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PostSubject: Help identify version MGC MP40   Help identify version MGC MP40 Icon_minitimeFri Dec 20, 2013 8:23 pm

Hi from Italy, I send  pictures of my MGC MP40 recently purchased.
I do not know much about this because in Italy it is not widespread.
Can you tell me if everything is ok and if it is a version firing blank cartridges or non firing?
Thanks and Merry Christmas

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PostSubject: Re: Help identify version MGC MP40   Help identify version MGC MP40 Icon_minitimeSat Dec 21, 2013 11:11 am

Hello leo, welcome to the Forum !

You have a really nice example of an early type cap firing cartridge MGC68 MP40. The Zinc bolt appears to be in excellent condition. There is no real sign of wear so your model may not have fired may cartridges at all.
The Detonator Pin (photo # 23) is the original "old" type. Cartridges for this type are no longer available BUT new pins are available which can be fitted. The new pin will enable the model gun to use MGC P220 cartridges and 7mm caps without further modification.

Please note this is NOT a Blank Firing gun. Attempts to fire 9mm Blanks will very likely cause severe damage and probable serious injury to the user.

Correct type cartridges such as MGC P220 CP-HW and the correct caps will be perfectly safe and very enjoyable.
If you have any more questions, please do not hesitate to ask

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PostSubject: Re: Help identify version MGC MP40   Help identify version MGC MP40 Icon_minitimeSat Dec 21, 2013 1:10 pm

Hello Cerwyn , thank you for the quick reply and the good news.
Unfortunately I’ve found that the charger of my mgc68 mp40 is not original but it is a real mp40 disabled and unusable.
Can you link me a European seller who has the compatible charger, the detonator pin and suitable cartdrigest MGC P220 CP-HW and the correct caps?
It’s also ok an U.S.A seller that could be able to shipping to Italy.

Sorry for my bad english
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PostSubject: Re: Help identify version MGC MP40   Help identify version MGC MP40 Icon_minitimeSat Dec 21, 2013 1:59 pm

Hi Leo,

Your English is fine, don't worry about that  Very Happy 

Just to clarify, which part are you referring to as the Charger please? Are you referring to the Bolt assembly in photos #18 - #22?
These photos appear to be the zinc bolt, with steel 2 part telescopic recoil tubes as fitted to the MGC68 MP40s.  
If so, it will operate perfectly in this model. Unlike real MP40s, the modelguns do not have a Firing Pin through the bolt. The handle used to pull the bolt back to cocked position is cast as one piece with the bolt. Unlike the real gun (and Marushin's model MP40) the handle does not move to operate as the Safety switch.

There are three Dealers here in the UK that should be able to supply you with caps, cartridges and suitable Detonator Pins. Genuine MGC parts can be very difficult to find these days but these Dealers should be able to make or obtain new pattern items.



Some parts can, occasionally, be available from other Forum members. It is always worth posting requests in our Buy / Sell category.

Please let me know regarding the Charger ?

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PostSubject: Re: Help identify version MGC MP40   Help identify version MGC MP40 Icon_minitimeSat Dec 21, 2013 2:19 pm

Hi Cerwyn,sorry, Im refering to magazine for cartridges.

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PostSubject: Re: Help identify version MGC MP40   Help identify version MGC MP40 Icon_minitimeSat Dec 21, 2013 4:01 pm

Hi Leo

No problem  Very Happy 

An MGC MP40 magazine may be difficult to source but it is worth contacting the 3 dealers above.
Some MGC MP40s will accept Vigneron magazines without any modification to the magazine well. Not all will, my own MGC68 '40 would require enlarging the well for example.

How has your magazine been disabled please?

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PostSubject: Re: Help identify version MGC MP40   Help identify version MGC MP40 Icon_minitimeSat Dec 21, 2013 5:19 pm

Hi Cerwyn,
cut and weld.

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PostSubject: Re: Help identify version MGC MP40   Help identify version MGC MP40 Icon_minitimeSun Dec 22, 2013 8:55 am

Hi Leo

Someone made really sure that magazine would never work again  No  Exclamation 

You will obviously need a new magazine. All I can suggest at the moment is that you contact the three UK dealers I mentioned above to see if they can source one for you.
It would be worthwhile posting a "Wanted" advert in our BUY/SELL category too.

Marushin's MP40 magazines are more readily available but can be a loose fit in the MGC magazine well. It may, nevertheless, be possible to adapt to fit and operate.

If you can find a Vigneron magazine that fits, it's possible to adapt them to suit modelguns by shortening the spring and slightly modifying the feed lips.

I'm certain we can help you to get your MGC MP40 firing as it should  Very Happy 

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PostSubject: Re: Help identify version MGC MP40   Help identify version MGC MP40 Icon_minitimeSun Dec 22, 2013 10:14 am

Hi Cerwyn,
thank you so much.
i will contact the seller next to the holiday , now they are closed.
i'm going to follow your suggestion and i will put announce on the BUY/SELL category.

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PostSubject: Re: Help identify version MGC MP40   Help identify version MGC MP40 Icon_minitimeSun Dec 22, 2013 10:27 am

It is my pleasure Leo  Very Happy 

The Forum is here to give you as much help as possible to enjoy your modelgun.

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PostSubject: Re: Help identify version MGC MP40   Help identify version MGC MP40 Icon_minitimeSun Dec 22, 2013 1:23 pm

I would just like to make a small comment if I may.

I love the look of it in the first photo, and I would not do a thing to try to make it look newer. "Patina" seems to be the word used these days. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Help identify version MGC MP40   Help identify version MGC MP40 Icon_minitimeSun Dec 22, 2013 4:49 pm

Me too like “patina”  Very Happy 

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