now available. The repeated firing, worn at the base barrel, but it may damage the slide to hit the slide barrel, you tell me how to repair the added Katsura is also this point (the added Katsura HP's Q & A Please refer to the section), and repairs made. Plus the rest of the hand slides easily dyed blue gun (the gun gray) about topic, the interior is not touched any other. Anyway, I heard the sound of plastic products using the original Parakato, very intense and sharp reaction, subject to feel like real bullets are fired. The company had been sold a Glock model 18 can be fully automatic, and what will happen if I fired a full semi-strong but there is very interesting. (Fire scene) CP SIGP220 for the MGC to use the cart. The development of your weapon and 16. At first I thought I'd fire at a slow pace more in tune to some, I have become trigger happy catapult (reflection). I feel the speed of movement can not keep up the image of the slide. Anyway, this is about? I think that model is excellent condition. The rest is just what it has forever slides (scary). Glock 17 additional damage facts 14.10.1 Misfortune came suddenly. Tanaka Glock 17 made an important failure HW made a serious slide, I have fallen into non-firing state. Slide the back, just slide the cover (parts zinc) and damage to both sides from the inside portion of Mekureta is set. P220 is that the MGC as usual while you are using a cart to catch fire. The cumulative number of times before firing it from I think at about 200. Breakable say that the slide from the previous hearing but was good, I'm shocked because it was still some time ahead of us. Net 3400 and I look at some people that can afford to fire from, what was the sloppy handling of me? Following opinion If Burobakkumoderu, because it does not retract the slide by pushing carts bleach, if you have fully integrated in the slide is fixed bleach, joining forces should not cover the slide. But that actually damaged the outward push from the inside of the slide cover slide for some reason, a force that will be significant. Bleach does not work because it has glue on irregularities embedded in the slide, and then only Faiaringupin possible. Faiaringupin (which is divided into front and rear), immediately after hitting the primer ignited the cart, now back to its original position when the fast and furious opposition to the primer, and not fully return Faiaringupin Clash may have given a strong blow on the cover holding the slide that eventually Faiaringupin. The slide cover, so it is not fixed but get stuck in the rear side of the slide groove, eventually could not withstand the impact of this part, the reason given was the idea of the situation I fit. When this hypothesis is correct, so if any problem is a real gun was used will not have a strong steel in a model is irresistible. Here are some I still had to be arranged. Bleach and a cover slide, embedded systems or unified by a screw or a sturdy example, it will be required and how to withstand the shock structure as a whole bleach. If you reduce the impact of construction on the rear end as it slides, set inside a sturdy metal parts could be made in part so shocked. If the model has a hammer, power hammer flows, sturdy frame and finally (the metal chassis inside) that catch on, but I think it highly durable. The model I have did not happen, this model also seems to be around to damage the lift at the base of the slide Ejekushonpoto the impact of the firing barrel, slide the tip of Rikoirusupuringu It is just as concerned about its durability under partial tension. If the slide made of ABS, but will there be more durable, there is still a shade of anxiety. This model, particularly the operation of the HW model of the slide made is remarkable. The certainty of the old work made by the MGC is famous CP governor, personally I think more on this Glock. Above all, thanks to a short trigger stroke Torigapuru and light, a real gun in parallel (but not be shot) was possible in rapid fire. Soredakeni Sorry. There is a very realistic internal structure in line with a real gun, but realized it was much more of this excellent work, I feel like they've turned it into a double-edged blade. It is just hard to design a model. SIG226 company's first model gun had a reputation as a very realistic model, while was that fragile. USP Glock was released after I hear the stories of corruption in itself is so sturdy structure became the model for a real gun, might have sufficient durability plastic material ( Not me get both). However, Tanaka's manufacturer does not complain anything. Conversely, to produce a model so wonderful, thank you to sell it. Our model, but unfortunately I have gone very early, in the meantime, we have a very pleasant experience. Surprise and delight when the fire still remember the first time. Currently, in order for the slide repair is made of ABS. The ABS is