Value Enquiry... Hudson AK47S

Post by Pydracor

Hi there,

not sure, if this is the right category, I didn't want to post it in the Buy/Sell Section right away, as I have not met my decision yet. I hope, that's not a problem.

As almost anyone who thinks about selling any items of his/her hobby, I'm in need of some cash and thought about selling my Hudson AK47S. According to this Thread: http://mp40modelguns.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?t=1174 it probably is the second version of their Kalaschnikow, modelguncollector.co.uk, where I bought the gun, also told me, that it was manufactured in the early 80's. They also told me, that the previous owner achieved the look of this AK by artificially aging it. I'm not sure about that, given that it's over 20 years old, it could just as well be "normal" aging. Whatever it is, the gun looks extremely realistic and used. The internals on the other hand are in very good condition, this AK has hardly ever been fired.
The folding stock is brand new and was ordered from Hudson right before I bought the gun.
It comes with only 3 cartridges (they use 1 x 7mm + 1 x 5mm + orange O-ring), but as most of you guys probably know, it could just as well come with none, as it's almost impossible to make the AK perform well with it's original cartridges.
There's a tiny bit of zinc broken off, see picture.
Also I started to file away the muzzle to make a real steel bajonet fit (NOT the one on the pictures, that one is for the AK47 after 1959, I have an old version for the AK's before that date, which is not shown on the fotos), ericthecat has done the same in this thread: http://mp40modelguns.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?t=1713&postdays=0&postorder=asc&vote=viewresult

So, my question is: How much could I ask for the Hudson AK47S + 3 Cartridges + 2 magazines + 10 dummy rounds + real steel bajonet?
I have not yet decided if I sell it or not, it will depend on how much I can get for it.
Thanks in advance for any help!

Post by MadMike

Well that is very hard to say. Bear in mind that those Hudson AK models don´t fire reliable, so it is more a display item, but a great one. Another problem is to find suitable carts. And collectors in Germany can get rather cheap real AK deacts, so I think it won´t sell too easy on the German market. Foreign buyers may be hampered by the VCR Act (Great Britain) or custom issues. I would recommend to keep it, instead selling it for a cheap price, regretting it later.

Post by Pydracor

Yeah, that's what I suspected... I was kinda disappointed by it's bad firing performance, had I known that before, I would have gone for a deact (for less than half the price I payed for this Hudson model ).

Ah well, maybe someone's interested anyway (someone from the US perhaps), or maybe I will try my luck on egun, though their auction fees are pretty high, otherwise I will have to sell something else.

Post by erikthecat

STOP!

oh NO! someone is having a POP at the the not so might H!
lets face it MOST model guns suffer from the same NOT SO consistent firing problem:)
and the title 'model gun', just sums it up fine:)

you could always put it up for sale ...
'SERIOUS OFFERS ONLY contact me off list'
and just see what happens.

it looks to have been 'aged' in my opinion.
even though it maybe 20 years old?
when kids could play with toy guns with out fear of an armed response team showing up! (God what has this country become, DON'T answer that! it would have taken some serious play fighting to have worn to that degree.
i wonder how the ageing was done, just abrade the paint?
that's what i was considering doing to mine,
i'm not so sure now:)

thanks for posting the images, good to see another vintage H!

Good luck.

Nice piano!

regards,

GaRy:)
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Maruschin XM177E2 kit PFC, non functioning obviously.

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Post by Mark

Sadly, the Hudson AK is one of the most fascinating modelguns that has been produced by any manufacturer that has failed miserably to work as billed. Now, try not to confuse the earlier Hudson AK from the last version: the AK47 SE version The SE version does work! Hudson changed tons of details on the SE version of their AK and although they are expensive they are actually worth buying. Now, the same cannot be said of the earlier versions up to the SE type. There are still buyers for the Hudson AK's here in the U.S. despite their bad performance. The Hudson AK (with the exception of the SE version) is indeed a wall hanger that will at least look the part.
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MGC MP40 Marushin MP40 Nakata MP40 TRC MP40

Modelgun manufacturers, past and present:CMC,CAW,Hudson,HWS,LS,MGC(R.I.P. 1960's~2007) Marushin,Marui,Kokusai,Shoei,Tanaka and Western Arms

Post by shazhib

You know what, I fired my AK47SE.
Result was not execellent out of box, but lot better than the older version I assume. Few problems with SE version is:

- miss-fire
I don't know why this happened so often, but maybe due to dual 5mm cap, absorbing bit of striking force

- miss-feeding
Needless to say, AK47 is a rifle so to use long rounds. In order to retain certain travel distance of inner piston, I found it a detonator necessary be fairly long in lenghth comparison with those used for the SMGs. Rounds sometime stuck not having detonator properly been inserted, but hitting the edge of rounds head.

If you looking for something working good out of box, then, AK47 is still not the one for you.

I think I may buy a spare detonator from Hudson and try to make it shorteer. But the, I need to insert some kind of "spacer" inside a rounds in order detonator to reach the Caps.

Regards,

P.S. I see SE version very rarely on an auction now.