MUZZLE FLASH

Post by GZ22

Remember that I said there are different grades of styrene - many are solid, so don't get those!

Post by rizzo

I'll try this tonight

Also, earpicks lovely

Also, upon disassembling the uzi, the barrel is kind of interupted by a chimney type thing. Hard to explain... it forces the gas up, along, then down, in effect not allowing sparks to travel, but allowing smoke to get through. It looks like it'll be fairly easy to file out, maybe giving me some sparks from the barrel :O Any thoughts? Shouldn't be illegal to do should it? The barrel still has the conventional 'bar' across it nearer the muzzle.

Post by GZ22

I shouldn't imagine you'd be committing any type of offence, as you're not attempting to modify your gun to fire any type of projectile.

Post by Claymore

Tried this method of mag powder on top of the piston and guys it works GREAT!! it really does, superb muzzle blast and you dont need a hell of a lot of mag powder and of coure the round does not get any dirtier.
only put a few rounds through and did not have time to take vid but i will try to get one done in the next couple of days and post.
I used the mgc beretta m9 by the way as we seemed to come to the conclusion that had the widest barrel for this

Post by shazhib

Claymore,

Sounds great!
Haven't you got any burnt or something around a chamber or inside barrel?
I would love to try that as well, however, bit worry if this may melt some plastics around.

cheers,

Shazhib,

Post by Claymore

Yes you do get a greyish coating inside the barrel (like dust) easily cleaned off and i dont think it will build up or cause a problem. it adds no more power to the round so no worries that the gun will break any faster and no it does not seem to burn or melt the barrel at all but i have only put a few rounds through, it in the next few days i will put more and try a few different models but i really dont think there is any need to worry about using this stuff.
Trouble is the place i got my powder from seems to have gone so not sure where i will get my next supply from

Post by rizzo

claymore wrote:

I used the mgc beretta m9 by the way as we seemed to come to the conclusion that had the widest barrel for this

Really? Mine is quite constricted... MGC .45 has widest in my collection

Post by GZ22

The grey substance is the residue from the cap mixed with the magnesium oxide, The barrel should be fine. I'm glad to hear that it works - I thought it would be good!

Post by Claymore

rizzo, i think it was thought that taking the det pin into consideration as the 45 is pretty thick that the 9mm might be a little better to let the blast through, of course it may make no difference at all.
as i say i will try it in a few models and see if it does

Post by shazhib

GZ22,

Please let this modelgun guy know actually there is another Japanese member in the forum, don't hesitate to speak out. I sense sometime we are bit shy to post a comment in a different language having worry too much about the grammer.

I do feel it was one of my best decision to join this forum and do enjoy get to know the people outside the country and share the same interest.

I think the folks in my country should speak out more and share information or tips like this with many others.

I don't know about his English level, but you can refer him and tell him, he can use me as a "spokesman" if he has something he want to post, but not confident enough to post a comment due to a language.

Anyway, good job having contact with this guy.

ciao,

Shazhib

Post by Mark

Sounds like a great idea Shazhib!

Yes, personally, I think that there are lots of modelgun people in Japan that are worried that their English isn't good enough for the forums. That shouldn't be a reason not to share their hobby and their experiences with us. As far as "proper" English grammar is concerned, we rarely use it ourselves!

There is so much that we can learn from your countrymen about your unique to Japan hobby. But, we can't learn it if its not on the internet....
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Post by GZ22

Guys.

I already invietd him to join previously, but I have just let him know again that we would very much like him to join, and I advised him that we have another Japanese member here too.

His English is pretty OK, as he uses translation software.

He seems like a nice guy, so I think he'll accept our offer to join.

Regards,

GZ

Hiya Claymore!

At last then eh? Some decent flash! Did you use Mg from a fire starter block and that Styrene exactly as GZ's photo or was it the fine powder?

I'm determined to get my MP40 and Grease Gun flashing and I'm certain the barrels are short and wide enough to do it.

There are a couple of camping shops in Town that might sell the Blocks. I'll let you know if they do and I'll send you some if you need some.

Any ideas on where to find that styrene? I don't plan on buying any electrical goods like TV's or DVD players in the near future!

Cerwyn
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Post by GZ22

Cerwyn - you could try using the white, thin 'underlay' that you can get for laminate flooring. That should do the job.

See my post in the muzzle fash...again thread for the mechanics behind why this method works.

Thanks GZ!

Looks like we're finally getting somewhere at last!
I would be chuffed to get a video sorted this weekend of either my MP40 or M3A1 Grease Gun burst firing a mag'full with decent flash to get on here!
Claymore's videos of his semi auto pistols looked superb so here's hoping!

Cerwyn
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Post by radback

Hi,

I want to use modelgun in short movie, and I would like to know if there is a (safe) way to make a nice muzzle flash.


On a Japanese website, I saw a video with a shotgun with a huge muzzle flash I read (with a translator) the cap was modified.
Do you know how?
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Post by Mark

Radback,

The trick is to get the Magnesium fire starter blocks and shave, sand or file some off of the block (not much is required!) and place this into the cartridge with the cap.

This can be tricky, as the Magnesium powder has to be fairly fine to work and give a good spark and not "get in the way" of the "detonator" (firing pin)

This, if done properly will give you the flash that you desire.

Post by xs

hi Im japan modelgunfan
look my muzzle flash movie
Let's shoot gaily.

http://jp.y42.briefcase.yahoo.co.jp/bc/zaku062002/lst?&.dir=/%a5%de%a5%a4%a5%c9%a5%ad%a5%e5%a5%e1%a5%f3%a5%c8&.src=bc&.view=l&.last=1

MGC GM5 and MGC M586 MOVIE

Post by John

Hi,

Very good shot with sound.
However, we cannot do the same in Hong Kong as cap is illegal to sell and own in Hong Kong even the powder is so little on the cap. We can only move the gun parts "by hand".

All new model guns sold in Hong Kong do not carry cap.

Post by radback

Hi XS!

Very Impressive! (especialy picture SET_6)
This is what I'm looking for. (maybe with less sparks and more flame if it's possible)

I would like to contact you but you didn't register.
If you register, could you send me a PM or send me a mail at:
radback@hotmail.com

Thanks!
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Post by XS

UPdate 12/3 modelgun mazzle picture etc
http://briefcase.yahoo.co.jp/zaku062002

Post by radback

Nice pics and nice collection!

It is very interesting to see front pictures of guns, because it's usually difficult to know wich gun have the full empty chambers (for revolver) and it'as interesting to, to see how the barrel looks in front side.
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Post by John

Hi XS,

In your SANY0016, I think it is Marushin M586. There are 2 cylinders. I think the detached one is the original Marushin's. But the one attached to the revolver does not have the blocking metal plate inside the cylinder. It looks like a real gun's cylinder (with the blocking metal plate) I wish to know where do you find this cylinder or how do you make this up.
Thanks.

Post by radback

Look at this muzzle flash



Maybe a little to big

I don't know if the guy use magnesium or else, but for sure he puts a lot of it inside the gun
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Shotgun wanted

Post by Mark

COOL! That is alot of Magnsium! I think that they need to wear sun glasses when they fire loads like that!

WOW, if I had known that my R31 shotgun could be used in that way, I would have kept it!