Hudson Desert Eagle

Subject: Hudson Desert Eagle Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:01 pm

Hey all,
Just got a shiny new heavyweight Desert Eagle, but when slide rams the cartridge forward to load the round it sets it off. It also means it fires full auto when you manually load the first round...
Any suggestions folks?
Thanks

Subject: Re: Hudson Desert Eagle Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:38 am

Hi Huw,

First things to check are that the Detonator Pin is located correctly in the chamber, and that the cartridges are loaded correctly.

If the Detonator Pin is slightly too long, it'll cause the cap to ignite as soon as the slide closes. Incorrect cartridge loading can cause the internal firing pin to strike the cap too soon.

Please let us know what you find

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Subject: Hudson desert eagle Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:42 am

Hey Cerwyn,
i think its the detonator pin being too long as I have experimented with the cartridges having the cap and striker further and further away from the front.
Suggestions? Strip it and file the striker down?
Thanks
Huw

Subject: Re: Hudson Desert Eagle Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:07 am

Hi Huw,

Before you start shortening the Detonator Pin, does your Desert Eagle use this cartridge?

https://mp40modelguns.forumotion.net/t2476-hudson-50ae-blow-back-new-pfc

If it does, Hudson used a shorter piston and 0-ring assembly in their design. Check that a previous owner hasn't fitted longer MGC pistons to try improving blowback.
If the cartridge looks in order I'd suggest making another Det.Pin which can be shortened until you achieve perfect firing. Once you remove metal from the original pin you can't put it back again if it's too short

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Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria.
also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.

Subject: Desert eagle Hudson Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:13 am

Hi Cerwyn,
Yes indeed those are the carts I'm using, although as I bought it from den trinity, so I assume they haven't been messed with. Will disassemble it and start experimenting on the Det pin. Will post any updates as I get around to it! Got a wa Shan glock at the same time and it works perfectly although due to a manufacturing error it seems you can't strip it without damaging it!
Thanks!
Huw

Subject: Re: Hudson Desert Eagle Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:03 pm

Hi Huw

As it's a new model then the cartridges should be fine
A loading guide can be found here:

https://mp40modelguns.forumotion.net/t923-loading-hudson-cp-type-cartridges

I don't know how the Det. Pin fits in the barrel, is it screwed into place or a push fit secured by a grub screw
I'd check to make sure it is in place correctly before doing anything else.

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Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria.
also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.

Subject: Re: Hudson Desert Eagle Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:08 pm

BTW, if it's a WaShan Glock G27, this might help...

https://mp40modelguns.forumotion.net/t3673-wa-shan-g27

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Cerwyn

Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria.
also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.

Subject: Hudson desert eagle Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:36 pm

It's a wu Shan g17,
Huw

Subject: Re: Hudson Desert Eagle Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:05 pm

Regarding your Glock G17, it looks like Momocampo encountered a similar problem;

https://mp40modelguns.forumotion.net/t2923-wa-shan-glock-17

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Cerwyn

Hobby collector of Replica model guns and Militaria.
also member of Living History Reenactment Groups.

Subject: desert eagle hudsen Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:50 pm

Hmm... will see if the solution from the g27 works on the g17...
thanks, love this forum! Might be adding a PPK & P220 to the collection soon!
Hopefully there'll be no problems with them!
Huw

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