not known how far the slide back to normal, not only for repair parts inventory切Rasanai please do not. I would like to come back to the world and also a model. However, there also included scenes from when the fire damaged once uploaded. You'll notice the slide back after the last firing, I think that is visible is damaged. Until then, as you can see I'm great. Soredakeni sorry. Marushin companies temporary announced that there was a model of the production of this model. I was able to prototype, and the launch is aborted regret on my mind how much product was in order to improve the structure of how the Marushin. Also, temporarily, the MGC about what was healthy what I was subjected to the arrangement of this model's product. Are interested in many worlds, it is a dream come true.Well, now is feeling very, ABS slide adjustment is made in the firing. Yara works. _________________ Cerwyn
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| TANAKA GLOCK 17 HW VIDEO #1 NO LONGER AVAILABLE TANAKA GLOCK 17 HW VIDEO #2 _________________ Cerwyn
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| TANAKA GLOCK 17 ABS PART 2
ABSスライド調整その2 14・10・8
前回の調整では何とか15連射には成功していますが、確実性に乏しく、特に不発には相当悩まされました。 その後も何度か発火しておりますが、どうしても不発が発生し、1マガジン完全発火はなかなかうまくいきません。 当初、不発の原因としては、①各スプリングのバランスが崩れたことにより、スライドの閉鎖具合が完全でなくファイアリングスプリングの打撃力が完全に活かされていないことと、②度重なる不発弾への打撃により、ファイアリングピン(プラ製)の先端が変形し短くなるとともにブリーチ内壁に接触し、打撃力が減殺されていること、の2点を考えておりました。
【ディトネーターの加工】 ところがそれ以外にも原因があることを発見、というか完全に見落としていました。 オリジナルのディトネーターでは、ほんのちょっとP220用カートには長さが足りないようです。 このことは以前から知識として有していたのですが、今回すっかり忘れていました。 以前のHWスライドの際は、何の調整もせず、オリジナルのディトで快調な作動を得ていましたが、今回ABSスライドに換装し、いろいろ手を入れた結果、それがマイナス(例えば上記①、②)に働いて不発が生ずることとなったようです。
あともう一つ、オリジナルのディトをご覧になると分かりますが、このモデルのディト、先端はえらく細くとがっており、かつ、材質の硬度もかなり高いようです。 そのため、CPのインナーを使用し続けるとインナーの中心部がへこんでしまいます。 そうするとごく僅かですが相対的にディトの長さが短くなり、一層不発の可能性が増加するように思われます。
現状でも、7、8割程度の確率で発火しますので、それ程ディトの長さを延長する必要はありませんが、例え1ミリでも短いものを長くするのは面倒です。 しかし、カートをセットするとき、一々キャップとプライマーの間にスペーサーを挟むのも面倒なので、やはりディトを交換することにしました。 たまたま、何かの調整の際に加工したM712用のディトがちょうど良さそうだったのでこれを使用しました。 長さはオリジナルのディトより1ミリちょっと長くしただけです(あとで気が付きましたがこれは少し短かったようで失敗)。 ただ、問題は直径。M712のディトは若干細いことから、固定がうまくいきません。 仕方なく、周囲に水道配管用のパッキンテープを巻きつけ、無理やり押し込む形で固定。 なお、固定用のイモネジをあまり強く締め付けるとディトが押され、センターを外れてしまいますので適当なところでやめておきます。 もっといいのはM39(439)用ディト、サイズが似通っており加工の手間が少なくて済むと思います。 ただし太さはM712用と同様に修正する必要あります。 また、MP40用であれば太さはOKですが長さの修正は必要です。
【リコイルスプリングのテンション強化】 ①については、リコイルスプリングのテンションを強める方法を試してみました。 具体的には1ミリ厚のゴムシートから外径9ミリ内径6ミリのパッキンを2個つくり、リコイルスプリングガイドにセット。 2ミリ程度であれば、スライドの後退量にはそれ程変化はなく、スライドストップも普通のとおり作動します。
【ファイアリングピン】 ②については、先端部を修正するしかありません。 改造防止のため、スライドに接着されたブリーチ部をはずさなければファイアリングピンは分解できない仕組みになっておりますので、そのままでの作業はつらいのですが、できる範囲でやるしかありません・・・。
なお、変形を防止するには、不発が発生した際は改めて打撃することはやめ、一旦そのカートの使用は諦めるというということを徹底するしかないでしょう。 ご存知の方も多いことと思いますが、キャップ火薬は一度中途半端な打撃を受け発火せず火薬面が変形した場合、2度目以降の打撃で発火する可能性は余りありません。 感情的になり何度も打撃を繰り返すのはまったく無駄ですし、故障の原因となります(大きなことは言えないが・・・)。
【鉛板の接着】 上記以外には、スライド内部両側面に鉛の薄板を接着しました。 鉛はホームセンターの釣具売場で見つけた薄板を重ねてサイズが合うようにして使用。 重ね合わせる面にも接着剤をつけ、万力に挟み込み1枚の板にします。 あまり欲張ってぎりぎりの厚みのものにしますと、何かの拍子でバレルサイドに接触し、作動不良の原因となりますので気をつけてください。 重さがどれだけ増えたか計量していないので不明ですが、そこそこ重たくなったようです。 ただ、HW並かというとちょっと疑問。まだ少し軽いように感じます。 前回行なったプランジャースプリング等の加工は必要ないかもしれませんが、一応この状態(3ミリのスペーサーをセット)で発火を試みます。 鉛板がはずれないことを祈るのみです。
なお、鉛板を接着しますと、前回説明いたしました桂さんや「G17」さんのされたバレル周囲へのスプリング追加による調整方法は不可能になりますのでご注意下さい。 また、鉛板は出来れば私のように薄板を重ねるのではなく、一枚のもののほうがベターです。 私も探したのですが、見つからず諦めました。 大都市の方であればハンズ等で入手出来るかもしれません。 あったら、どなたか送ってください。お願いしま~す(笑)。
【フィーディング】 私の場合、ABSスライドの大きな問題であったフィーディング障害は少なくともP220カートを使用する限りはほとんど発生していません。 また、発生したとしてもストーブパイプジャム(だからといっていいわけじゃないが・・・)。 何でストーブパイプジャムが発生するのかは・・・分かりません(笑)。 私、こういうところはまったく分かりません。 かなり使い込んだカートなので、リム周りが傷んでいるのが原因かも・・・。 正直なところ、このモデルのABSスライドモデルのフィーディング障害の原因がスライド重量に起因するなど、教えていただけなければまったく気が付きませんでした。 私一人だけであったら、10年経ってもわけが分からず首をひねっていたことと思います(笑)。 なお、ABSスライド入手後、調整のためいろいろな条件で発火を繰り返したところ、バレルのフィーディングランプはがたがたになってしまいました。 いまのところP220カートを使用するに限れば、問題は発生しないようですが、念のため予備バレルを購入しておいたほうが良さそうです。
【カート】 オリジナルのパラカートを使用することももちろん考えたのですが、メタルカートは、アルミ製の弾頭のネジ部が腐食しケースへのセットが大変面倒になってしまいましたし、プラカートは、スリーブの取り付け、取り外しが厄介ですし、いずれもインナーのOリングの耐久性がとんでもなく低く、発火前後のメンテナンスの手間がCPやPFCの比ではありません。 よほど気持ちと時間にゆとりがないと使用する気にはなりません。 発火音、リコイルとも他と一線を画する高性能カートですが、レース用エンジンのごとく手間が掛かり、面倒なことが嫌いな私には手に余ります。 メタルカートの先端はごく狭い範囲ですが水平に面取りしてあります。 この、弾頭部のカーブから面取りされた平面部へ移る角の部分を滑らかにすれば、若干なりともフィーディング障害は減少するのではないかと思うのですが未確認です。 なお、尖らせる方向で加工しますと、おそらく一層フィーディングが悪化するのではないかと思いますので注意願います。 弾頭部を電動ドリルにはさみ、回転させながらスチールウール等に垂直に押し付けるやり方がいいのかなと思っています。 ただし、作業の際は怪我をしないようにご注意を。
【その他】 このモデルの弱点は耐久性といいますか、私も含め多くの皆さんが経験したスライド破損にあります。 また、その破損部分もそれぞれ違うようです。 私のようにスライド後部が破損する場合、バレルが持ち上がりエジェクションポート周辺を破損する場合、それとスライド先端、リコイルスプリングがセットされる箇所が破損する場合と3つあるようです。
この中で比較的防止しやすいのが、バレルの持ち上がりによるスライド上部の破損。 バレル基部に補強用のピンを打ち込めばある程度持ち上がりを防止できる(桂さんのHPの過去の「Q&A」に詳細あり)ようですが、これとて完全ではなく、フレーム側のバレルロックが反対に削られ、あえなくダウンすることもあるようです(今回の発火で私のバレルも破損しました)。 他の2つの破損については、発生しないことを祈るのみ。 とにかく抜本的な対応策がないのがつらいところです。
