Mac 10 Blank Firer

Just spotted this on Milweb - never heard of Section Five Media before but it looks a lovely piece, though at £2500 it almost equals the value of my current collection of GBB's and BF's. I'd love a full auto blank gun, but the cost of them really does preclude it and I'm not entirely convinced it would offer anything over and above a Modelgun or GBB in collectors terms - for my approach anyway : http://www.milweb.net/webvert/a2391

blimey, hes hoping

philb wrote:

blimey, hes hoping

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks it's a staggering ask - the Thompsons that are around of course usually fetch that figure and fair enough and as much as I love Gordon Ingram's designs they are somewhat crude in comparison..

I saw these at the Motorcycle Museum International when they first came out over 10 years ago. They were around £700 then I think.

Not sure if its one of the notorious " Cotswold arms Ingrams " but either way these have little in common with our pot metal copies . It is made of steel and has more in common with RS than replicas - hence the price . It appears to vent sideways towards the end of the barrel hence a working suppressor . For sure its a nice piece but the price is too high . He also has my old Sig Sauer P225 Geco for sale ( £650 - ouch ) and THIS : http://www.milweb.net/classifieds/view_large.php?ad=90020&cat=57 Barrett M 82 A1 ..............awesome !

phobus wrote:

Not sure if its one of the notorious " Cotswold arms  Ingrams " but either way these have little in common with our pot metal copies . It is made of steel and has more in common with RS than replicas - hence the price . It appears to vent sideways towards the end of the barrel hence a working suppressor . For sure its a nice piece but the price is too high . He also has my old Sig Sauer P225 Geco for sale ( £650 - ouch )  and THIS : http://www.milweb.net/classifieds/view_large.php?ad=90020&cat=57  Barrett M 82 A1  ..............awesome !

Hi mate - of course, and I don't think anyone would disagree with what you say. I don't think it's a Cotswold Arms version either, unless Section Five Media has rebranded them....?? Whatever happened to Cotswold Arms BTW - I always fancied one of their Stens ..!? 😉

The point I was essentially making was that this is a way over priced BF, regardless of it's rarity and operating proclivities and pound for pound, say, for example  a steel kitted KWA at around 300 quid (if you can find one) is way better value and probably just as much fun... G&P of course ceased making that receiver kit because it was found to be made of ' near weapons grade steel'...and far too realistic....

muzzleflash wrote:

phobus wrote:

Not sure if its one of the notorious " Cotswold arms  Ingrams " but either way these have little in common with our pot metal copies . It is made of steel and has more in common with RS than replicas - hence the price . It appears to vent sideways towards the end of the barrel hence a working suppressor . For sure its a nice piece but the price is too high . He also has my old Sig Sauer P225 Geco for sale ( £650 - ouch )  and THIS : http://www.milweb.net/classifieds/view_large.php?ad=90020&cat=57  Barrett M 82 A1  ..............awesome !

Hi mate - of course, and I don't think anyone would disagree with what you say. I don't think it's a Cotswold Arms version either, unless Section Five Media has rebranded them....?? Whatever happened to Cotswold Arms BTW - I always fancied one of their Stens ..!?

The point I was essentially making was that this is a way over priced BF, regardless of it's rarity and operating proclivities and pound for pound, say, for example  a steel kitted KWA at around 300 quid (if you can find one) is way better value and probably just as much fun... G&P of course ceased making that receiver kit because it was found to be made of ' near weapons grade steel'...and far too realistic....

I owned a Cotwold Arms MAC10 and it was £700 with an additional suppressor. Jammed constantly and he advised only loading 10-15 rounds at a time. Sold it after a while. He said at the time he was working on an M16 and I badgered him for ages but it never happened.

I also own a Geco P225 which I still have which works fine except years ago I lost the little spring that controls the decocking lever when I was stripping it and wish I could get a replacement as it still works but is loose/floppy now

Nice piece the Geco I had one : slight annoyance I remember that the slide did not have full travel , looked weird when locked back . Maybe its just me being too anal . lol

On the subject of Ingram Mac 10 been offered a factory inert one which is basically exactly like old spec deact but legal as it never was a real gun ( so cannot be deactivated )

I shall attempt to negotiate the dark arts of picture attachment lol - no promises guys I am a technophobe !!

I don,t know for sure about the Mac 10 .

Dude wants £950 for it do you think I should try a cheeky offer ??

Carl

Hi Carl, hope you're well mate. Did you buy the Mac in the end or not?? Looks good, but a bit pricey idve said. Never heard of a 'factory inert' one before!?! I'd be a little wary of the convertibility of such if I'm brutally honest.

Hi Mate

I did indeed buy it cheeky bid £800 did it

Its very nice too .

The factory inerts do exist perhaps other members may have heard of them ? For shows / displays etc when promoting a new model in countries where " real steel " would be regarded very suspiciously .

Some years back I was offered a Glock 26 same spec and about the same price which I very nearly bought .

Cheers

Carl

Nice one Carl. All you need now is a dummy silencer to complete the look.

These aren't made of steel then presumably???

Regarding silencers as per Lampwick's suggestion - perhaps an Airsoft one would fit??

"These aren't made of steel then presumably???"

For £800 they'd better be!!!

I agree, lol

I know the price is a bit ridiculous but if you look at what deacts go for then you will understand . Check out the likes of d&b militaria and see what smgs / ARs go for .
That is for an entirely welded up paperweight btw .
You can easy pay £1500 for a 9mm MP5 which is totally butchered . Cannot cock , strip , dry fire . Mag is butchered and slotted . Mag well is pinned .
My Mac 10 does everything and is real .

I'm not a deac fan, so wouldn't know. I'll take your word on the price of course as someone who would've paid 2k for the BF Mac in the original thread.

I've fairly recently paid £1600 for a BF Sten and mp40. It's an expensive hobby

Sure is .
There is a lovely Sten mk3 blank in the free ads ( £1100 ) very tempted I have a thing for Stens .
I know they are ugly plumbing equipment guns but damn they are nice .
I think I would be satisfied with a Hudson but they hardly ever come up now . Even MG Props are out and have been for ages .
Carl

Gawd no, don't buy a Hudson. They're made of rice paper equivalent! Mine fell over and snapped the barrel - absolute trash if you ask me (sorry I know that won't make me any friends on here).

That mk3 Sten on Gunstar is a peach, I think it's a PDH Enterprises one which they made a batch of 10 years back.

I wish we had the PFCs in the U.S. that you guys in the U.k. do. Id have bought at any of the priced you guy have quoted.

I wish we had the PFCs and blank fires in the U.S. that you guys in the U.k. do. Id have bought at any of the priced you guy have quoted. Ebay is the only established venu to buy Pfcs and there are a very limited amout of designs of blank guns available

Spottsaustin213 wrote:

I wish we had the PFCs and blank fires in the U.S.  that you guys in the U.k. do. Id have bought at any of the priced you guy have quoted. Ebay is the only established venu to buy Pfcs and there are a very limited amout of designs of blank guns available

I own a few from these guys and they work GREAT!:

https://indianapolisordnance.com/Full-Auto-Blank-Firing-Replicas

I also own BFONG's from several other vendors.

I live in the US, but sometimes work in the UK.
I bought the MP38 off Gunstar and rented the rest of the guns from Bapty & Co.

My Ukranian MP38 firing at 1:16 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODmJXjcRzG0

Wow , those are awsome. Thank you so much. Lol ,there goes my savings. Lol

This is now up on Gunstar for £5000...yap!!