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Lukara
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PostSubject: WTB KSC P230 SL   WTB KSC P230 SL Icon_minitimeWed Feb 08, 2012 9:18 am

Ok, I know I am desperate when I am offering $200 for a P230.
I've been searching for about a year to no avail.....
I am praying that someone somewhere is willing to sell theirs...
I'll pay as high as $300 if I must for a pristine condition KSC P230 SL...
Oh... And PayPal probably.
Oh, and the box, magazine, manual, and the gun would be nice Very Happy
I've searched everywhere... No one has a KSC P230 SL FOR SALE........
I'll even settle for a P232SL
(however that rounded grip... I'm not sure how that would work for me....)

My biggest hope is the KSC P230 SL Model T.
I just don't want to give up hope to own a Sig Sauer.
even if it is a KSC...


Note to admin: sorry if this is not a proper request/post for this site.
Don't get me wrong, I love model guns.


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Cerwyn
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PostSubject: Re: WTB KSC P230 SL   WTB KSC P230 SL Icon_minitimeWed Feb 08, 2012 10:18 am

Hello Lukara, welcome to the Forum Very Happy

No need to apologise for your post, it's perfectly OK, several requests are posted for particular modelguns or GBB Airsoft guns. I hope you can find one Exclamation

Places to try would be www.franckys-modelgun.com

and www.plugfirecapgunsuk.com

unless one of our members has one to sell privately Wink

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PostSubject: Re: WTB KSC P230 SL   WTB KSC P230 SL Icon_minitimeWed Feb 08, 2012 10:28 am

Thank you for you support.
I love guns, but I hate what people use them for....
That's why I like airsoft, its rather difficult to inflict traumatic damage with an Airsoft.
But I've been into, but unable to purchase/collect, model guns ever since I was a kid.
So, thank you again for allowing me to stay.
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PostSubject: Re: WTB KSC P230 SL   WTB KSC P230 SL Icon_minitimeWed Feb 08, 2012 10:56 am

You are very welcome Lukara Very Happy . There are three or four members from Hawaii now so you are not alone there Wink

Modelguns, i.e. cap-firing, shell ejecting models, are available in Hawaii but I'm not certain how Laws there apply to buying and owning them. Are there age restrictions for example Question With some luck you'll now be able to find, and buy your Sig. I'm certain there'll be plenty of help for you here should you need anything at all Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: WTB KSC P230 SL   WTB KSC P230 SL Icon_minitimeFri Feb 10, 2012 7:13 pm

Okay... here's what I'll offer:
KSC P230SL [if it's the P230SL Model T, add an extra 25USD]
Gun only [Poor condition]: 100USD
Gun only [Superb/mint condition]: 160USD
Gun and Mag [Poor Cond.]: 130USD
Gun and Mag [Mint]: 200USD
Gun, Mag, Box [Poor]: 150USD
Gun, Mag, Box [Mint]: 210USD
Gun, Mag, Manual [Poor]: 190USD
Gun, Mag, Manual [Mint]: 220USD
Gun, Mag, Manual, Box [Poor]: 200USD
Gun, Mag, Manual, Box [Mint]: 240USD
KSC P230SL Model T (Gun, Mag, Manual, Box) [Mint]: 300-325USD

Or, make me an offer Very Happy
The worst I'll do is accept your offer.

PM me here.


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PostSubject: Re: WTB KSC P230 SL   WTB KSC P230 SL Icon_minitimeMon Feb 13, 2012 3:26 am

Here's my problem..
I've been to just about every single site in which I could possibly buy one, because I have seen both the P230SL and Model T for sale or auction, however they are all JAPANESE sites, and DOMESTIC shipping only....

Why is that?
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PostSubject: Re: WTB KSC P230 SL   WTB KSC P230 SL Icon_minitimeMon Feb 13, 2012 10:48 am

It's possibly something to do with Japanese Customs and the fact many Countries worldwide don't allow replica guns accross their borders these days. It's less hassle for smaller shops and private sellers to keep their sales limited to Home sales only.