【発火】 ディトネーターの交換、リコイルスプリングのテンション強化、プランジャースプリングのテンション強化、スライド内部への鉛板接着、それにファイアリングピン周りの調整。 これらの調整を行った上で発火です。 P220カートは15発。プライマーはマルベリのアルミ製をセットしてあります。 収録前にこの状態で1度発火したところ、見事に1マガジン15発完全発火成功。それも速射で。 ところが、よく見るとバレル基部、ちょうどフレームにかむ左側のレールが破損していました。 慌ててアクリルサンデーで接着した後、もう1本補強ピンを差し込みました。 また、スライド内部の鉛板も片側がはがれそうでしたので、これも一旦はがし、再度今度はエポキシ系の瞬間接着剤で接着しなおしました。 先行き不安ですが、差し当たりほかに良策もなく、一晩おいた上で再度発火に挑戦します。 翌日発火しましたが、やはりバレル基部の破損と発火中スライド内側の鉛板が外れかけたりした影響で、今ひとつ完調とはいきませんでした。 また、ディトの長さがまだ足りないのか、1マガジンあたり1発か2発不発が生じます。 もう少し長くする必要がありそうですね。 バレル基部は最終的に完全に破損。 しかしスライド等への影響はなく、不幸中の幸いというところです。 それでも60発以上発火し、すべて収録しましたので適当につなぎ合わせたムービーを用意しました。 出来は良くありませんが発火数はマシンガン並です(笑)。 調子の良くないところを数で補いました(笑)。 なお、長さは30秒、800KB以上ありますのでご注意を。
【終わりにあたり】 ストライカーによる発火方式を取り、なおかつショートリコイルするモデルガンはこのモデルだけ。 また、ディスコネクター(当モデルの場合は「コネクター」)も通常の前後上下の動きではなく、左右の動きをするという、大変個性的なモデルです。 それらの特徴が影響しているのかもしれませんが、調整のスイートスポットが他のモデルに比べ少々狭いように感じます。 その反面、ツボにはまれば抜群の性能を見せてくれますが、厄介なモデルであることには変わりありません。 HWスライドモデルは箱出しの状態で見事にバランスが取れた優等生でしたが、ABSスライドモデルは、専用のパラカートと同じようにレーサー並の調整が必要みたいです。 その調整方法も、桂さんや「G17」さんのされたバレル周囲にスプリングを追加する方法があれば、私が行ったように重量を増やす方法がありますし、使用するカートによっても自ずと本体の調整方法や加減が異なってきます。 また、今回の調整のベースはセミオートのG17でしたが、フルオートのG18ではこれらの調整方法が素直に当てはまるか断言できません。 フルでは相当回転が速いでしょうから、バレルの後退がスライドの後退に追いつくか不安です。 まずはバレル周囲にスプリングを追加する方法を試し、それでもうまくいかないようであれば、錘を装着する方法を考えた方がよろしいかと(なんとなればスプリング追加は現状復帰が可能ですが、錘の装着はそれが難しい)。
以上、思い付きの数々、皆様方にご迷惑をおかけしないですめば幸いです(笑)。 さて、またパーツを発注しなくっちゃ・・・。 スライド、バレルは同様な改良を施し、ディトはMP40用から改造する予定で再調整しようかと考えています。 でも、どうなることやら・・・。
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| Volume 17ABS Tanaka Glock model made slides As we reported last time, HW slide is damaged, we replace the ABS致Shi方Naku slide. HW slide model, the model was a masterpiece boasts a top-level operation Handoganmoderugan among other things, on the contrary ABS slide model is quite unpopular. No one from the people "and I do not think the same model," and received a feedback. My Glock has become such a model. This adjustment is aiming to revive. The adjustment relates, through the net like-minded person "G17" careful adjustment information you provided to you by. Be very helpful, saved. Thank you. "G17"'s part of how our views of the adjustment will be introduced in the following description. Status of slump; ABS Fidingutoraburu trouble as it appears in the model. Is that it does not work after loading the next round of fire. Since this model is to reproduce Shotorikoiru, when the slide is retracted, the barrel retreat, in fact, fall back a little obliquely, now moves to the optimal point to be loaded into the chamber well Cart I. However, ABS is not working models of this series of motions. This may be due to move too fast for the slide is lightened from the back of the slide back enough to fit the barrel, crashed into the end of the cart Fidinguranpu taken from magazines, there would Tsukkae that is. HW model is relatively slow movement of the slide because of the weight from the barrel can be fully retracted, the cart can run up Fidinguranpu problems. However, when pulling the slide by hand, the barrel will not work because the force is applied commonplace any kind, when the ignition is mainly due to the explosion of gunpowder cart, then the slide into the power to back, in front and the situation is different from the work force to advance the barrel. If a real gun, after firing, and retreated to the first slide and barrel together, continue to retreat, only slides. For a model, but retreated after firing first slide only after leaving the inner barrel Ditoneta in cart and then provided separately by the power Shotorikoirusupuringu and finally decided to retreat and barrel Masu. We must move in mind working around here. - Adjustment plan; In this model to smoothly and what to do is called, two way street. First slide that heavy. But Ikimasen easily. There is some space inside the front side of the slide, 1 mm thick, where the short side 15 mm, 80 mm edge length (incorrectly) that if there is a way to gum up a strong lead plate about I think. If this position does not interfere anywhere I think. But do not try it, please do not trust. The weight is not known by itself be sufficient. Please tell us success (laughs). Another is called to force the barrel or of having the retreat at a rate competitive to ensure the operation of the sliding speed. It seems everyone is pretty twist. The person in question's Katsura Katsura's page also, add a barrel around Rikoirusupuringu (PPK and Browning 380 images please) that will ensure the back as he barrels during the slide back. Also, "G17" He has been an improvement is also added. "G17" is added as a new self-made from piano wire Rikoirusupuringu, looked like spring was pretty loose. Other "G17" added Hall, slide around the barrel of the barrel (?) Inside, when the barrel is retracted, the internal resistance so as not to slide and how to cut in front of the plate is bonded to Ejekushonpoto ABS, When the slide back, it hit the barrel chamber is also practiced how to start running back to force a barrel, also made of plastic Parakato, he will go into operation almost certainly obtained (envy).
