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Cerwyn
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PostSubject: Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face   Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face Icon_minitimeThu Aug 03, 2017 5:33 pm

My Hudson STEN's zinc bolt face wore out, as zinc is prone to do, so 8ace made me this very neat'n'tidy Steel replacement-


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PostSubject: Re: Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face   Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face Icon_minitimeFri Aug 04, 2017 11:23 am

As always with 8ace its brilliant work. I get all my zinc bolts adapted with a steel bolt face.
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PostSubject: Re: Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face   Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face Icon_minitimeFri Aug 04, 2017 1:56 pm

Claymore,

How the steel face attached to a zinc body? I assume it is not glued....

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PostSubject: Re: Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face   Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face Icon_minitimeFri Aug 04, 2017 2:36 pm

Shazhib,


I believe the steel bolt face is pinned / screwed into the zinc bolt body.


Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face   Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face Icon_minitimeFri Aug 04, 2017 7:21 pm

Shaz, i think cerwyn is correct but 8ace can advise better on that. I have had the zinc bolt face done for some models as its only the bolt face that gets destroyed the rest of the bolt holds up well, so for those bolts that you can do this type of modification on its worth it but some models dont have enough material to do this and so a full steel bolt is needed.


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PostSubject: Re: Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face   Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face Icon_minitimeSat Aug 05, 2017 10:10 am

It's a much easier repair than a complete replacement bolt.

The metal face is screwed onto the existing zinc bolt together with metal epoxy used to fill any gaps and stop anything coming loose.

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PostSubject: Re: Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face   Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face Icon_minitimeMon Feb 08, 2021 12:28 pm

Cerwyn wrote:
My Hudson STEN's zinc bolt face wore out, as zinc is prone to do, so 8ace made me this very neat'n'tidy Steel replacement-


Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face Hudson31  


Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face Hudson32


Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face Hudson34


Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face Hudson33

Hi Cerwyn,

I'm looking for the dimensions of a Sten Modelgun recoil spring.
Could you help me with the following dimensions:
- Length of the spring (uncompressed state)
- Inner diameter of the spring
- Spring wire thickness
- Pitch
- Number of coils

Many thanks in advance!
Best regards
Gecko
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PostSubject: Re: Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face   Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face Icon_minitimeMon Feb 08, 2021 3:22 pm

Hi Gecko,


Are you after the Hudson or MGC version please?

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PostSubject: Re: Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face   Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face Icon_minitimeMon Feb 08, 2021 4:50 pm

Cerwyn wrote:
Hi Gecko,


Are you after the Hudson or MGC version please?

It doesn't matter - as long as you could then tell me what the respective bolt weighs.
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Gecko wrote:
Cerwyn wrote:
Hi Gecko,


Are you after the Hudson or MGC version please?

It doesn't matter - as long as you could then tell me what the respective bolt weighs.

OK Gecko, I'll get back to you asap 

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PostSubject: Re: Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face   Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face Icon_minitimeFri Feb 12, 2021 4:11 pm

Hi Gecko,


Dimensions taken from my MGC STEN MkIII


Overall free length 270mm
Outside Dia: 20mm
Wire Dia: 1.51mm
Coils per inch (25.4mm) 2
Total Coils per full length 21


Weight of Bolt assembly including Charging handle 436g

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PostSubject: Re: Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face   Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face Icon_minitimeWed Feb 17, 2021 2:54 pm

Cerwyn wrote:
Hi Gecko,


Dimensions taken from my MGC STEN MkIII


Overall free length 270mm
Outside Dia: 20mm
Wire Dia: 1.51mm
Coils per inch (25.4mm) 2
Total Coils per full length 21


Weight of Bolt assembly including Charging handle 436g

Cerwyn,

many thanks for your feedback and your efforts - that will help me a lot.
Question: Is the MGC Sten bolt made of metal or plastic? What kind of blow back cartridges are ouse in that model - PFC or open cartridges?

Best regards
Gecko
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PostSubject: Re: Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face   Hudson STEN MkII - Custom Steel Bolt Face Icon_minitimeWed Feb 17, 2021 3:49 pm

Gecko wrote:
Cerwyn wrote:
Hi Gecko,


Dimensions taken from my MGC STEN MkIII


Overall free length 270mm
Outside Dia: 20mm
Wire Dia: 1.51mm
Coils per inch (25.4mm) 2
Total Coils per full length 21


Weight of Bolt assembly including Charging handle 436g

Cerwyn,

many thanks for your feedback and your efforts - that will help me a lot.
Question: Is the MGC Sten bolt made of metal or plastic? What kind of blow back cartridges are ouse in that model - PFC or open cartridges?

Best regards
Gecko
Hi Gecko,


No problem, it's my pleasure to help.


The MGC STEN bolts are cast Zinc Alloy, (Zamac)
They were designed to use Open cartridges with paper caps originally. Most, probably all by now, of the firing models have been converted to use PFC type cartridges. Most popular being MGC P220 (CP-HW) or KSC 9mm Luger (CP-HW)

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