Hobby Fix M4A1

Post by KILLERHEAT

HI,

THE HOBBY FIX M4A1 SO MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE MGC M4A1 IS IT JUST THE FULL METAL

HOBBY FIX M4A1: 2460 US
MGC M4A1: 340 US


ANYONE GOT ANY INFO PLEASE
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Post by Mark

The Hobby Fix M4 is about the closest that you can get to the real M4. The full metal construction of the Hobby Fix M4 is a big difference as well as the HF is also a "dummy" not a CP or PFC modelgun. All of the HF gun line is extremely expensive. As many details from the real M4 as possible on a legal modelgun are replicated on the HF M4 and you pay for those details.
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Post by MadMike

Well this was produced on a limited scale, before MGC offered their M4A1. They also made a M16A4. Despite the high price the models were sold out rather quickly. Sadly it is very hard to get good informtion about these models, but they are said to be very detailed, especially the bolt design. And they are full metal. But bear in mind that these are dummy models, using dummy carts. They can be cycled manually, but they can´t "fire" using caps and blowback.
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Post by KILLERHEAT

THANKS FOR THE INFO VERY HELPFUL
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Post by MadMike

Here are pictures of the HF M4A1. I got them from MGCUK in the past.






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Post by 2Sharp

I found a few on the net some years ago, saved the pics.



















Hope i got'em right, and not the same pic twice??

Looks really nice... i want one
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Post by MadMike


Wow, these are impressing, really impressing. You´d say it is a real one. How come it took you so long to post them? I am on the hunt for such pictures for over two years and you just hid them on your harddrive ...

It really puts me down that I can´t have one.

MadMike out.
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Post by 2Sharp

MadMike wrote:

Wow, these are impressing, really impressing. You´d say it is a real one. How come it took you so long to post them? I am on the hunt for such pictures for over two years and you just hid them on your harddrive ...
It really puts me down that I can´t have one.
MadMike out.

Sorry man, i really haven't thought about, i haven't used my own computer for over a year as it haven't been connected to the 'net.
Oh, btw, i can't recall where i got these pics, so if anyone feels they don't belong here let me know and i'll edit my post.

Post by Mark

2Sharp wrote:

Oh, btw, i can't recall where i got these pics, so if anyone feels they don't belong here let me know and i'll edit my post.

No need to do that! They are exactly what we wanted to see..Thanks for posting them!
It really is a shame that the HF M4 is so expensive as they could sell allot more than they have in the past. I like that they have a correct bolt face with the real extractor and ejector.

Post by figaro

That is a fine replica, really spot on.
Doesn't make much sense to spend that much here in the US on a replica of that particular rifle (if you can live with a semi version).
But an awesome replica none the less, thanks for the pics guys.
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Post by 2Sharp

mark wrote:

I like that they have a correct bolt face with the real extractor and ejector.

I agree, it does look a bit funky though, as it doesn't have an opening for the firing pin, just a flat boltface.
Would love to handle one and see if it it as well made as it looks

Post by gavin



how are these legal being full metal

Post by MadMike

Must be because they are not hand guns, think of the Hudson AK, Marushin M16 series ...
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Post by MadMike

Some more pics of the HobbyFix M4/M16 series (No worries, they are not mine. I found them on the internet):







If someone has additional information or pics, you are welcome! Confidential handling ensured if necessary.
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Post by MadMike

Someone must have seen or even handled one personally, maybe one of our Japanese forum members, maybe in a shop or on a gun show ... ? So what´s it like?
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Post by MadMike

I didn't want to open a new thread and start getting on everybody's nerves, but does anyone know what different AR-15s/M-16s Hobby Fix has made over the years? I have seen pictures of a M16A1 and a XM177E2 (M629), similar to the models Marushin is still offering as kit. And there is a M16A4 with removable carry handle and the M4A1 as latest versions. Any help such as pictures, details, weight, material and production date and numbers made would be highly appreciated.
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Post by lampwick

How are these model guns any more interesting than the MGC CAR15 that I was practically giving away back in the 'good old days'? They look nearly the same and are both full metal.

Post by MadMike

Well the HobbyFix is a very detailed model of the real M16/M4, including markings and internals like trigger group and bolt (I'd say the only thing missing is the firing pin). And it was produced in very small numbers.

The early MGC CAR-15 is a nice model, very solid and heavy, but not as well detailed, especially when it comes to the internals which hardly resemble the real AR-15 mechanism.
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Post by lampwick

Well.. That's me told!! Thanks Markus.

Post by Doc

yep the metal CAR 15 is nice feeling gun but has naff all internally that is even similar to a real one .

Hobby Fix are for the pure collector interested in detail (and having empty wallets )

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Post by Spencerman

Or for the criminally intent on converting it back into a real functioning firearm capable of destroying small houses and countries with single bursts of fully automatic fire, shooting around 900 bullets per second!

Only kidding. Basically, in a nutshell the hobbyfix version model guns are the wet dream of any model gun collector, but they are soooo dear that they generally remain a fantasy for most, except those with loads of money, like Hugh Heffner.
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Post by BRMoore

Spencerman wrote:

into a real functioning firearm capable of destroying small houses and countries with single bursts of fully automatic fire, shooting around 900 bullets per second!

That must be the M4 which takes the 30round mortar mag

Post by MadMike

Well I really tried but can't get those Hobby fix models out of my head. I was wondering which AR-15 versions they were offering over the years. I know that they also offered some high quality gas powered Airsoft weapons at the beginning.

I think the (dummy) AR-15 modelguns they offered are:

M16A1

XM177E2 (11,5 inch barrel)

M16A4 (detachable carryhandle)

M4A1 (detachable carryhandle - 14,5 inch barrel).

Here are some pics from a Yahoo auction. I really love the XM177E2 or M4A1.







Look at this beauty!

So if anyone knows more, has pictures, knows someone whom I could ask, please let me know.
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Post by Mark

Interesting Madmike, that M16 sure looks like the Kokusai "hybrid" modelgun/airsoft M26's. Perhaps Hobby Fix designed and offered them first, then due to some unknown reasons dropped them from production. Then, Kokusai stepped in to offer them.
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Here are some more detail pictures of the HF XM177E2 (Model 629). I found them on the web months ago.