The inside is about how to bond ABS barrel plate, HW ABS slide and I noticed something interesting comparison Itashimashitara slide. Has been provided both inside the slide one step. This is a "G17" but as a friend, slide back, hit the front part of the difference in this chamber, I think back to initiate action to force the barrel. "G17" If it was added to ensure this. But that position is the position difference in HW and ABS, ABS is in close Ejekushonpoto, HW has been provided in the end. HW and I think that ABS is caused by differences in the operation of the HW down the barrel and this is about the slide is almost fully finished back in, ABS is still in recession in the slide (at the earliest possible stage of it) a barrel It seems intended to drive down. However, hitting the curl in the front chamber, the less worried about the effect diminishes. Well, I thought I was different ABS how to adjust the slide before we can get this basically a "roll back quickly to ensure the barrel" to adjust the direction. I was great Barerupuranja. It is not intended to force the barrel set back in the spring force, to operate Burobakkumoderugan Shotorikoiru springs are used in some form. What about exceptions Government of the MGC. If the HW, but it was not enough of the original strength of the spring, ABS, this strength in the idea enough thought and thought and not what can I do to strengthen this spring. So I looked it was found that the spring can be diverted, the first end diameter of 5 mm 8 mm in length (modified after) Rikoirusupuringugaido darken in the plastic stick around, it springs from the Doctor geta set by spring (tension), enhanced. In addition, since the tight relationship between the bad behavior slide and barrel, polishing the barrel in the hole and touch the side and slide inside the chamber. Same side of the barrel of the lock barrel is set in a frame. After that it is a good opportunity, to completely digest of the frame (the first time! Very easy!) And cleaning the interior, as well as磨Ki込Mimashita rail section. - Adjustment of ignition; Premiere ○ (exciting, excited) First, using the original metal cart. In the first 15 rounds only three or four times Fidingutoraburu experience. he malfunction occurred on several occasions, the slide stop and explode. It is almost the same result as the next 15 rounds. Fidingutoraburu about everything, I thought about not count, but a little relieved it's weakened the slide stop malfunction and explode. Malfunction of the slide stop and think because the reaction is too strong. HW was in fact made of plastic is also used when Parakato, often malfunction occurred as a slide stop. We still use the cart P220, improved feeding and explores the way on that dud. 30 shots fired in the cart P220 convenience. Fidingutoraburu only once (was it?), No malfunction of the slide stop, But the misfire occurs. The misfire may have caused an imbalance for the entire spring. Rikoirusupuringu is forward into the slide and Faiaringupinsupuringu Puranjasupuringu (at Hancock) is trying to slide backwards押Shiyarou the opposite. The original state is strong enough Rikoirusupuringu slide is closed, so almost certainly be released if Faiaringupin, the striking force is transmitted securely cart. But since I'm having enhanced Puranjasupuringu, this imbalance becomes Rikoirusupuringu relatively weak, incomplete closure of the slide (just a little barrel retracted state) seems to have gotten into. Therefore, when you hit the cart Faiaringupin order to move forward with very little barrel away the power (or current) did not think the idea of striking force is utilized fully. I might be stronger if the Rikoirusupuringu, there is something very much appropriate. Also, if you strongly Rikoirusupuringu, the speed rises and the operation of the slide, it could be a new experience and not intended for any other problems. In this regard, and Katsura's "G17" in a manner providing a new Rikoirusupuringu's barrel was selected in the closing stages if you adjust the length of the slide well, the force applied to the barrel and slide a little extra from ginger, and I think hydraulic advantage. No piano wire, what's wrong but I took the easy way and even annoying to own. The decline in P220 Fidingutoraburu or sold, I think there is reason in the shape of the tip of the cart. Compared to the metal cart, P220 tip the cart because it is very smooth, maybe even something that deception is effective position of the barrel a little worse. This day is done. On the second day ○ (c ~ application. Formidable) Why are you look a little bent intently to Faiaringupin. HW Faiaringupin damaged in the slide is not like that. ABS indeed on the slide, when it attempted to fire several times during the misfire, the pin is I did not think that the very, very much気Ni入Rimasen. What I'm worried that other issues I care about not putting something. If there is enough to deform the pin shot, I think fire is authentic. Pin modifications made in the meantime, P220 re-ignite your cart. More convenient for firing 60 shots. Along the way, the correct Puranjasupuringu after a 5 mm plastic stick Kaseta, 15 from a magazine once, you are continuously firing just fine. Be happy to prepare the recording, you fire again, this time worn. Misfire occurs about five times disappointed. The results were not feeding the penetration occurs only three times Sutobupaipujamu. Kolya and Bye? Oh boy Oh boy, at the end of the second day too. "G17" friends said, "firing anhydride." Well, you're right. Third day, ○ (chewy) Looking to cart P220, from the bottom center Puraimahoru deformation continued to be hit over the years (as narrow), it was, and then modified to reduce the resistance around the chamfered even slightly. Also, when the Faiaringupin hit, so you can move one less gunpowder and a primer cap, inside a cart, neatly polished to focus on where the compound is set deep in powder and caps in particular primer Masu. However, the use of the compound and not just in this secluded place, care must be taken down because it can degrade the performance of the degree of sealing cart. Another cause of the misfire is not clear. Was at 5 mm plunger geta certainty of closing the slide seems to be raised somehow, cause misfire is still frustrating. Why is it that the shot is made as to deform the tip of the Faiaringupin. Transform that is a force that met with fierce obstacles, obstacles are only possible in this case the cart. Chance, but I also thought of hitting different parts of the primer rather than the partial seems to not like that. What is wrong explosive cap maybe? Well, I always use the color of the powder from the metal caps (red) and a bit dull, but the fact was worrisome. Now try to use dry powder caps just enough to buy the other day. On this day in an honest way chewy cleaning cart is finished. On the fourth day ○ (end once) Go home early while being battered by a little checkup. While aside, equipped with new and old nurse population, "Nurse Jobs" to attack the little white flag state. AWAY Golon, applications are rolled and grounder over here, feel like as if frozen tuna. Less (equivalent), but the dizzy, feeling very into firing. In the day before the cart and making it beautiful, and dry powder in the cap well under the desk lamp turned on, the thorough preparation. Oil caught inside on a set from 15 (17 can be loaded from reality.) Since some have never been the hope of the Journal is ready to fire. It was a success. Impressive 15 rounds, fire completely without any problems. No we have introduced in this movie is the scene when firing. It stood in the face somehow, HP does not need to escape the hot breath fold. But then should not be. The misfire occurs about four times per one magazine and then I continued to fire. Still "firing anhydride." After the cart because it was carefully cleaned in quite a successful second day of fire, the establishment of more fire to it - albeit cumbersome and gunpowder cart might go up considerably. Seems to have little need to review the balance of the springs. Faiaringupin exactly primer cart slides closed in full - if hitting, so it should almost certainly be fired, aiming to re-consider such a state. Apology and thanks; Therefore recommended to adjust this time, HP and Katsura's "G17" we have adjusted the plan's reference. Especially "G17" added together with you to explain very carefully diagrams and photos are very grateful. Thank you. From my lack of technology, but could not get the full operation. However, adjustments made my way, "G17" what's done is different. "G17" If you go in the draft's, I think would be the perfect chance to get much work. Among the most effective additions to guess what the spring around the barrel. Shotorikoiru as smooth barrel and it would not do enough rice Kio Migaku parts. We felt like that. Anyway, how would you approach a lot, ABS model and although the slide in ingenuity, HW is that it is possible to achieve working model close to the slide. Just because I worked for two. There was sour grapes (laughs). We'll pray the good fight of everybody _________________ Cerwyn
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| TANAKA GLOCK 17 ABS PART 2
The slide adjustment ABS 2 15.10.8
The last adjustment to the blaze, but somehow 15 is successful, poor reliability, has been plagued by a misfire especially appropriate. We will then fired several times, surely misfire occurs, firing a full magazine does not work easily.
Initially, as the cause of the misfire by an imbalance of each spring ①, and not being fully utilized Faiaringusupuringu strike capabilities not complete closure of the sliding condition, to the repeated duds ② The shot Faiaringupin (manufactured plastic) in contact with the inside wall with bleach shorter tip is deformed, it has diminished the power stroke, Orimashita consider two points.
[Ditoneta processing;
Also found that other causes, however, Rather was completely overlooked. The original Ditoneta, P220 cart is a little bit so is not long enough. This is a knowledge I had before, was now forgotten. HW during the previous slide, without adjusting to what was obtained by Dito original operating smoothly and this time, the ABS retrofit slide their hands into various results, it is negative (① above example, ②) was the occurrence of the misfire seems to work. One more thing, and know that to see the original Dito, Dito this model, the pointed tip is mighty thin, and the hardness of the material seems to be much higher. Sono Tame, CP is the center of a dent will continue to use the inner and inner. Dito shorter length of relatively very few then, is likely to increase further the possibility of misfires. Even with the current, about 7-8 percent chance of fire since the need to extend the length of which is not too Dito, to 1 mm long in short example is tedious. However, when setting the cart, too cumbersome, so put a spacer between a primer cap and we decided to also replace the Dito. Happened during the adjustment process was something which M712 was used because it was just good for Dito. The length is just slightly longer than one millimeter of the original Dito (which will fail at a later noticed that a little short.) But the problem is in diameter. Dito that M712 is a little thin, but not working fixed. Reluctantly, the wrap around water pipes Pakkintepu for a fixed wedge form. The Dito is pressed too strongly tightened the screws for fixing the potatoes, leave because I stopped off at the appropriate centers. Or better M39 (439) for Dito, I think the less processing effort and similar in size. However, the thickness may be required to modify the M712 for the same. In addition, MP40, if the thickness is OK for long But corrections are required.