If the P230 you're after is available in Japan then I'd suggest to contact Francky in Tokyo

www.franckys-modelgun.com who could get you one OR

John at www.plugfirecapgunsuk.com who deals with Japanese wholesalers. He could probably get you one and ship it to you in Hawaii

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PostSubject: Re: WTB KSC P230 SL   WTB KSC P230 SL Icon_minitimeMon Feb 13, 2012 5:13 pm

Cerwyn wrote:
It's possibly something to do with Japanese Customs and the fact many Countries worldwide don't allow replica guns accross their borders these days. It's less hassle for smaller shops and private sellers to keep their sales limited to Home sales only.

If the P230 you're after is available in Japan then I'd suggest to contact Francky in Tokyo

Francky ----- who could get you one OR

John at ----- who deals with Japanese wholesalers. He could probably get you one and ship it to you in Hawaii

Japanese Customs huh? That makes more sense.
I don't know why countries are so paranoid about model- and replica-guns.....
I've emailed both Francky last friday and John last saturday, So I am hoping to get a reply some time this week...
Thankyou for your neverending support and help Cerwyn.
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PostSubject: Re: WTB KSC P230 SL   WTB KSC P230 SL Icon_minitimeMon Feb 13, 2012 6:53 pm

Lukara wrote:

I don't know why countries are so paranoid about model- and replica-guns.....
Because laws differ from country to country, and not every country allows models/replicas. It's not countries in any case, but people handling packages in Post or courier company, as well as in Customs.

This is a problem for the seller - he ships out a model/replica, it gets confiscated at the border of buyer's country. Then the buyer complains it is lost, cancels payment and causes loss of money and model to the seller. That's why few shops (except for specialized ones) do export of models.

As you can see this is less about being paranoid, more about minimizing risk for parties involved.
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PostSubject: Re: WTB KSC P230 SL   WTB KSC P230 SL Icon_minitimeMon Feb 13, 2012 7:04 pm

smootik wrote:
it gets confiscated at the border of buyer's country. Then the buyer complains it is lost.
I see! Well, wouldn't that be the buyer's fault for not looking into their import/shipping prohibits?
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PostSubject: Re: WTB KSC P230 SL   WTB KSC P230 SL Icon_minitimeMon Feb 13, 2012 7:27 pm

In an ideal world - yes.
In reality - buyers don't bother to check law/import requirements, and more often than not blame the seller. Not only when confiscation happens, but also when duties/tax have to be paid...
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PostSubject: Re: WTB KSC P230 SL   WTB KSC P230 SL Icon_minitimeTue Feb 14, 2012 10:38 am

Courier companies are known to scan parcels at point of Export too, if that particular Courier prohibits shipping replicas they'll sieze the package and will not return to sender or compensate either.

It is, unfortunately, a major issue these days.

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PostSubject: On Hold   WTB KSC P230 SL Icon_minitimeWed Feb 15, 2012 8:14 pm

SO For now, I'll await John's finds.
I want to take each route individually so I won't end up wasting someone's time...
I'd rather deal with one person at a time, than have 3 people saying they have one for me at the same time.

Note to Admin: Sound good, Cerwyn? Also, I don't know how I can thank you enough for your constant support.
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PostSubject: I'm back   WTB KSC P230 SL Icon_minitimeFri May 03, 2013 10:16 pm

I'm back and still looking now that I have a steady income!
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PostSubject: Re: WTB KSC P230 SL   WTB KSC P230 SL Icon_minitimeSat May 04, 2013 6:10 pm

Den trinity have
http://www.dentrinityshop.com/pr_list.jsp?cid=COL_MS&bid=KSC

KSC P230 JP Model Gun Heavy Weight -$253,
KSC P230 Model Gun Black (S230)
hope that helps
Huw
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