- Strengthening Rikoirusupuringu tension;
① On the way I tried to strengthen Rikoirusupuringu tension. Specifically, the packing of two Kuri Hatsu 6 mm diameter 9 mm outer diameter from 1 mm thick rubber sheet, Rikoirusupuringugaido set. If two millimeters, the amount has not changed Sore程slide back and works well as a normal slide stop.
[Faiaringupin;
And ② is only to fix the tip. Prevent alteration, Faiaringupin be part bleach Hazusanakere bonded to the slide mechanism so we can become degraded, are still working hard for not only me as possible. However, to prevent deformation, in the event of misfire can stop hitting it again, once the cart is used to ensure that you should ever give up and say. I think that many of you know, when the cap is deformed face powder does not ignite gunpowder once hit a half-hearted, could ignite the second time since the strike is not over. Hit repeat again and again is a waste became quite emotional and cause trouble (will not say great things.)
[Adhesion of lead plate;
In addition to the above, lead to a thin sheet of adhesive on both sides inside the slide. Lead is used to fit the size of a thin overlay of fishing gear found in the home improvement department. Put glue overlay surface, the clamping plates in a vise. The thickness of the edges and those greedy little contact with the barrel side for some reason, please be careful because it may cause malfunction. It is unclear whether it does not measure how much more weight, it becomes stiff and reasonably so. However, HW question or rather a little average. Still feel like a little light. Puranjasupuringu made last time, but such processing may not be necessary, once this condition (set to 3 mm spacer) attempts to ignite. I only hope that come off the lead plate. The lead plates and glue, and we explained last Katsura's "G17" How to adjust to the surroundings by adding the barrel of the spring's Please note that not possible.
The lead plate rather than overlapping as I thin if you can, what's better is one piece. I looked I also found and gave up. Hands may be possible if other people get in big cities. There, please send someone. I will appreciate - The (laughs).
[Feeding]
In my case, ABS was a major problem with feeding disorders at least P220 slide as long as you do not use the cart rarely occurs. Moreover, even Sutobupaipujamu occurred (not excuse the mean.) I do not know what can occur Sutobupaipujamu (laughs). I like this I do not know at all. Since quite worn cart, maybe that is damaged due around the rim. Honestly, this model due to the weight of ABS and the cause of the fault slide slide feeding model, Itadakenakere I did not notice it at all. Only one person had been a, I think knowing that it was not even turned a head after 10 years (laughs).
In addition, ABS Slide After getting, the firing was repeated in order to adjust a variety of conditions, I have become Fidinguranpu barrel rattled. As far as the P220 at the moment to use the cart, but avoid the problem seems to be good idea to keep spare barrels purchased just in case.
[Cart]
Of course, I also thought about using the original Parakato, metal cart, and I have become very complicated set of screws to the case of corroded aluminum warhead, Purakato the mounting sleeve , but it is difficult to be removed, both the inner ridiculously low durability of the O-ring, and zero maintenance compared to PFC and CP before and after the fire is not. Without the latitude to use care and time must be compelling feeling. Firing sound, but apart from the other cart both high recoil, take some time like a race engine, that I do not like messy hands余Rimasu.
Metal cart to the end of the bevel is a very narrow range horizontally. This problem, we move smoothly into the corners of the curve in the plane of the truncated warhead, feeding disorders and some even think that is unconfirmed but the idea of decreasing. The direction and machined steeple, please note that I think the idea of feeding more likely to deteriorate. Warhead of an electric drill scissors, I think you might find it a force perpendicular to the other way while rotating the steel wool. However, when the work is to pay attention to avoid injury.
Other:
How weaknesses of this model is referred to as durable, and slide the damage experienced by many of you including me. It is also different as the damaged portion respectively. Damage the rear slide, like me, can damage the barrel is lifted Ejekushonpoto around the tip slide it and it seems as if there are three places where corruption is set Rikoirusupuringu. Are relatively easy to prevent in this corruption at the top of the slide by lifting the barrel. Can be prevented from lifting some have打Chi込Me pin reinforced base barrels ('s Katsura HP's past "Q & A" in detail) seems not entirely to this, remove the opposite lock barrel frame side which, sadly seems to be down there (with my broken ignition barrels this time). For the other two broken only hope that does not occur. It is just that there is no hard and drastic measures anyway.
[Fire]
Ditoneta exchange, Rikoirusupuringu tension reinforcement, strengthening Puranjasupuringu tension, adhesion to the lead plates inside the slide, adjust Faiaringupin around it. I made these adjustments on fire. Curt from P220 15. Primer is set to mulberry aluminum. I fired once before recorded in this state, the success ignited a wonderfully full 15 rounds magazine. In rapid fire, too. But look closely at the base barrel was damaged frame rails just chew on the left. After the acrylic adhesive in a hurry Sunday, reinforcing one another stuck a pin. Since one side seemed to be peeling lead plate inside the slide, remove once again, this time to re Naoshimashita instant epoxy glue. It is uncertainty, in addition to no good way for now, challenging kept overnight again on the ignition.
Fire but the next day, the effects of over or slide off the side of the lead plates inside the barrel and fire damage to the base again, with much interest did not go completely adjusted. Also, what is still lacking Dito length will cause a misfire from 2発Ka per magazine. It is likely to be longer. Base and eventually permanently damage the barrel. No such effect on the slide, but that is where It could have been worse. But more than firing up 60 shots, suitably prepared for the movie tie it together with all recorded. Made a few not so nice is the average firing machine gun (laughs). Where the number of tones offset by good (laughs). ]Because as for length 30 seconds, it is above 800KB, note.
As for the model cancer/gun which takes the ignition system by the striker, still the short recoil does just this model. In addition, either the disco nectar (in case of this model “connector”) is not the movement of the usual front and back top and bottom, you say that it moves left and right, very much it is the unique model. Perhaps, those features have influenced, but sweet spot of adjustment in comparison with the other model a little the narrow way you are moved. On the other hand, if it is fixed to the pot, preeminent efficiency is shown, but it does not change to the fact that it is the troublesome model. The box it produced the HW sliding model and it was the honor-student whom balance takes beautifully in state, but as for the ABS sliding model, is in the same way adjustment like the racer necessary as the private para cart like. If that adjustment, Katsura and a method of adding the spring around the barrel where “G17” is done there is, as I go, there is a method of increasing weight and, with the cart which is used naturally adjustment method and allowance of the substance differ. In addition, the base of the latest adjustment was semi automatic G17, but with full automatic G18 these adjustment methods are applicable gently or, you cannot assert.
With full suitable revolution is fast, because probably will be, retreat of the barrel overtakes the retreat of sliding or, it is insecure. First if it seems that you try the method of adding the spring around the barrel, sow already does not go with that and, whether the person who devised of the method of installing the spindle may that (how it becomes, spring addition present condition return is possible, but installing the spindle that is difficult). If above, we not applying annoyance on the numbers and everyone one of conceiving it does not have it is fortunate (laughing). Well, in addition not to order the part, the [tsu] [chi] [ya]…. Sliding and the barrel administer similar improvement, [deito] that thinks whether it will readjust in the schedule which remodels from one for MP40. So, how becoming…. _________________ Cerwyn
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| Tanaka Glock 18 The hand gun can fire a full semi-switched. Moderugurokku masterpiece of its base 17. Apparently the difference between the left and slide mounted selector barrel length. Basically, the silhouette does not change any kind. You know that many people were sold the first G17 was HW slide smoothly and despite the (price?) A series of slide damage, the slide is a workaround ABS (against the frame and HW or) we become. Slides from this model are then sold to the ABS. "G17's volume," but as mentioned, HW slide, I was having a great performance, then the ABS slide work became a model miserable difficult. The reason is the collapse of the barrel Tirutotaimingu slide to a decrease in weight, it means that Fidingutoraburu frequent. In other words, rapid-fire itself is difficult. There is also a percussion mechanism is that the striker system, adjusted to Rikoirusupuringu badly for Barerutiruto Shotorikoirusupuringu would misfire is occurring and for the balance of firing spring (experienced). G17 semi-automatic just to bring this situation to even, G18 is fully automatic. Hand-Held Fully automatic high speed would be worth probably fall into the slump despite a slight deviation is of course a series of work. In pristine conditions, but those who come do not know full well the fire, honestly hope持Tenai model.
I still do not have full auto eyes. Everywhere, "I wanted. I wanted," I would like to continue, and early next year, by some freak coincidence舞I込N have the G18 Glad Yara, Yara surprising that other models to adjust immediately to Utchatsu取Ri掛Karimashita. Recently seen on the net "T3" in the movie prior Glock magazine wearing long (model number unknown), there was a scene shot in full auto. Thinking "Oh well'm Oira Yattaru!" And suggestion. The goal is high, honestly means to begin the work ^ ^ [Model] to obtain Hand into the G18. Was once entrusted. From your opponent who is "nice to not have to return the love. I do not mind breaking. Perfunctory let it all goes well but the full experience " and with your words. The model itself is already in a fire is made of mulberry Rikoirusupuringu Ditoneta and that there is a CP for the cart to change. The length of Mulberry Dito made 43 mm and the way a little bit. Previously I worked for my homemade G17 CP Dito for the length of the cart "little bit" to exactly the same size. I wish happy. I gained more confidence Looking after the well has been damaged some parts of the strikers, for here we have taken part is sent along a set of ported from G17. Once back to the original Rikoirusupuringu also. Incidentally, also damaged his borrowed tractor for export G17 The barrel is not something for the G18, G17 for what was attached. [Adjustment] Enhanced Shotorikoiru G17 spring in full operation aimed at somehow. Things around here "G17ABS volume of" I know you can see the. But far from confident "perfect" and say there is no level. I could also be adopted for the lead plate is bonded to the sliding weights inside afterwards, but it completely, and finally by repeated contact with the side impact and barrel, peel off the chasm that lead plate suffered setbacks in (+_+). Again, "Katsura's" and "G17's," adding that the spring around the barrel, and the best decision to ensure fast movement out of the barrel. However, it also takes care to make your own bent piano wire spring, no anything technical. Be substituted for any spring, when I went to home improvement stores and models have always looked around, found a lot. Since then, "I do not do something," just working great but with・・・, there! Found in junk box people! MGC Ingram originally made for the magazine spring. Previously, there was left a cut just in case, the barrel of a Glock被Sarimasu it beautifully. Suitably cut to fit the length of the barrel first, first found in G17. 1 P220 only charged from the powder cart cap, loading, firing. Ejection cart will be open will not hold. From one another as well. Again, because it seems that spring is too strong, add, cut about two volumes, try again. Now hold open succeeds beautifully. Also follows. G18 immediately confirmed. This is also a success.
This spring, the slide closure that takes a little short, but not tension-free almost anywhere in the state, including the compressed and slide back and prompts you to tilt the barrel by pressing Bareruchanba. With the slide fully retracted, the tension is significant. Maintains the retracted position to ensure the barrel. If someone would turn out as expected this work, should work even in full. And if you back position to ensure that the barrel, P220 should be available in 9mm no problem other than cart-based real cart. Expectation arises suddenly and becomes this. Prepare in moderation immediately adjusted from 10 to cart P220. The semi-fire first. This is perfect! However, the deformation of the slide stop, hold open the slide failed to lick away. This is one of the drawbacks of this model. Slide stop operation of the plane is being pressed to cross the frame, work surface and spread away to continue to use, you will teetering from side to side. Therefore, when the floor is pushed up in the magazine, ran away to the outside will not come into contact with only a handful of slides. At first, I somehow still held open, plastic and metal, it becomes more持Tanaku in the slide. The last line is completely out lick away the slide notch. This would be replaced with a new slide or give up and re-cut a notch (a position slightly lower than the original) is the only way. Avoid such a situation, the looseness of the slide stop should I've been careful. The workaround is easy, just like a pair of pliers and fixed in the right frame width of the part the press. I then fired several times in the semi, but occasionally misfire occurs, feeding disorder is none. The model gun misfire, and the fate of the model割Ri切Rimasu striker too. One more thing. During full operation, the selectors would otherwise slide just before closing, you cut off the connection with the striker bar is depressed the trigger end portion of the shear. The striker forward, I repeat the process of inflammation. But know that this model may be just shallow and very few of the contact and shear selector shear Kirazu down at times when there was a full break. We bend over just a little part of Russia, ensuring coordination in contact with the selectors. Perhaps, may be deformed out can continue. Please. On subjected to these adjustments, the full challenge. [Fire] There are three movies. Only 4 seconds long . 10 automatic fire, automatic fire blazing it and 12 3. It was supposed to blaze a blazing 10 and 15 Actually, I have become the eyes and explode to 13. We have put three between the blaze. Well, better if you still blazing 12. The resignation opens the hold from the beginning to the last bullet I've set the explosives cart No compression. Rotation is a very, very fast as you imagine. Dolphin (HW) or more, M93R what average. ABS slides, so the reaction is as strong as it sounds, but you feel the vibration in your hand exploded as we are excited (^ o ^)丿. Firing sound is good! The original model for firing loud, but it remains the same in cart P220. However, it is more exciting models, the ignition is fine spirit Need. This may be because many have been coordinated with, and I thought I'd need a yell fire more than once a day. In this case also, I stopped feeling strangely tired and I thought one more moment. If I show you a blazing Yoroshikatta 17 full magazines really were entrusted. Continuous firing it gives the full equivalent stress model. Has been frequently reported in this model is broken barrel base. I myself, HW will be broken, so once for each slide and barrel, inevitably forced to care. First of all, to return to the original owner who, with the highest priority of moving you to experience the full auto. And he, at this stage ignition Itadakimashita pulled up. Another point to it. Actually, from another like-minded people, G18 is established we'll talk transfer it at a low price. Therefore, a full-scale model is going to fire me. To be temporarily damaged, yet wake up more of my models would be good ^ ^ The shout apology in this regard. Recently, on the bulletin board "of buying a model from the shop," but to every Ajitsu with this apology also ran a dry tongue root private sale. USP Oh, really well. Even though I find the model shop have stock, embarrassing story. I'm sorry m Added original version Glock 18 barrel 2003.1.19 Immediately after the last report, for myself and got a G18. The long barrel that comes with the original type. However, the frame for the G17 (ABS made) is a pattern. Perhaps the first people who have bought (I think third) will be sorted. If you care about may be a collector, I aimed fire only. If it works, but that does not care Content adjustment as before, add spring around the barrel. Also, it is a solid issue, since the return of the trigger in semi-bad, a small adjustment in this area. Seemed to be a little bent because the bar was triggered. The striking force was so much interest as a weak striker Otomachikkuseifuti function effectively killed just in case. I still occasionally misfire occurs, this is no specification as to give up now. Ditoneta the washer to the spacer thickness of less than 1 millimeter, to accept the original. Will be just 43 millimeters in length and little will. Minutes using the cart P220, except for the occasional dud so far, no problems have occurred. Add the spring around the barrel is not all original springs. Use the silver caps cart P220. We used a new one. Three movies. Even though still a blink The first six of fire (?), 8 followed by automatic fire is blazing the last 15. That, no doubt you really 15 because of fire, and I'm really a blink The first two are forced to because the two were from a misfire occurs in the middle. Third, does not hold open end, this is the final bullet into an empty cart on purpose, so it does not work because the slide stop. For around a barrel added to the Springfield, wears too much tension when the slide back, hurt rather part of the operation side notch to operate the slide stop and slide. I think that with the open operation and perfect hold, so no harm is also important to say what model, this point was a compromise As you can see the working conditions. The drawback is the occasional misfire, except that top form! 15 When the blaze was especially excited! I mentioned to be honest, a little freaked violently in the hands of violent model After the fire, parts decomposition, we will carefully check the base of the barrel, particularly at ease, especially without any sign of damage. Furuotomoderu of the Hand-Held Dolphin, M712, M93R (improved), and this is owned by four models and G18. Each has a personality can enjoy, as if looking for a model that can be easily ignited or dolphin would M93R. If the M712 apart from the metal model, the plastic is pretty hard nut to crack. The G18 is still this may be painful, adding reborn in the spring. M712, except it may be difficult to get it, popped in the excitement of dancing Furuotohandogan hand, I would like to taste all means. Finally, additional proposals were considered to spring around the barrel, "says Katsura" and "G17" friends. Thank you. I like this method is the best way. It worked thanks. Also added at low cost ○ ○ willing to transfer it to us a valuable model. Thank you. Here, you'll put your name because you feel violates that will be humbled, thanks kindly. Thank you for the thanks. Thank you again for this occasion. 2003.2.1 Supplemental Categories On the boards, "says Rio," from, by extending the Barerufidoranpu, I had better tell that even when the original feeding. I've ask you to provide more information we will introduce it immediately received a picture. The material is said to Puraripea. "Rio's" Thank you. _________________ Cerwyn
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| Tanaka H & K USP
Abstract Three plastic handgun Tanaka sent into the world (four if you count the Glock 18) in the final model. The realism, while highly praised work of the problem was pointed out, both durable P226. Glock 17, then tears into the performance and durability while firing superdreadnought pride. Based on previous experience, they are Moderuganrashi (realism, balance of agonistic and durability) was implemented widely, at a high level is a large handgun and the prestigious masterpiece model. ABS body, made of changing the color of the frame but slides and produce good atmosphere, a real gun. There is so thick, durable slides pretty well. Safety features characteristic of tears, are quite nicely reproduced. The metal is also different parts of the barrel, Chanbakaba scars are represented in the equipment will be cutting it real Chibiri ^ ^. Lighter than I expected movement of the slide.・・・Strong movement of the hammer, Huh? What, Pechitsu, Pechitsu? ・・・Only movement of the hammer so much against the over feel like pale in a little ^ ^. I mean playing a little, a little disappointing that there is a wobble. But, convinced will do the best that is loose and the clearance bet. Tanaka used a unique cart Miriparakato 9. 5 mm, using a Haipawakato cap. However, other companies may also be used if you adjust your Miririarukato Dito 9. Notoriety in the literature, I know I've never heard of this model. You are to speak of "excellent", "top form!" "Masterpiece!" Biggest and only compliment. Before, where there is no anguish to Orimashita edge I was eager to finally get in, get your like-minded thanks to your help. (^.^) Dance dancing after a while [Dito] coordination Actually, I do not like the original Parakato.'s Power is strong, I'd like Masu Sugi strong. Also, the CP is common specifications cart system cap, O-5 mm less durable, will ring out immediately. Besides, complicated set. Put powder into it to plug it into metal, a good effort and put together a cart or rather, good maintenance after the fire, the other CP and PFC slower times more than. So, consider the diversion of Miririarukato Orimashita nine other companies from entering the front. The time required to adjust its length, Dito. Well, I was sure I kind of try to work・・・also kind. Indeed, previous probes "LX added" The MGC 9mm real CP of coordination had to be remembered-cart, "absorbing," Lucky and immediately Contact. "Hey, hey, the real USP for Dito, tell the size of the CP. Because anything" "Yoshi Yoshi, they'll love him.進Zeyou I know. Come on, this Slippage more soon. Come on, Come on. Fuotsu, Fuotsu, Fuotsu" "A level - what you like, like, a magistrate - us.・・・Us an intellectual. Ahitsu" While a credit card or how ares, access to information Network of this kind of mania when convenient. Will come in handy. According to the report, you, the overall length is 37 mm from the tip of the thickness of 12.3 mm to 4 mm in diameter, the rest end up on the 24.3 mm thickness 5.5 mm in diameter. In the end, and that to keep feeding the cone cart to assist. Size, even after it decided that the other is completed. It is also so, what parts are generally hard to determine the size, unless things greatly, if only it turns out, cut, pasted cut or completed in盛Tta. Dito based in Marushin M712 determined for the first. 0 5 mm and 5 mm thick, somewhat short・5 mm inner diameter, 5.5 mm brass pipe (they sell the store model) in it can be cleared to throw. The total length is too long, cut from the tip. Of course, not every last minute, try a little room to adjust the final stages of finishing. Then, cut the pipe and brass. As also referring to its cut out the time, length adjustment in the finish. In just because it hard a little, then resizing only as rough with sand and the surface of the Dito, adhesives for metals Push on the coated pipe. After that, enters into the cut where the fixing screws Dito. Tamotsu Amane is put over the cut, because that would have been divided around the pipe, leave it only partially. When the barrel is set to set, you careful enough by around them. I thought I 、 PFC use by the end of the cart, but I've put a round Dito, CP will use only those that will not get nervous. Dito completed in less than an hour. Costs 500 yen or so. Really easy! [Trouble] Feeding was completed at check Dito. First, PFC cart full second manual check. Then CP. No problem either. Also, make sure to set the air cap, the cap at the loading position on the chamber, but when the percussion cap and locate the problems, that too. With joy, thinking, "Kekeke" and laughter. Wrists twice, three times and頬擦Ri (Please note that in public because it is confusing.) However, "Oh Ok, Well fire!" Was fired and courage. Huh? Something funny (・・? Harrow - I! Are broken trigger Kiri points around the base just right. While wondering why, and try to disassemble, Ugetsu! Rikoirusupuringugaido are broken Shock! I do not know what we got this, the impact of the fire damage to the guide for any reason there is trouble, it might be influenced by the trigger. At this rate of going nowhere anyway, I gave up fire. Order the parts through the shop, and rest for a while. [Fire] Over one month after ordering the parts.Kogitsukemashita to finally fire somehow. Using the real cart mm 9 CP. Then travel back early, just beat the record because it is a magazine in a short time is not family. Five from each of the three cuts. Eject the last round of failure. Models that ignore the final cut, please . There is no movement of the slide so fast. Is apparently thrown from the Glock. Parakato not original, but maybe a little faster. CP in power, the body still has the impression that you can afford. Parakato do not like the set is cumbersome, but could you get better. By the way, seems to use the Glock SIG226 is exactly the same cart, USP as the anvil (primer) in different sizes so, it is not compatible. If you have a cart parts from Tanaka and even now, I think you try to order now. However, it is a good model! - Nonsense, repetition; Both the total production volume of 300 Street, which is said to be rare model丁To 500. How bad were washed away when the waves came into the world of the boom, when the air gun sales, leaving Sashitaru (sold) imperceptibly discontinued. It is said to become a model system an opportunity to withdraw from the Otomachikkuhandogan Tanaka. If the model of the world, the world, so I must have hit・・・. The street became known for its high performance but is sometimes too late. Ironically, it is now quite expensive and are trading at such auction. Too late. If you sell more, this is a model of a Hand-Held Tanaka after this wonderful model, manufacturers are not up anywhere, it might be my Shiremase attractive model to develop I. A model like this will be our responsibility. One of the manufacturers with technology and product development is magnificent and I missed the Muzamuza. But if I may say so, and you might have been better taken into account in the choice of model is another. Indeed P226, Glock, USP, is a model of the first of its kind, just as a fan is a great blessing. However, little action was strong. Because it is the preferred gun of modern style features, yada, secondary and purposes, and we should put the results to select a model that could become something different a little sex appeal. For example if you were a S & W Model 、 Auto. If S & W Auto Parts, a model of base-line, through the second air gun, then there would have been familiar to fans as such. 、 Fact that S & W Auto who want the ultimate good is heard. Also, plenty of variation in the real gun. Even if the base model underlying the design exactly as governor, in deployment, not a lesser variation is relatively easy after (require less capital investment), should be. More than a layman's view, trademarks, etc. I think that manufacturers had variously circumstances. Just as the USP, Glock, was impressed by the performance of S & W Mateba Kono Tsutomu Haikyapagaba, auto, and MP5 (series expansion is possible, too) and I only hope that the development Itadaketara. Add 2003.3.1 CP made by the previous fire. This is the firing of PFC. Say that the current real 9mm PFC power many times inferior to the CP. SP USP recoil was confident enough to work fine if you will. The test firing, Fidingutoraburu is none. Hold an open fire even after the successful final bullet was also eject the cart. The feeling is better than CP. Looking from behind, fire from the muzzle was also raised. Absorbing fun CP but this does not Naka Naka, PFC remains in the phenomenon. In the case of CP, but is disturbed greatly by the jet of gas that comes out when the inner face of gas from the gas cart, PFC when the gas is ejected from the center of the cap, can disrupt the jet reached without much muzzle What is to blame for that. Prop feeling a little (^ ^) v. Suitably connected in the movie. Perhaps feeling a little wet gunpowder had been raining. Is a bit disappointing because there was a misfire from about 2, the overall tone is good. CP flame from the muzzle fire than flashy but the sound is small. I like it (laughs). However, HW more pleasant it would slide. It is a shame. 2003.5.2 note issues, entitled "Report of the middle pillar of fire" Got broken ! While they make a noise every tough but durable, got corrupted so (sob). I think that the situation must understand if you look at the image base is damaged barrel, what a lift is divided chamber slides for that. Frequent symptoms are similar to those in the Glock. The realists are displaced because Chanbakaba adhered to, and this is not due to. Using the original Parakato cart. I think I fear is still Parakato be too strong. CP and PFC in these symptoms but have a feeling that come out. Fortunately in my case, have purchased a spare barrel already. Since no force is applied where the normal state, it is also terribly slide acrylic casting in the gap Sunday, so much harm that can be used to paint Naose not without problems. Well, just surprised. If you display school anyway, how to adjust the ignition pro Dito CP PFC may be good or be entertained by fire. Since the sign of a high incidence of corruption Fidingutoraburu, then you'd better check. The barrel but no, the slide will be able to prevent corruption. Human sacrifice was a report from a middle-aged fire. Additional 2003.5.24 Movie "Tomb Raider" Angelina Jolie has starred in use by USP. Competition style front stabilizer (?) Appears with really good they are set (By the way, your good also suitable Angelina toots!). "Hey I want OIRA also" had thought (By the way, Angelina toots you want more ), This stabilizer, so I have not quite dressed Complex custom. But "K's" When I saw the site, there is something you have not set an air gun stabilizer very similar. "Oh, Arujan! Bye, buy it goin Come on port" So I bought that. USP Tanaka, and try to set the size of the batch. However, the drawback of becoming lazy and put this decomposition. After the extension of the barrel. At first, I tried to corrupt USP extended cut of the barrel, insert abandoned to be out. I do, the air gun barrel was in the junk box (unidentified) found. So this guy inner barrel (aluminum) into an incision vertically, USP work to clear inserts. Periphery and a little narrower, USP into a clean barrel押Shi込Ndara. However, about 1 cm is too long, for the moment was fair game. Came second, so pretty, not fixed in any way I probably would not worry, as it is fired. Long barrel, and firing sounds for narrowing the inner diameter is smaller than it had no problems. Barrels remain firmly extended. Absorbing fun (^ ^). Was opened and held, has become like in easily. If completeness, and also it is necessary to paint for fun anyway and truncation of the barrel. If you have to do with the time, recording a movie once. I've used a gold cap mm 9 CP. 5 rapid-fire cutting. The final bullet to eject failed, it does not care 9 CP millimeters so that it is the habit of giving up when using this model. The slides are the last to accept the things damaged. Since the operation a few cracks and no effect can be fired safely. Hey, if you say that Angelina is beside her, but this is not the only next to the Gnat Puni. Well, I've got left・・・life. _________________ Cerwyn
Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria. also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.
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